Skip to comments.South Korea deploys troops in border zone to ‘punish’ North
Posted on 05/27/2010 5:05:10 PM PDT by jhpigott
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I had a friend from college who served two years in Korea at the DMZ in the early 1980’s. He told me that his time there consisted of hours of sheer boredom mixed in with some moments of absolute terror. According to him, there were firefights with the North that were never reported in the press.
Heres an idea: We pull our troops out and use the saved money to cut some of the deficit. They defend themselves. Any of our advanced weapons they need they can buy from us for cold, hard cash.
Or would that be construed as an act of war from SK?
Whichever side China tells him to back. Clueless, gutless, capitulating pigs like 0 are very dangerous. They tend to continually cave and then snap and over react.
Yes i know it’s tough being the president.
I know that cause he told me 97 times in between his deseved vacations.
Somebdy feerin ronery.
CHANGE... is comin’ to the Korean peninsula.
Blinked?! Hell he's hiding his face behind his hands like a teenage girl at a horror movie.
You nailed it. It disgusts me that the obamanation has probably given orders that will prevent our troops from aggressively defending even themselves.
The real players right now are North Korea, South Korea, China, and Japan.
If/when we see Japan move to a war footing, then it’s on.
China is the wildcard. They don’t want a war, but they can’t be seen as weak against South Korea and Japan. (If the US had real leadership, they could take cover under the threat of effective US action, but we don’t so they can’t.)
China’s only out is a covert pre-emptive decapitation of the Nork leadership, which they will then blams on someone else. But only diplomatically.
Kim Jong Ill knows this, hence the deployment of Nork troops and missiles on the border with China.
This is going to get bad.
I don't have strong feelings whether the current SK mobilization orchestration will either heighten OR lessen current tensions.
OK I conceed that it will instead *marginally* escalate the level of REAL underlying tensions. It will, however substantially agitate the concerns of young people, Americans, and people generally unfamiliar with North Kore --sure.
Ford makes cars, Oompa Loompahs make chocolate, and L'il Kim makes....anxiety. He clocks in, makes others scared, and gets PAID for that.
Whadda we see here? Kim with his lunch pail, strolling to work --have no doubt, WE WILL PAY HIM. If you do doubt it, HE DOES NOT.
The horrifying truth is that Kim knows our the SK/USA gov'ts BETTER than WE know them.
Bailouts are more in fashion now than ever, and Kim is the consumate BailMeOuter, strolling in high fashion.
CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS = NEWSWORTHY, BUT NO SUSTAINED WAR.
The sick feeling dawning on you is the TRUTH.
I never liked Change.....
The Chinese are testing Obama’s weak points to see where the weak points are..... the Chinese can rein Kim Gone Ill in if they wanted to, besides, they got a lot to lose in a all out war with us....
70% of NK GDP goes to their military.
Good points. At the end of the day, he is just looking for a handhout. Why not? He always got them in the past through brinksmanship. Plus he has fully sized up Obama and he knows the US has the weakest president in its 240 year history, so why not shake us down and jack us around to get the goodies?
“Do you have any ideal how much destruction can be done,
flying 4 fighter jets, 1 mile apart, line abreast, at mach 1.5 or better, when crossing the border.”
I spent some time there at Kunsan which had 2 F16 squadrons. Once saw about 34 F16s on the runway lined up four abreast and took off in pairs. They did a mock airbase attack dropping flares. It was awe inspiring.
With that in mind we were once warned the NKs were massed at the border and to expect 75% causalities. They have extensive bio and chem weapons and the scuds to deliver it.
“The brainiacs in NK obviously have some type of diabolical plan cooked up.”
Yes, stir things up and hopefully get some money from the UN. There are probably also internal power struggles for who is going to replace Chia head.
That idea has a lot of merit! I like it.
I honestly think the Kim Gone Soon has lost it, and he’s no longer even marginally under China’s control. He actually believes his own propaganda (kind of like the obamanation).
He is quickly becoming as much of a problem for China as he is for South Korea. That is an insane mistake. A literally insane mistake.
When I was there it was fairly calm for the most part. One of the SK guards fell asleep at the ammo dump and was caught by his Lt. Didn’t even wake him up, just shot him right there.
I’d imagine things are a bit more tense now.
Kunsan AB ROK, June 88 thru July 89, I've been there and done that.
I've worked "elephant walks" and much, much more interesting real-world incidents.
Know you this, under Reagan, and Bush (both copies), whatever NPRK was capable of,
Kunsan could tripple and keep up the flow for 90 days non-stop.
Nukes are just a C-141 or C-17 ride away.
But under the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF, who knows what HELL that FACSIST will put them thru.
“The Chicomms have already taken the measure of the man and found him wanting. “
The bowing to them probably didn’t help.
War will break out.
I would thinkthe ROK is calling up reserves. Drafting more men now is doubtful. How long to effectively train a new cohort?
When a man focused EXCLUSIVELY on substance meets a man focused EXCLUSIVELY on imagery, a money transfer occurs:
The amount is secret for a long time but much later is revaled to have been VERRRRRY LARGE.
Thanks for your observations. I’ve always been under the impression that the thousands of artillery tubes in the North which are aimed at Seoul - only 35 miles away - would wreak incredible death and destruction. And, that’s not counting the WMD potential as noted by many others. So, is the SoKor govt willing to accept horrific casualties and devastation of its capitol and major population center? From far away, my impression is that they’re caught it in a huge trap and Lil Kim can really poke and provoke to his heart’s content. All the incredible weaponry that we and the SoKors have would certainly lead to eventual victory in an all-out shooting war. But, is anyone there making the calculation that this truly pyrrhic victory would be worth the incredible cost?
I would be most interested in our Asian Freepers’ take on this incredibly dangerous predicament.
“Nukes are just a C-141 or C-17 ride away. “
Not even that far.
My first Friday night there was during Team Spirit and they dropped 400 paratroopers on base to act as aggressors.
Hopefully they will be able to see when the missles are being loaded. If they don’t find out until launch they’ll have 20-30 minutes at most.
“You need to dress up your FR homepage. “
I kinda like being anonymous.
This is not good, it’s the way war starts.
One thing we do know, once it starts, no telling
where it will end.
YEah, pre-emptive decapitations are kind of a pipe dream. Like the people before Iraq who would say, why send an army when one bullet will do the trick. Well, the problem is getting him in your sights, and then knowing whether it’s the real Kim standing up or a doppelganger. These dictators don’t get where they are by standing around where somebody can get a shot at him. So, you have to buy off the palace guard. Certainly possible, but maybe not so easy.
“So, is the SoKor govt willing to accept horrific casualties and devastation of its capitol and major population center? “
Willing? Not sure that really enters into the picture. They are pretty much resigned that the North is psycho and Chia is planning to go out in a blaze of glory.
I have close contacts there and they have basically resigned themselves that sooner or later there will be a war. A war with massive casualties.
After that we can have a party, shred the Constitution, and piss on the rest of our allies. Sounds like a plan to me. A bad one, but a plan nonetheless...
In a world where we have an apologist in chief squatting the oval office - do we really need short sighted isolationists defeding the apologizer?
Can we add "taking a slow boat from Australia to Indonesia and permanently staying at home there"?
“According to him, there were firefights with the North that were never reported in the press.”
Happens quite frequently.
If they are there for the military there is a good chance they will be evacuated before the hostilities start, unless he’s active duty of course. Probably to Japan.
I’m very familar with Kim’s game of blackmail . . . and he may very well get what he is looking for in the end - more aid. But what I don’t think he bargained for this go around is that Pres Lee is pushing back harder than past SK administrations. That doesn’t mean SK won’t eventually roll over for Kim, but in the meantime things are escalating and all it takes is for one local commander on either side of the border to do something stupid . . . and things will sprial out of control
Good points. One big difference, though: North Korea is a client-state of China. You can be they have the Norks thoroughly infiltrated...
Well said. The man is a megalomaniac, along with a few other psychological disorders. This is well known among psychologists who study leaders like Kim-Jong. The many hypotheses made by freepers can be thrown out the window. There are no good equations to fit a megalomaniac that is not only dying physically, but politically as well. My guess is that China, South Korea, Japan and the United States all have sweaty palms at this point.
he was in the military and now works for the military as a civilian on the planes.
I worry about them being there.
It disgusts me that the obamanation has probably given orders that will prevent our troops from aggressively defending even themselves.
I think some Generals and Admirals will tell 0bama to kiss their asses.
I wonder which side our administration will back.
This *Regime* will back whoever seems to be winning.
70% of NK GDP goes to their military.
And about 25% of the remaining 30% goes to the evil Kim.