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Calif. moves to ban plastic bags at grocery stores
Associated Press ^ | June 2, 2010

Posted on 06/02/2010 5:38:26 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- It could soon cost California shoppers at the checkout aisle if they forget to bring their own bags to the grocery store.

Legislation passed Wednesday by the California Assembly would prohibit grocery stores, pharmacies, liquor stores and convenience stores from giving out plastic bags.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bag; bags; ban; california; callegislation; globalwarminghoax; grocery; grocerybags; liberalfascism; moves; nannystate; plastic; plasticbags; stores
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1 posted on 06/02/2010 5:38:27 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well most people can’t afford food

So bags are not needed


2 posted on 06/02/2010 5:41:04 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Free ThinkerNY

have they banned paper bags?


3 posted on 06/02/2010 5:41:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Could someone open Bag Store? I didn’t see Bag Stores on the list!


4 posted on 06/02/2010 5:42:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Brought to you by the same people who forced shoppers to us plastic bags.

The objective is to cause chaos.


5 posted on 06/02/2010 5:43:16 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The goal is to get rid of unsightly plastic bags that often wind up in urban rivers and the ocean, as well as to reduce the number of bags heading for landfills.

I am guessing that the urban dwellers are responsible for debris in the urban rivers, not plastic bags. Why not just impose this law in the urban centers since that seems to be where the problem is? (Last sentence is semi-sarcastic.)

6 posted on 06/02/2010 5:43:32 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Pssssssst....California Legislators...You’ve got other things to worry about.


7 posted on 06/02/2010 5:44:19 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: GeronL
"have they banned paper bags?"

How do you think they saved the rainforests? < /sarc>

8 posted on 06/02/2010 5:44:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

So... does this mean all the baggers are going to get the sack?


9 posted on 06/02/2010 5:45:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Idiot Gaia worshipers ;

Get out your bleach and launder those reusable fabric grocery bags after each use. You’re not clogging up landfill with plastic throw-aways, but your environmental conscientiousness could make you sick.

A microbiological study — a first in North America — of the popular, eco-friendly bags has uncovered some unsettling facts. Swab-testing by two independent laboratories found unacceptably high levels of bacterial, yeast, mold and coliform counts in the reusable bags.

“The main risk is food poisoning,” Dr. Richard Summerbell, research director at Toronto-based Sporometrics and former chief of medical mycology for the Ontario Ministry of Health, stated in a news release. Dr. Summerbell evaluated the study results.

“But other significant risks include skin infections such as bacterial boils, allergic reactions, triggering of asthma attacks, and ear infections,” he stated.

The study found that 64% of the reusable bags tested were contaminated with some level of bacteria and close to 30% had elevated bacterial counts higher than what’s considered safe for drinking water.

Further, 40% of the bags had yeast or mold, and some of the bags had an unacceptable presence of coliforms, faecal intestinal bacteria, when there should have been 0.

“The presence of faecal material in some of the reusable bags is particularly concerning,” Dr. Summerbell stated. “All meat products should be individually wrapped before being placed in a reusable bag to prevent against leakage. This should become a mandated safety standard across the entire grocery industry.”

Don’t use your cloth grocery bags for toting gym clothes or diapers or anything but your groceries to prevent possible exposure to a superbug called community-acquired MRSA, a highly antibiotic-resistant form of a common infectious bacterium, Dr. Summerbell cautioned.

The study was funded by the Environment and Plastics Industry Council (EPIC), an industry initiative to promote responsible use and recovery of plastic resources. EPIC is a committee of the Canadian Plastics Industry Association.

Conclusions from the study? This may have you gladly handing over the coins for plastic bags at the supermarket:

• The moist, dark, warm interior of a folded used reusable bag that has acquired a small amount of water and trace food contamination is an ideal incubator for bacteria.

• The strong presence of yeasts in some bags indicates the presence of water and microbial growth substrate (food).

• There is a potential for cross-contamination of food if the same reusable bags are used on successive trips.

• Check-out staff in stores may be transferring these microbes from reusable bag to reusable bag as the contaminants get on their hands.

• In cases of food poisoning, experts will have to test reusable bags in addition to food products as the possible sources of contamination.

Next steps? The study has been sent to the federal Sub-Committee on Food Safety currently investigating the safety of Canada’s food system, federal and provincial health ministers and medical organizations across Canada with a request for immediate action.

Read more: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/theappetizer/archive/2009/05/20/back-to-plastic-reusable-grocery-bags-may-pose-public-health-risk.aspx#ixzz0pkLK1MZM


10 posted on 06/02/2010 5:46:13 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Calif. moves to ban plastic bags at grocery stores

Who will go shopping then?

11 posted on 06/02/2010 5:46:14 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am old enough to remember when grocery bags were always paper.. THEN to “save the trees “ stores were encouraged to go to the awful flimsy plastic ones.. now of course plastic is an environmental “issue”

So its back to paper IF YOU PAY or bring your own cloth... I expect in 10 years they will find a problem with the cloth ones and we will move to daily grocery shopping so we can carry the food in our pockets


12 posted on 06/02/2010 5:46:19 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Say goodbye to more jobs in the plastic bag industry.


13 posted on 06/02/2010 5:46:51 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
After ten years of using plastic bags...


14 posted on 06/02/2010 5:47:06 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

LOL! Californians deserve everything that is happening to them. They should have stood up to this crap years ago. There is no stopping the commies now. Their entire state is run by moronic “college students”.


15 posted on 06/02/2010 5:47:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("A Republic, If You Can Keep It" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Well, maybe the store will absorb the cost of paper bags since they advertise on them. This is just so stupid. Every grocery has a recycle bin for the bags. I use the bags for garbage, now I'll have to buy plastic for garbage. California sucks. If it weren't for the weather and the beach, I'd leave.
16 posted on 06/02/2010 5:47:58 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: GeronL

The article said they will be charging for paper bags so those arent banned they will just cost you money—
“It would also call for customers to be charged for using store-issued paper bags.”


17 posted on 06/02/2010 5:48:47 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Prime example of unintended consequences.

Greenies pushed every store into using plastic rather than paper — to save the treeeeeeeeeessssss.


18 posted on 06/02/2010 5:48:56 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Nachum; sheik yerbouty; SoldierDad; SoldiersPrayingMom; null and void; ...

The state of CA is headed down into the sewer and is facing bankruptcy and the Arrogant Politicians in Sacramento are worried about plastic bags, flat screen TVs, energy light bulbs, and Arizona’s immigration laws. Morons inhabit the Capitol in Sacramento. We can pray that they, too, will be voted out when We The People take out the garbage.


19 posted on 06/02/2010 5:49:03 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yeah, plastic bags are convenient and can carry a lot more without tearing than paper bags, so let’s ban them. Screw environmentalists, screw the Democrats - all they care about is soothing their own pollution neuroses while they make life worse in a thousands ways, big and small, for the rest of us.


20 posted on 06/02/2010 5:49:17 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: GeronL

Do you get a bag for the bag at the bag store?


21 posted on 06/02/2010 5:50:43 PM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: Flavius

I guess I’ll just have to buy less. Only buy what I can carry. Of course, that will mean more trips to the store.


22 posted on 06/02/2010 5:51:41 PM PDT by Qout
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To: mountn man
That's a well built trellis next to the fence.
23 posted on 06/02/2010 5:51:58 PM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: Para-Ord.45

One local grocery store used a mixture of bags that were supposedly bio-degradable and regular. It recently changed ownership and I haven’t seen the bio-degradables in it now.

I haven’t seen any other store using the bio-degradable ones. They are probably more costly to the stores.


24 posted on 06/02/2010 5:52:52 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Drango

That brought a smile ! Good one.


25 posted on 06/02/2010 5:53:18 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: funfan

thanks.

So why not put a tax on the plastic bags too? Did they think this would lose revenue from the paper bags?


26 posted on 06/02/2010 5:53:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I live in northern California and my favorite grocery store stopped using plastic bags about a year ago. It’s now just paper or you can bring your own.


27 posted on 06/02/2010 5:53:45 PM PDT by mupcat
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I would even assume you could get a box for a box of bags. lol


28 posted on 06/02/2010 5:54:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The next move is to ban people. Problem solved.


29 posted on 06/02/2010 5:54:15 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yea but they are great for picking up dog crap. My, thats a lot of voters.


30 posted on 06/02/2010 5:54:33 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Figures. The politicians of California have made the state bankrupt and they are at the capital discussing how plastic bags affect the environment. How about homes empty, abandoned property and starving citizens causing some environmental damage? These pussies need to look at some of the real issues and get a life.
31 posted on 06/02/2010 5:55:30 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: skr

re: plastic bag (shown above). Much prefer small real ones than large fake ones any day of the week!!!


32 posted on 06/02/2010 5:55:31 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (FR - my online family. From Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: RnMomof7
I expect in 10 years they will find a problem with the cloth ones

There have already been problems associated with the cloth bags. They tend to hold liquid that drip from the contents. That liquid attracts bacteria. Thus, unless they are washed and sanatized frequently, they can be the source of bacteria.
33 posted on 06/02/2010 5:55:31 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: MaxMax

I’m always amazed when the cashier at Wal-Mart puts the plastic bag of paper plates in a plastic bag. Same thing with the plastic bag of potato’s. I use them to carry my lunch in so who I am to complain?


34 posted on 06/02/2010 5:56:34 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Flavius
A referendum to ban legislators would pass in a heart beat.

Wonder who is going to circulate the petition?

35 posted on 06/02/2010 5:57:05 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Interesting to see what happens with food stamp customers who truly can’t afford the bags (there are a few).


36 posted on 06/02/2010 5:57:05 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: TomGuy

Good point.
I have allot of Trader Joe bags because they are just cool. Use them for beach stuff and pic nicks. I never even thought about the bacteria. Thanks? .-)


37 posted on 06/02/2010 5:58:30 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What a bunch of losers. They really don’t have anything else to concentrate on?


38 posted on 06/02/2010 6:04:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yessss and it was to save the trees.


39 posted on 06/02/2010 6:04:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

ban california from food....


40 posted on 06/02/2010 6:05:19 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: mountn man

Whose the fat girl in the back?


41 posted on 06/02/2010 6:06:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: svcw
FR thread from May 20, 2009:

Those Reusable Grocery Bags Can Cause Food Poisoning
42 posted on 06/02/2010 6:06:17 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: svcw

Here, here...


43 posted on 06/02/2010 6:07:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Normal4me

The trick is to recycle ..we use those walmart bags as trash bags ... they work great in waste baskets and even for kitchen trash ..

Saves a few bucks and they replace the plastic trash bags everyone uses


44 posted on 06/02/2010 6:10:10 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Part of the problem is that the baggers want to put every single item into a bag....is it really easier for me to carry a half-gallon jug of milk (with a handle) if its put in a plastic bag...LOL at the stupidity. And another pet peeve....when did making change become “stack the coins and reciept on top of the bills and shove it back at the customer” who then drops half the coins. To all you cashiers out there...hand them their coins and then count the bills back to them......just venting


45 posted on 06/02/2010 6:11:54 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: TomGuy

I have read the warnings about using them for unwrapped produce and meats...but I was speaking about the environmentalists


46 posted on 06/02/2010 6:11:58 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: GeronL

I remember when Newsweek predicted the next Ice Age was almost here, and the environmentalists were telling us to ask for plastic bags at the supermarket to save the trees.


47 posted on 06/02/2010 6:12:27 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: mupcat
It’s now just paper or you can bring your own.

The kicker? If the paper bag is made well (not the rice paper thin re-re-re-cycled stuff), people tend to hold on to them for re-use anyway. I do....They make excellent masks for airbrushing.

48 posted on 06/02/2010 6:15:49 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: RnMomof7
Oh, I keep them for other purposes as well. I use them in my bathroom trash bins and keep them on my construction van for whatever. I have paint rollers in two of them right now so I didn't have to wash them out today.

My point was people think everything has to go in a bag when purchased.

49 posted on 06/02/2010 6:16:21 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Balding_Eagle

About the time that started, I spent my vacations in the lumber country upstate. Asking for plastic was not well received.


50 posted on 06/02/2010 6:21:17 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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