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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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1 posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:43 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: LucyT; hennie pennie

LucyT, please ping the list. Thanks!


2 posted on 06/02/2010 1:44:25 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

Sorry, I’ve forgotten how to hot link in the body of the thread. I’ll try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


3 posted on 06/02/2010 1:46:34 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

Thank you ever so much!!!


4 posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:51 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx
I guess I'll start it:

Peru?!

5 posted on 06/02/2010 1:48:12 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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6 posted on 06/02/2010 1:54:34 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: DCBryan1

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=73111

Former Holloway Suspect Named In Peruvian Woman’s Murder

Joran Van der Sloot, the 22-year-old who was suspected in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance, is now the prime suspect in a young Peruvian woman’s murder.

The Peruvian National Police confirmed to AMW that they are looking for Van der Sloot in relation to 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez’s murder. Authorities said she was last seen with him at a hotel and casino located in the Miraflores district in Lima around 5:15 a.m. on Sunday, May 30, 2010.

Stephany’s body was found inside of a hotel room later that same morning. Police said her car was abandoned in a neighboring district.

Peruvian officials believe Van der Sloot crossed into Chile on May 31 and have alerted authorities there.

Natalee Holloway’s Disappearance

Natalee, 18, vanished in May 2005 just before she was due to fly home to Alabama, at the end of her high school graduation trip to Aruba.

Natalee, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen in public leaving a bar with Van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers — Deepak and Satish Kalpoe — hours before she was due to board a flight home.

Van der Sloot was initially arrested in June 2005, then released, and then arrested again in 2007. That time, he was questioned but never charged.

In 2008, a series of conversations between Van der Sloot and a man he believed to be his friend were recorded in a Range Rover that had been rigged with three hidden cameras by Peter R. de Vries, a Dutch television crime reporter. They were shown on Dutch television. In the footage, Van der Sloot said he was with Natalee when she collapsed on a beach in Aruba. He said he believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.

“She’ll never be found,” he said.

But Van der Sloot later said he was lying in those taped conversations and denied having anything to do with the Alabama teenager’s disappearance.


7 posted on 06/02/2010 1:54:41 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: DCBryan1

Yes, Peru.

No surprise. Peru is a well known destination for psychopathic Dutch murderers with smirky sneers, I guess.


8 posted on 06/02/2010 1:55:00 PM PDT by Shermy
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9 posted on 06/02/2010 1:56:24 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20006616-504083.html

Joran van der Sloot Peru Murder? Natalee Holloway Prosecutor Shocked
Posted by Kevin Hayes

NEW YORK (CBS) Aruban prosecutor Peter Blanken, who has been part of the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, has learned that Joran van der Sloot is now a suspect in a new murder, that of a 21-year-old woman whose body was found in a hotel room in Lima, Peru. The prosecutor told CBS News that the allegation was a remarkable development and says that he is personally shocked by it.

Early Wednesday morning, Stephany Flores Ramirez was found dead, Peruvian newspaper El Comercio reports, in a hotel room registered under van der Sloot’s name. According to police reports, Ramirez had been brutally stabbed and was found wrapped in a blanket in a pool of blood.

Chief of detectives Col. Miguel Canlla says that Stephany was murdered on Sunday, and the girl’s father, Ricardo Flores, says van der Sloot appears with his daughter in video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday.

Aruban Prosecutor Peter Blanken said that an Interpol international arrest warrant has been issued for van der Sloot, who may, according to some reports, be on the run from police. The Dutch Foreign Affairs Department in the Netherlands has notified their people in Chile to be aware that Joran may be in Chile.

Five years ago, in May 2005, Alabama high school student Natalee Holloway disappeared during a senior class trip to Aruba. She was last seen leaving a bar with Joran van der Sloot. Van der Sloot has been detained several times, but never charged.

According to Blanken, he is examining the new details but does not expect it to affect the Holloway case or provide new evidence. He says that they will be contacting the Peruvian authorities later today to see if they can offer assistance.


10 posted on 06/02/2010 1:58:11 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

OMG Natalee Holloway is dead?


11 posted on 06/02/2010 2:01:37 PM PDT by Madistan ((This space for rent))
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To: RGVTx; STARWISE; maggief; penelopesire

Juron - the serial killer - Melded to one thread.

Easier to follow.


12 posted on 06/02/2010 2:02:11 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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13 posted on 06/02/2010 2:02:59 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx

Joe Taco checks in.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470839/ns/world_news-americas/

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An attorney for Van der Sloot in New York City, Joe Tacopina, said he did not know his client’s whereabouts and has not been in touch with him since the Peru allegations emerged.

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

“Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull’s-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play,” Tacopina said.

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(statement from Beth, Natalee’s Mom)

“What’s happening now is incredible,” she said. “At this moment we don’t have anything to do with it, but we are following the case with great interest and if Peruvian authorities would need us, we are here.”


14 posted on 06/02/2010 2:06:21 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Madistan

No Habeas Corpus.


15 posted on 06/02/2010 2:06:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: onyx

FYI:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=1.0


16 posted on 06/02/2010 2:09:34 PM PDT by maggief ((Fair use))
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To: maggief

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17 posted on 06/02/2010 2:12:39 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: RGVTx

Tacopina? LOL, that reminds me of the unleashed refugees, yikes, that’s ancient history, but only maybe four years ago.


18 posted on 06/02/2010 2:16:02 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx

He better hope that Peru does not get a hold of him - their jails are tough ...

Just ask Lori Berenson, who just got released from jail after 15 years for helping Shining Path rebels ...


19 posted on 06/02/2010 2:21:59 PM PDT by Lmo56
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20 posted on 06/02/2010 2:24:10 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: onyx

SM is getting slammed with traffic.


21 posted on 06/02/2010 2:25:57 PM PDT by maggief ((Fair use))
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To: RGVTx

I don’t have much to add to this thread. I am hopeful that this guy will be convicted of all murders he has been involved in.

The family of Natalie and the family of this new girl should have closure. And this or any guy that would do this sort of thing, should be strung up and allowed to have aunts eat them bite by bite for a month or however long it took.


22 posted on 06/02/2010 2:29:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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23 posted on 06/02/2010 2:29:55 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: maggief

I see that...lol.


24 posted on 06/02/2010 2:30:13 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: RGVTx

“Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull’s-eye on his back now
___________________________________________

Yeah poor boy...

the hitkillers of the world are dumping bodies in his hotel rooms...


25 posted on 06/02/2010 2:30:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: RGVTx

Daddy’s dollars will bribe him out of trouble.


26 posted on 06/02/2010 2:33:39 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: hennie pennie

Thanks /mark for later


27 posted on 06/02/2010 2:33:52 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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28 posted on 06/02/2010 2:34:22 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: freeangel

Daddy won’t be doing much of anything for his boy now that he is in a hotter place than Aruba.


29 posted on 06/02/2010 2:40:52 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 06/02/2010 2:40:54 PM PDT by texanyankee
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To: hennie pennie

thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 06/02/2010 2:41:46 PM PDT by texanyankee
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To: RGVTx

Add me to the list please!


32 posted on 06/02/2010 2:42:04 PM PDT by sissyjane (Did you plug the hole yet Daddy????)
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To: DoughtyOne
"aunts eat them bite by bite for a month"

I know what you mean, but this made me laugh.

33 posted on 06/02/2010 2:44:07 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: amom

For the records.
“...dannieg ...06-02-2010, 05:12 PM ...
I just missed the father’s interview with CNN—just caught the tail end...

He said that there is video of Joran entering the Casino (he said just like in the NH case), also video of him leaving with his daughter. Video of them going down the street in her truck. Video going into hotel.

Father said that Joran had taken HER truck and left and then abandoned truck and taken taxi to the train/bus (I think train) to the border with Chile...”
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=368887&page=9


34 posted on 06/02/2010 2:44:40 PM PDT by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a deployed US Army tanker)
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To: RGVTx

I will be amazed (and glad!) if they take this thug alive. I think he will commit suicide, and his last emotion on earth will be a surge of savage joy, imagining Beth Holloway’s disappointment when she realizes he took the truth about Natalie’s disappearance with him to the grave .Knowing he’s depriving the newest victim’s parents of the meager satisfaction of seeing justice done to their daughter’s murderer would also be a sadistic pleasure. I really will be shocked if they find this sociopath alive and take him into custody.


35 posted on 06/02/2010 2:46:33 PM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: RGVTx

That’s funny... I do that once in a while. ;^)

And uncles, this could get series...


36 posted on 06/02/2010 2:46:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: freeangel

His Daddy died last year so he’s likely speant most of Daddy’s dollars he was left.


37 posted on 06/02/2010 2:51:03 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: sissyjane; LucyT; hennie pennie

Thanks to LucyT for providing me the ping list.
I have added you, sissyjane.
LucyT and henniepennie please add sissyjane to your lists.
Thanks!


38 posted on 06/02/2010 2:51:24 PM PDT by RGVTx
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39 posted on 06/02/2010 2:51:26 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx

Thank you!


40 posted on 06/02/2010 2:52:20 PM PDT by sissyjane (Did you plug the hole yet Daddy????)
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To: DoughtyOne

Worse than having uncles eat them bite by bite. LOL


41 posted on 06/02/2010 2:55:54 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: amom

Sounds like Joran is not trying to hide his crime this time.
No daddy around to assure there is “no body, no crime.”


42 posted on 06/02/2010 2:55:57 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: ladyjane

Yes, when you’re right you’re right. ;^)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2526320/posts?page=36#36


43 posted on 06/02/2010 2:58:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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44 posted on 06/02/2010 3:00:09 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kaylar

I think Joran is way too arrogant to commit suicide.
He would rather be here to gloat and torture the families of his victims. Just as he has done to the Holloway family for 5 years.


45 posted on 06/02/2010 3:00:58 PM PDT by RGVTx
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46 posted on 06/02/2010 3:12:00 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx

View this for a picture of the victim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orQi_d-pMBY&feature=player_embedded


47 posted on 06/02/2010 3:15:13 PM PDT by David1 (.)
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48 posted on 06/02/2010 3:17:05 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: David1

Another thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526387/posts


49 posted on 06/02/2010 3:18:51 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: hennie pennie

TYVM for the zing!!!!


50 posted on 06/02/2010 3:20:10 PM PDT by BossLady (No More Corona in Arizona!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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