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Medical registry ignores benefits of responsible gun ownership
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 1 May, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 06/02/2010 4:49:23 AM PDT by marktwain

Louisville's The Courier-Journal editorial promises to tell us "Guns' real cost":

University of Louisville physician Bill Smock...created The Gun Shot Wound Registry 14 years ago to keep track of local incidents involving guns (homicides, suicides, assaults and accidents...It monitors when shooting incidents occur, who the victims are, and how much it costs to provide their medical treatment.

Unsurprisingly:

Most victims of gun violence, it turns out, are uninsured, and so academic medical centers...end up spending far more to treat victims than they can ever expect to be repaid.

...Gun violence is...an ailment related quite specifically to such factors as gang violence, domestic and substance abuse, mental illness and accidents that occur just about every day...

"An ailment." Yeah, I got a bad case of the drive-bys flaring up again and the crack's not helping...

The editorial conclusion?

Gun owners can and must do better.

You know, by accepting more "gun control." And note the imperative "must."

If I may:

Dr. Smock's registry only accounts for a very narrowly defined and agenda-driven subset of costs. Nowhere are these balanced against the benefits of responsible gun ownership. For instance, what would medical costs be like if no defensive gun uses occurred, most of which reportedly take place without a shot being fired, thus actually deterring violence and resulting injuries?

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; healthcare; registry
Like much agenda driven "research" the focus is on what can be pushed politicaly, not on actually solving a problem.
1 posted on 06/02/2010 4:49:24 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
"Yeah, I got a bad case of the drive-bys flaring up again and the crack's not helping..."

LOL.

2 posted on 06/02/2010 4:54:04 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


3 posted on 06/02/2010 4:57:30 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: marktwain
By themselves, gunshot wound statistics aren't very interesting. What he should've been doing is keeping track of injuries and treatment costs from several sources. It would be interesting to compare firearms related data to say, traffic accident data, or obesity related ailments, or just plain getting old (arthritis, etc.)

Anyone can take data on a single issue and make it appear serious, horrific even -- by itself. It is only when you compare it to related data that a better, more accurate perspective emerges.

4 posted on 06/02/2010 5:02:32 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: marktwain

I bet he didn’t break the numbers down by race. The results would have been... telling.


5 posted on 06/02/2010 5:08:33 AM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: Dayman

the only time you’re allowed to profile based on race is when you’re giving away taxpayer dollars.


6 posted on 06/02/2010 5:09:45 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: marktwain
University of Louisville physician Bill Smock.

I'm not going to look on Google Maps. I have a pretty good hunch of where that location is and what type of people he treats for gun shot wounds.

In the Chi area its 'Stroger Hospital', aka Cook County Hospital. The ER Docs there get more experience with gun shot wounds than a military doc in Iraq or Afghanistan. And none of the 'victims' have insurance, except Medicaid if that.

Another odd stat. Most who survive get shackled to their beds after surgery and have Cops guarding their Rooms.

Gee, I wonder why? (must be those gun thingys just waiting to shoot someone)

7 posted on 06/02/2010 5:30:22 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: Condor51
The ER Docs there get more experience with gun shot wounds than a military doc in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Back in the late 80's/early 90's when I was on active duty, military physicians used to rotate through ED's in New Orleans, San Antonio, Chicago and Detroit to gain trauma experience. Since 2001, that's no longer necessary. Balad and Bagram see more GSW's than Crook county now.

8 posted on 06/02/2010 5:36:26 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Here is something you can't understand...")
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Yes,my mistake time wise. In the 80's there weren't any 'hot spots' for US Military MDs to get Trauma training except the 'inner city'.

But as things clam down in the ME, Chicago's animals, and in other 'urban areas', they will keep on shooting each other.

I can't wait for Chi's Handgun Ban to be overturned. I'd bet the rent that for one, home burglaries / break-ins will drop like a rock. And second, Mayor Daley will have a stroke over people being able to legally defend themselves in their homes. (that guy IS mentally ill)

9 posted on 06/02/2010 5:49:02 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: Condor51
My how Law Enforcement's attitudes vary. I live in Southern Indiana and a few years ago when I applied for my CCW permit, the Sheriff's investigator said, "We need more law-abiding gun owners like you."

Every time a homeowner or other citizen uses a weapon to defend life and property, there's always a quote in the newspaper from local LEO's saying, "Criminals should be wary, because law abiding citizens are armed."

10 posted on 06/02/2010 5:55:43 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Here is something you can't understand...")
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*** My how Law Enforcement's attitudes vary. I live in Southern Indiana and a few years ago when I applied for my CCW permit, the Sheriff's investigator said, "We need more law-abiding gun owners like you." ***

The problem in Chi isn't the Cops on the beat, they despise Daley. It's people like his lackey, the 'new' Supt of Police, Jody Weiss, aka 'J-Fled' (he scooted from a crime scene pdq) whose an ex career FEEB and the beat cops despise him too. Plus Dem lackeys like the Crook County States Attorney.

The previous one, DICK Devine (real name) was as psychotic as Daley about guns. He'd throw the book at John Q Public if caught with a handgun, but let career criminals skate on misdemeanors.

Thankfully my Village is Gun Friebdly. Our Guns are are one page, and basically we follow the State Laws.

11 posted on 06/02/2010 6:05:01 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: marktwain
David Codrea's article might be of some import if anybody still read The Communist-Urinal anymore.

But they don't.

12 posted on 06/02/2010 6:20:41 AM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: Dayman

“I bet he didn’t break the numbers down by race.”

Before the big blow we had a visitor at the Coroner’s Office from the London Metropolitan Police. He was looking at our statistics and made a statement that made some of us laugh, as we expected him to be very PC. He said if you eliminated one group you would have very few murders in NO. One hint it wasn’t the Amish. I have, to the consternation of the Coroner, always called our murder rate URBAN RENEWAL. Drug dealers killing drug dealers ain’t all bad as long as they don’t cause collateral damage.


13 posted on 06/02/2010 6:52:06 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We are an Oligarchy now and worse if we fail. TeaParty On...)
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