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Beck's Twisted Take on the Mosque
www.joytiz.com ^ | 5/26/10 | Joy Tiz

Posted on 05/26/2010 7:33:01 AM PDT by jazminerose

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To: jazminerose
For all those agreeing with Beck on this one, let me ask you this.

If the sky scrapper replacing the World Trade Center places a large Islamic Crescent Moon on top, would you object? It's a public building so I don't see anything that would stop them from doing so if the owner wanted. I ask again would you have a problem with it? If so then what is the difference between that objection and the one we have against this mosque across the street?

141 posted on 05/26/2010 3:38:47 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (Palin will see the Potomac from Her House)
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To: NavyCanDo

The world trade center is not a private building. It’s owned by the city.


142 posted on 05/26/2010 4:38:10 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: r9etb
"Not really. I am differentiating between Islamists, traditional Islamic groups, and liberal Muslims."

Oh, is that so? Hard to tell.

"Communism is not evil, only a few groups are.... Sorry, doesn't work. Normative Islam believes in subjugating the world."

Ah, I see. You were lying before.

No, you just don't get it.Islamists believe in using terrorism (razziahs) and war (Jihad) to conquer the world now. Mainstream Islam sees these as options, but chooses Da'wa and immigration on the whole. Bolshevik and Mensheviks are all communists. And before calling be racist or somesuch, show me where I am wrong.

143 posted on 05/26/2010 11:28:35 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: r9etb
Congratulations to them. And yet you talk as you do .... perhaps they would slug you.
Not at all. Until the Holocaust and post-war communist antisemitism, my father's parents were well assimilated into Polish society. They spoke Polish, not Yiddish in public and at home. My paternal grandfather and his brother volunteered to fight with the new Polish army against the Soviets in 1919 to 1921. They understood both assimilation and the need to fight evil.

My maternal grandparents moved to Sweden. My grandfather faced Swedish antisemitism straight on until he was incapacitated by lung cancer. My grandparents spent the last decades of their lives in Malmo, which quickly became Malmostan. I suggest you look up what Muslim immigrants have done to Malmo.
The Jewish cemetary has been repeatedly desecrated and including two attempts of arson on chapel. Taxi drivers refuse to pick people up their, but Muslim children throw stones at mourners. The Synagogue must be privately guarded because the police, egged on by the leftist administration, refuse to protect Jews. Jewish shops are vandalized or destroyed to be replaced by Muslim ones. And muslim men rove in rape gangs targetting any women they find not modestly dressed in many areas.

The late James Burnham had a saying, "who says A, must say B." It means that if a person says A, the logic of his position requires him to say B as well. This applies to you.
In so far as B does not follow A, syllogism fail. Go take Symbolic Logic and get back to me.

You have called for Islam, as a religion, to be made illegal. Well, then ... you have to tell us what you suggest should happen when Muslims (quite justifiably) refuse to accept your decree.
When we stop immigration and close mosques that refuse to denounce world-wide sharia, they will leave of their own accord.

144 posted on 05/26/2010 11:41:15 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
I can, however, read the Constitution.

That's the problem with Ron Paul and his lemmings; they only read the Constitution. As they sit back and watch 50 MILLION unborn babies MURDERED in womb, they say "Oh well, it's a matter of states rights." As drag queens and Dykes on Bikes continue to attempt to destroy one of America's most important institutions, that of marriage, you sit back and say "Let the states decide who and what should marry."

Ever hear this one?: "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams. What does that mean to you? Do you have a game plan on how to make America a "moral and religious people" once again? WAIT! That isn't possible for Ron Paul who is a "lifetime member of the Libertarian Party" and who doesn't think "homosexuality is a sin" (or as he told John Lofton during an interview "I don't see it in such simplistic terms."). Do you think the Founding Fathers would have allowed a bunch of Middle Eastern savages to build a temple next to an area where a holocaust of American citizens occurred? We were founded as a nation whose citizens believed in God (NOT Allah), and our CHARTER, The Declaration of Independence proves it. The Declaration makes it very clear that we are a nation under God's laws. Therefore all laws of our country should be consistent with the law of God or they violate our national charter. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin. "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." Samuel Adams.
Do yourself and your country a favor, rid yourself of the disease that Ron Paul and his Libertarian Party followers have, the disease that doesn't allow you to have a lick of good ole common sense.

145 posted on 05/27/2010 7:22:10 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

I am sorry, but I am not a Ron Paul supporter.

I am pro-life.

I happen to have, unlike you, a brain who can see the next move in things. Ban a mosque, a chuch is next.


146 posted on 06/01/2010 9:54:10 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

You should be proud that you’re not a Ron Paul supporter (even though he claims to be pro-life).

Regarding your concern about banning Christian churches if we don’t allow the Mooselems to build a urinal next to Ground Zero.

http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

(Use that brain of yours and figure out the threat involved).


147 posted on 06/02/2010 6:37:28 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

Yes, I am aware the muslims are like you and afraid of a competing relgion’s place of worship.

It is evidence of the insecurity muslims have in their faith.


148 posted on 06/02/2010 7:53:52 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Yes, I am aware the muslims are like you and afraid of a competing relgion’s place of worship.

I guess you don't know your religons well TTRuffian (especially Christianity). While Islam MURDERS in the name of Allah, Christians "redeem" in the name of Jesus. How does a religion that bases it's doctrine on redemption "compete" with that of one that uses mass murder as part of their doctrine?

149 posted on 06/02/2010 8:47:58 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

I do know my Christianity well, and I am well aware of the evils of Islam.

Unlike you, however, I am not afraid, however, to compete with Islam in the marketplace of ideas, such that I demand that mosque be shuttered.

The truth will out, and Islam defeated. But not by silly censors.


150 posted on 06/02/2010 1:27:36 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

While I admire the beliefs of Christians, I wouldn’t go to battle along side them. They’re hesitant to do what needs to be done, thinking that they can “save” evil instead of destroying it.

You do your job TTRuffian: “save” 1.2 billion Muslims; I’ll do mine: make sure they don’t destroy America and Christianity.


151 posted on 06/03/2010 7:12:27 AM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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