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To: Hacklehead
It was a dumb-azz play. Overly militaristic,

"Overly"? Either it's a military operation or a police operation or a neighborhood welcoming committee.

no hope of surprise,

You're flying in over the sea, what surprise could there be? A submarine launched operation? That would require surfacing of the sub, inflating boats, loading boats, motoring over. No surprise there. Well, then divers suddenly boarding? But that would be "overly militaristic."

no intimidation.

But wouldn't that be too militaristic?

Why not just search the ship using more conventional tactics?

Like bomb and weapon sniffing dogs? Then the Muslims would claim deliberate religious defilement by the Dreaded Canine Abomination.

The IDF isnt what it used to be.

And neither, apparently, is your argumentative skill.
23 posted on 06/01/2010 2:07:16 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

You can not talk sense into these people. When students try to talk sense into them or express opposite viewpoints, the faculty takes action.

Here’s an example:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1371932/posts


24 posted on 06/01/2010 2:13:16 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: aruanan

Since you have decided to insult me without cause I can play that game if you prefer. Ships get boarded EVERY DAY without commandos and helicopter gunships. There are established procedures for such things. Was there radio contact, an order to cut engines and allow boarding? A warning shot if the ship refused to yield? If that wasnt the case, swarming in like something out of Blackhawk down was premature and uncalled for.

“You’re flying in over the sea, what surprise could there be?”
Exactly, the success of such an operation DEPENDS on surprise. How stupid is it to drop soldiers onto a crowd of extremist muslims who are ready for you. Boarding is usually done ship to ship, where there has been communication so you know what you are getting into.

“No intimidation.”
The Coast Guard boards ships all the time. The intimidation comes from having a ship capable of sinking you if you resist.

“But wouldn’t that be too militaristic?”
You either do it as a stealth operation or an overt military/coast guard type operation. This was neither. As a police action it was a failure, as a military operation it was a failure, because of stupid tactics.

“Like bomb and weapon sniffing dogs? Then the Muslims would claim deliberate religious defilement by the Dreaded Canine Abomination”
Searches do not require dogs. But if dogs were required it wouldnt make a difference how you boarded the ship. They would still complain so who gives a ****.

Since you are defending this operation you apparently think this was a well thought out and executed plan. If so, you are a moron. The fact that it failed so spectacularly and predictably has had no impact on your opinion speaks for itself.


26 posted on 06/02/2010 7:07:31 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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