Skip to comments.Experts say: George Washington's honesty a sign of stupidity
Posted on 05/27/2010 9:45:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It is no secret that many of us who reject Obama's neo-communist agenda have turned to the Founding Fathers for guidance; when you think your country's founding principles are under attack, it's natural to re-acquaint yourself with the writings of the extraordinary group of men who wrote our founding documents.
When we examine this genius cluster, George Washington is perhaps the best loved. Last week Glenn Beck recommended the four-year old, 1208-page tome, George Washington's Sacred Fire, which discusses pop culture fave topics like the religious beliefs of our first President. The book shot to number one on Amazon's bestseller list. It has recently been bumped to #2 by an R-rated Swedish detective series.
It was therefore understandable that a Boston Globe editorial felt the need to compare Washington and Jefferson unfavorably to...Bill Clinton.
George Washington's parents no doubt took pride in his childhood honesty, but therein may lie the reason he was among the least intellectual of the Founding Fathers. A Canadian study last week declared that children who lie are actually showing their mental acuity and creativity. "Parents should not be alarmed if their child tells a fib,'' Kang Lee, director of the Institute of Child Study at the University of Toronto, told the Telegraph of London. In fact, children who are making things up at age 2 have fast-developing brains, which portend greater intellectual achievements. Thomas Jefferson, whose genius sometimes led him down a twisty path around the truth, may have been an example. So might his mentally agile successor, William Jefferson Clinton. As for Washington - perhaps there's a new explanation for why he confessed, in the great Parson Weems legend, to chopping down the cherry tree: Maybe young George just couldn't come up with a good enough cover story.
Yeah, every time I tried to show my imagination and mental acuity, my parents whooped me.
I was very stupid after a while.
In children, the ability to lie may show mental acuity.
In adults, it simply shows their character.
Working hard and being productive is for suckas!
Honesty = Stupidity.
In other liberal, counterculture news:
The sky is green.
Up is down.
Black is white.
And the perennial favorite: Bad is good, while good is bad.
So liars are the most intelligent people now. It never ends with these libs. They are just trying to make themselves look intelligent because thatâs all they do... lie.
Someone remind me...who won the Revolutionary War?
People of good moral standing have no reason to lie.
If there is any consistent belief between all the liberals, it is that they consider themselves to be the smarter people.
The Editor of the Boston Globe needs a “blanket party” thrown is his honor. What a incorrigible cadre of jackasses these “experts” truly are. If this is not Orwellian, then nothing is.
When I look at my paystub and add things up, they may have a point. Maybe not stupid, exactly, but certainly a chump.
Funny how such a “stupid” guy was able to pull together a bunch of farmers and defeat the mighty British army.
Actually telling the truth is easy.
You don’t have to remember the last lie you told.
All of these radical left, self-described "intellectuals" think they're 'mentally superior' to the rest of the population...
The Center for Public Intellectuals & The University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC)
April 19th-20th, 2002, Conference
[Participants include: William/Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Sen Barack Obama]
April 19th-20th, 2002
Chicago Illini Union
828 S. Wolcott
This conference is part of the Center's mission of helping to create a more engaged civil society, working towards social change, fostering coalitions between theorists and activists, and combating anti-intellectualism in contemporary culture. It will be both a celebration of ideas and a rigorous examination of the roles and responsibilities that intellectuals play in society.
I. Why Do Ideas Matter? (a keynote panel)
We introduce the meta theme of the conference by hearing success stories from diverse voices discussing their experiences intervening intellectually.
Timuel Black, Chicago activist; Prof. Emeritus, City Colleges of Chicago
Lonnie Bunch, President, Chicago Historical Society
Bernardine Dohrn, Northwestern University Law School, Children and Family Justice Center
Gerald Graff, UIC, College of Liberal Arts & Sciences
Richard Rorty, Stanford University, Philosophy
III. Lunch and Public Encounters
Alternative breakout tours led by Chicago activists. Tours of Bronzeville and other communities, and visits to organizations that are working on partnering theorists with activists.
IV. Intellectuals in Times of Crisis
Experiences and applications of intellectual work in urgent situations.
William Ayers, UIC, College of Education; author of Fugitive Days
Douglass Cassel, Northwestern University, Center for International Human Rights
Cathy Cohen, University of Chicago, Political Science
Salim Muwakkil, Chicago Tribune; In These Times
Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator
Barbara Ransby, UIC, African-American Studies (moderator)
The Center for Public Intellectuals
University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC):
"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victims stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn ("intellectual"), referring to the Manson murders
Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers ("intellectual") (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:
Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that ["intellectual"] Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obamas circle: The same old America-hating Left
How wrong can anyone be? What about character? It was plain to see Bill Clinton had no true character; truth, loyalty, honesty, steadfastness, bravery,love of God, right and wrong, morals, ... He demonstrated daily all is fair in love and war, if you can get away with it.
God help America, cast out the ones that desire to bring America down to a third world nation and make themselves rich, and supreme over the people, in the name of Jesus I pray, amen.
Maybe the cherry tree legend was a stretch, but honesty had great value back 200 years ago. It was a small world so everyone knew your reputation. You could be challenged to a duel over a false word.
George Washington didn't have a friendly media running interference for him and making up excuses. The truth is easier to to recall than lies delivered on a teleprompter.
“I didn’t realize that Clinton was President at age 2.”
Turn it around. I believe the author (albeit not intentionally) is implying that Clinton behaved like a 2 year old in office. Given that the “terrible twos” often entail narcissism, impatience and little regard for the needs/feelings of others, I would say that’s not far from the mark.
>> A Canadian study last week declared that children who lie are actually showing their mental acuity and creativity.
Do studies lie?
How intelligent must a liar be to avoid being caught in a lie?
I guess being a liar makes Obama a genius?
I think it is very fitting to compare a 2 year old to bill clinton to show how much MORE mature and responsible the 2 year old was.
That aside, the idea that lying shows intelligence and that honesty is for saps is right out of the Nietzche playbook and subsequently the hitler playbook as he admired Nietzche so much and thought such things as honesty, integrity, compassion, forgiveness, and love were for weaklings. This is why Hitler hated Christ.
We are truly seeing aa resurgence of Nazi thinking these days.
George Washington was certainly capable of telling a lie and coming up with imaginative stories to further his cause. He was one the most effective spymasters in our history.
I bet the author’s a really smart guy. Which means you can’t believe a damn thing he says.
Another new low.
Washington is the model of what a stong man should be. Same can’t be said for Clinton or Obama.
But at least they are mentally agile.
These "experts" must not be married. (The Clintons' excluded. I think they had an open marriage. Hillery knew what to expect and she was was fine with it all if she didn't get dragged down.)
Second, young George would have been sent to England for his education as his two older half-brothers had been, had his father not died when the lad was 10 years old. He then stayed at the Ferry Farm (across the Rapahannock from Fredericksburg, VA) with his mother who then ran the late Augustine's business (mines, a foundry, but mainly farms). However, he was taught by a traveling Jesuit priest in F'burg and learnt his lessons well.
At the time, much land had to be surveyed and thus surveyors were an important profession (think of it as equal to a software engineer of today). Washington passed the certification at the age of 16, and was examined at the College of William and Mary.
Washington was not a great orator, as it has been said he was very self-conscious about the sorry state of his teeth. He was an excellent writer, as can be seen through the volumes of his papers that today exist.
Aside from being a surveyor, he was a skilled draftsman and drew up the first plan for Alexandria, VA. He was extremely creative and strategic in fighting the battles of the RevWar, and ran a brilliant and large spy ring throught the war.
And as a gentleman farmer (and he got down in the dirt, too) he FAR surpassed Jefferson; Washington was one of the very first to rotate crops and decrease his reliance on tobacco. He was a bright businessman and built a still and fished the rivers for profit.
Finally, do the geniuses in Boston believe that their homeboy bright star John Adams would have picked anyone slow-witted and/or ignorant to head up the Continental Army? These editorialists are disgusting leftist revisionists and beyond contempt.
Your OBdt. Svt.
Maybe next they will call Washington a fool for not declaring himself King when other people wanted him to become one after the revolutionary war.
Very well said.
So, alcoholics and druggies (who are notoriously chronic liars either to get their next jolt, or to cover up their cheating, stealing, and previous lies in order to to get their previous jolts) must be super-geniuses.
Same go for pedophiles?
And illegal Aliens, too?
Only dim-bulbs follow rules, obey laws, and are honest.
BoGlo is owned lock-stock-and-barrel by New York Times Company.
kill unborn babies=good
Just the new universally accepted code of ethics.
The broader question from the point of view of historiography is, why speculate when you can actually find out? The answer, I'm afraid, is that speculation can support The Narrative where the evidence does not. That isn't pretty.
Well, this part is more or less true. TJ was much inferior to Washington in character. But then most people then and now are.
Pure intelligence and leadership are two entirely different things.
We have developed a cult of intelligence in the US. It has become a strange form of royalty.” We are intelligent, so we should be able to run the country in a near-dictatorship.”
When you listen to them talk about it, it sounds like, “The people who oppose us are ignorant and don’t even know that what we are doing is in their best interest.”
Washington, on the other hand, represents the best American traditions of leadership. He lead the army to victory, then went home. He was president, then refused to be made king or lifetime leader. Even though Washington clearly knew that there were areas where the nation could be improved, he willingly accepted the idea that he was not in king, just a good steward of his nation’s future.
I guess in liberal lalla land truth if a sign of stupidity? What silly pathetic beings they all are.
It’s no wonder they disapprove of Scouting:
A Scout is:
* and Reverent.
You might as well just say it straight out: By liberal standards, a Scout is stupid. All my kids meet this “stupid” standard, and I’m proud of having raised such dumb children.
Over the years I've found that most "experts" usually aren't, and those that purport to be "experts", usually are like children seeking attention.
Reminds me of an interview Tom Brokaw done with an 'expert' on a certain disease. Brokaw said "Very little is known about this disease but we have Dr. _____ , an expert on this illness to tell us about it."
If very little is known then how can anyone be an 'expert'?
Excellent question. If the MSM puts someone up as an 'expert', that means they probably know less than the average guy on the street, and if it's for some lib cause, they won't let facts stand in their way.
Right. This guy reminds me of my BIL. He says spenders are more capable with money than savers are, because they know many things to do with money, whereas savers only know how to do one thing with money-save it.
Pearls of wisdom from the guy who’s been mooching off his family and friends for the last 35 years and has never managed to hold a job.
The fable that Bill Clinton was a smart man is absolutely false:
1. He married Hillary
2. He pick Al Gore as his VP.
3. He was the most powerful man in the world and could not get a BJ in the oval office without the whole world finding out about it.
4. Add your own reasons here.
Thanks Pharmboy! On a related note, the whiny little bitch John "One Term" Adams sniped and snarked about Washington behind his back.
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I think you can say he is "brilliant", because he can pool the wool over them. We on the other side have seen through him right from the beginning and seen right away that is is nothing but an empty suit who likes to talk a lot, without saying anything