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Nikki Haley, Still Flying Like a Comet (A week after allegations of an affair, she still leads)
National Review ^ | 06/03/2010 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 06/03/2010 7:04:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Could a blogger’s claim of an affair with a GOP gubernatorial frontrunner end up being a non-factor?

Hilton Head Island, S.C. — Three weeks ago, South Carolina state representative Nikki Haley was one of the Republican party’s brightest rising stars: the first Indian-American GOP state legislator in the country, a reformer who demonstrated a willingness to take on her own party over accountability, and a surprise front-running gubernatorial candidate. A November victory would make her instantly a subject of presidential-ticket talk for either 2012 or 2016.

Today, more than a week after a bombshell accusation of an affair that made national headlines . . . she’s in pretty much the same spot.

Early on in the campaign, race watchers deemed Haley a potential breakout star; she impressed them by taking on her own party over the importance of having recorded votes (instead of voice votes, in which no record is made of which lawmakers approved and which opposed a particular bill or amendment). But she faced a crowded primary: Henry McMaster was one of the first state attorneys general to challenge the constitutionality of Obamacare, U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett has a lifetime American Conservative Union rating of 98, and Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer rounded out the field.

Two weeks before the primary, and shortly after former Alaska governor Sarah Palin attended a rally for Haley at the state capitol, Haley’s campaign hit the kind of bump that every campaign manager dreads: Will Folks, a former spokesman for South Carolina governor Mark Sanford, former consultant to Haley, and blogger, declared he had had, before his marriage, an “inappropriate physical relationship” with the candidate.

Folks is an unusual character, even by South Carolina standards. He was charged with domestic battery in 2005; he pled guilty while insisting he was innocent, discussing the charges in an op-ed in The State newspaper. Before the public claim of the affair, his website offered a parody interview that quickly turned bizarre, with a faux-Folks telling faux-Haley “Shut your mouth, don’t you know I beat up women? Like, all the time?” to canned laughter. Then there’s the less-than-reassuring characterization that Folks “shrugs off accusations that he is paid to publish certain stories.”

Haley denied the affair. Folks’s initial post indicated he would not be making additional comments about the relationship, but it quickly became clear that he intended to post regular teasing updates, often remarking how everyone in the state wanted to know the details of his claim. Yet after a week of infuriating posts, neither he nor any other publication has shown something that definitively refutes Haley’s denials; the state has been left waiting for a smoking gun.

Folks began his original post by claiming that “within the last forty-eight hours several pieces of information which purportedly document a prior physical relationship between myself and Rep. Haley have begun to be leaked slowly, piece by piece, to members of the mainstream media. I am told that at least one story based upon this information will be published this week.” But more than a week after his claim, no publication has come forward with any evidence documenting that physical relationship. Folks himself has released phone records indicating a great number of calls between the two, including some lengthy late-night calls, but after-hours calls between a candidate and a consultant don’t really prove the “inappropriate physical relationship” he alleged. South Carolina’s largest newspaper, Columbia-based The State, flatly concludes: “Folks has not provided proof.”

If Folks or someone else does generate indisputable evidence of an affair, Haley will be in trouble for not merely lying to the public but for lying repeatedly and convincingly. But for now, the passion of her denial, Folks’s contradictory claims, and the general lack of proof appear to have rendered the potential scandal a non-factor. Polling has been fairly sparse in this race, but Haley has led all three conducted so far, with her lead ranging from 10 to 21 percentage points. One of the three was conducted after Folks’s claim; it put her ahead by almost 11.

The Republican gubernatorial candidates debated Tuesday, and while Folks’s claim came up, none of her rivals dared to press the issue. In fact, the Augusta NBC affiliate characterized their response as “back[ing] her up.” Wednesday, the coverage from The State mentioned Haley’s denial in the second paragraph and didn’t return to the topic until seven paragraphs later; the print version of the Hilton Head Island Packet deleted even those modest references from its version of The State’s coverage. (Late Wednesday night, Larry Marchant, a lobbyist affiliated with the campaign of rival Andre Bauer resigned, and claimed that he too had had an affair with Haley, a one-night stand. He said he could not produce any proof of their encounter. In their second debate in as many nights, Haley accused Bauer of pushing the rumors earlier in the week and dismissing Marchant only when it became clear that no one took his claims seriously. Bauer denied her accusation and said he wanted nothing to do with Marchant's claims.)

It’s not as if the candidates don’t have actual issues to discuss. After rampant growth the past decade, South Carolina’s unemployment is near the worst in the nation at 11.6 percent, and the Gulf Coast spill has many residents wondering about the risk in long-discussed plans to seek natural gas or oil off the Palmetto State’s coast. The Packet’s main article on the debate focused on the candidates’ views on drilling. All but McMaster are still open to the idea, provided it is out of sight from shore and the cause of the Gulf Coast spill is clearly determined and solved.

“We don’t stop all the planes from flying. What we do is we look at that accident, we learn from it and say, ‘What do we need to do to make sure it doesn’t happen again?’ That’s what we need to do here,” Haley summarized during the debate.

Meanwhile, the coverage of the claims on Will Folks’s website is increasingly bizarre, almost to the point of self-parody. A “News” item on his site declared Wednesday, “Needless to say, Folks has always had a ‘hyper-inflated’ sense of his own self worth, as well as a remarkable ability to survive scandals and ignore what he calls ‘the haters.’ Now, with the Haley saga adding another chapter to what was already a juicy personal and political narrative, there has been conisderable [sic] speculation as to whether Folks will publish a book — something he wanted to do in 2006 prior to launching FITS. Even one of Haley’s top donors has recommended that Folks reserve some of the more salacious details of his tryst with the front-running gubernatorial candidate for future publication, suggesting the move would be a ‘golden, golden, golden opportunity.’”

South Carolina Republicans make their choice June 8. If no candidate receives at least 50 percent of the vote in the primary, a runoff will be held between the top two vote-getters. Unless the polling is wildly inaccurate, it’s hard to imagine Haley not at least making the runoff.

Republicans nationally may be sighing a breath of relief. The relationship between national parties and state parties is comparable to that of a major-league baseball team and its minor-league affiliates; as the national talent ages past its prime, the larger institution needs the farm clubs to consistently offer fresh talent with broad potential.

Sometimes, a state’s political culture crushes rising talent before it gets a chance to shine. New York’s state party is beset by infighting, and appears set to lose a governor’s race and two U.S. Senate races by wide margins simultaneously. Until Scott Brown’s upset win, Massachusetts Republicans seemed to be a political nonentity for a long stretch, and Ohio’s GOP nearly inflicted intractable damage to the party’s image with a series of scandals a few years ago.

And then there’s South Carolina. On paper, this state is an ideal testing ground for future national conservative leaders: The electorate combines a traditional local culture of agriculture, fishing, and religious conservatism, and has in its population a remarkable number of recent transplants, from young families to retired military personnel. Across the state, most counties experienced rapid growth for much of the past decade, from the northern-edge suburbs across the state line from Charlotte, N.C., to the resort and retirement hub here on the state’s southern tip. In fostering entrepreneurship and a better and less expensive quality of life, the Palmetto State could, until the recent recession, argue that it had become the East Coast equivalent of California or Nevada.

But any Republican who wants to reach high office has to maneuver a ruthless and cutthroat political culture that would intimidate Machiavelli. The GOP primary for state treasurer features a challenger running attack ads, hitting the incumbent for driving a state vehicle with a navigation package that’s too expensive.

For now, it appears Haley will emerge from a hard-fought primary largely unscathed. Of course, there’s always the chance Will Folks will have something to say about her GPS system.

— Jim Geraghty writes the Campaign Spot for NRO.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 100percentnotguilty; affair; dirtytricks; elections; jenerette; nikkihaley; socarolina; southcarolina; willfolks

1 posted on 06/03/2010 7:04:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
By-the-way, I had an affair with her just last week.
2 posted on 06/03/2010 7:09:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nikki apparently still has a lot of good-ole-boy ass kicking to do in SC.


3 posted on 06/03/2010 7:10:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Looking forward to our next governor, Nikki Haley!


4 posted on 06/03/2010 7:10:16 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By-the-way, I had an affair with her just last week.

You too?

5 posted on 06/03/2010 7:10:33 AM PDT by softwarecreator (I want my greenshoots!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nikki Haley Meets The Press
6 posted on 06/03/2010 7:10:46 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By-the-way, I had an affair with her just last week.

How does one get next in line ? :)
7 posted on 06/03/2010 7:10:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I trust Nikki Haley!


8 posted on 06/03/2010 7:15:19 AM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: softwarecreator
Was that an AFFAIR TO REMEMBER ?

9 posted on 06/03/2010 7:16:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Folks is and has been a nut, but his phone records of several late night calls extending for up to three hours in duration are credible evidence, though not conclusive, of an affair. The article conveniently failed to mention the 700 phone calls involved between the two.

Regardless, Haley is the Sanfrauds’ chosen successor. I have seen enough of both of Mr. and Mrs. Sanfraud and anyone they may endorse.

10 posted on 06/03/2010 7:17:03 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: SeekAndFind

Would you all quit talking about the Nikki that way!! Everyone knows she’s coming over to my house this evening. :)


11 posted on 06/03/2010 7:25:11 AM PDT by animal172 (I would have been here sooner, but I just got here.)
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To: MBB1984
Folks is and has been a nut, but his phone records of several late night calls extending for up to three hours in duration are credible evidence, though not conclusive, of an affair.

Are there tapes ? That would be credible evidence.
12 posted on 06/03/2010 7:33:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

She’s a good looking broad. Who wouldn’t want to go a couple of laps with her.


13 posted on 06/03/2010 7:45:04 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: SeekAndFind
Were there any tapes of Bill Clinton? You probably will not be believe any evidence until you see a porn video of the two.

Several late night phone calls between 45 minutes and over three hours between 10 pm and 5 am is highly suspicious activity between a married woman and a part time consultant who is a single man. Folks was only paid approximately $5,000, so there should be no need for extensive communication. Where was Haley's husband? Where were her children? Since Haley is a member of a United Methodist church, that bastion of social conservatism, I guess we can overlook these things.

14 posted on 06/03/2010 7:50:43 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984
Several late night phone calls between 45 minutes and over three hours between 10 pm and 5 am is highly suspicious activity between a married woman and a part time consultant who is a single man.

Yeah, right. So I'm a married woman having an affair with a guy. Trying to be sneaky. Don't want my husband to find out. Yet I have time to be on the phone for hours at a time without worrying about getting caught.

Next.

15 posted on 06/03/2010 8:05:30 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (What's black and white and red all over? - OBAMA)
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To: MBB1984
Were there any tapes of Bill Clinton?

Bill Clinton had a record of such behavior. He had admitted an affair with Gennifer Flowers during the '92 campaign.

You probably will not be believe any evidence until you see a porn video of the two.

Unfounded allegations by an admitted domestic abuser does not constitute "evidence". If you are so sure one exists, produce the "porn video".

Several late night phone calls between 45 minutes and over three hours between 10 pm and 5 am is highly suspicious activity between a married woman and a part time consultant who is a single man.

From what I have read and heard about political campaigns, this doesn't sound particularly suspicious to me. Campaigning is a very hectic, full time job. Many events, such as "rubber chicken" dinners take place in the evenings. Perhaps her schedule required that she speak with her consultants after the day's events were finished.

Where was Haley's husband? Where were her children?

I don't expect my wife or children to monitor my business calls. Do you?

Since Haley is a member of a United Methodist church, that bastion of social conservatism, I guess we can overlook these things.

I am not a Methodist, but this kind of religious bigotry is ridiculous.

16 posted on 06/03/2010 8:36:56 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (The shattered skulls of tyrants should be used for traction under the boots of justice. T. Nugent)
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To: MBB1984
Where was Haley's husband? Where were her children?

We also need proof that her husband did not know about such phone conversations especially during campaign season.

I've been on the phone with a lady colleague of mine when we were on a very tight project ( on and off, sometimes 3 times a day ). She would call me at home and I would call her from home. My wife knows who this lady as she works closely with me. And oh yeah, she was single then ( married now ).

The all important question still is this --- WHAT WERE THE REASONS FOR THE PHONE CONVERSATIONS ? WAS IT BUSINESS ? OR WAS IT SOMETHING ELSE ?

If it was lovey dovey stuff, we need more evidence of that. Not saying you are wrong in your suspicions, but an affair is NOT the only explanation for this and if we want to attribute malice, we need MORE CONVINCING evidence.
17 posted on 06/03/2010 8:45:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; MBB1984

I don’t know which country you live in, but here in the USA, a person who is charged with a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Nikki Haley has not even been charged with a crime, but her character is under attack by politically-motivated low lifes. The burden of proof is on THEM, but they have not produced a single shred of compelling evidence to back up their claims.

Phone calls at all hours between a political candidate and his or her speechwriter are not compelling evidence, but just circumstantial crap.

You should be questioning Haley’s attackers, not her.

Disgusting.

- JP


18 posted on 06/03/2010 9:02:20 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Every time a Democrat mocks Sarah Palin, an independent gets its wings." - JP)
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To: MBB1984

MBB1984 wrote:

his phone records of several late night calls extending for up to three hours in duration are credible evidence, though not conclusive, of an affair.

Really? 3 hour phone calls to do business (even late at night) could have occurred, and are just as likely. The phone records are proof they talked - not what they talked about.


19 posted on 06/03/2010 9:19:14 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: PalmettoMason
You are blinded to reality by your devotion to Ms. Haley. Late night and early am calls extending for hours to a part time, and I stress part time consultant, are unusual business practices. They made 700 calls!

Spare me the rhetoric about the tough campaign. Haley is in a extremely safe Conservative SC House of Representatives district and many of the calls were not in the heat of the campaign. These calls are bizarre.

And, by the way, the Methodist church is a liberal church. It is a member of the World Council of Churches, an organization that whole heatedly supports Marxism.

20 posted on 06/03/2010 9:33:00 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Josh Painter

Circumstantial evidence is often the best and most compelling evidence.


21 posted on 06/03/2010 9:35:52 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984
And, by the way, the Methodist church is a liberal church. It is a member of the World Council of Churches, an organization that whole heatedly supports Marxism.

Haley and Bauer are Methodists. McMaster is a Presbyterian (Also a member church of the WCC). Barrett only identifies himself as "Protestant".

Who (besides you), cares?

I am assuming that you support one of the male candidates. If your candidate was being accused of a homosexual affair by a former staffer based on exactly the same "evidence" that you are accepting against Ms. Haley, would you be willing for your candidate's candidacy, life, and reputation to be ruined?

22 posted on 06/03/2010 10:07:23 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (The shattered skulls of tyrants should be used for traction under the boots of justice. T. Nugent)
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To: MBB1984

What you don’t know about politics currently fills hundreds of books.

Long late night calls are nothing unusual. The daylight and evening hours are used to meet people and persuade them to vote for you. The late hours are for administration.

Get onto a campaign and learn something before you start declaring late night phone calls “not a usual business practice”. They are usual, for the pol as well as for his or her staff.


23 posted on 06/03/2010 10:35:26 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: PalmettoMason
There is a distinct difference as Haley is running as the “family values candidate.” One of her ads mentions “God, grace and family values.” I find it unusual that a true social conservative would be a part of that church. Since she is aligned with Sanfraud, the “fraud” connection makes me more suspicious Conservatives are being sold another bill of goods.

I am not supporting Bauer. But, if a accusation were made against a male candidate from a part time consultant or two, I would evaluate the claim on the same evidence. The quantity and duration of calls at most unusual hours to a part time employee speaks more of an intimate than business relationship.

24 posted on 06/03/2010 10:50:52 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984

Where is the evidence of 700 calls? Where does one get these
documents of 700 calls.....On what basis is your evidence other than your say so


25 posted on 06/03/2010 10:53:27 AM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: MBB1984

I think you are whacky


26 posted on 06/03/2010 10:55:21 AM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: texmexis best
Late night calls “usual” business practices? What about these:

7/09/07 12:01 am for 77 minutes
8/09/07 10:19 pm for 180 minutes
8/25/07 2:24 am for 146 minutes
9/20/07 11:28 pm for 207 minutes
10/17/07 11:19 pm for 67 minutes

This is just a small sample. Do they look like usual business practices to you? Did you know that 2007 was not an election year? Did you know that Folks was only paid about 5,000 for his services as a part time consultant? Do you know what office Haley currently holds and who she represents?—(just a hint, it is not a statewide office) Do you live in South Carolina? Do you know anything about South Carolina politics?

Do you often make responses on matters where you know so little?

27 posted on 06/03/2010 11:20:03 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Bullfrogg

Folks released phone records to the press on Friday.


28 posted on 06/03/2010 11:22:25 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984
There is a distinct difference as Haley is running as the “family values candidate.”

There is no evidence of her not living up to her "family values" other than unproven allegations by a convicted criminal.

One of her ads mentions “God, grace and family values.” I find it unusual that a true social conservative would be a part of that church. I find it unusual that a true social conservative would be a part of that church.

Frankly, I don't care if she handles snakes on Sundays. I want someone who will stand up to the good ol' boy network that made the mess we are in.

29 posted on 06/03/2010 11:33:49 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (The shattered skulls of tyrants should be used for traction under the boots of justice. T. Nugent)
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To: MBB1984

Actually they do look rather normal for a politician.

I was asked to run for office earlier in my life and I politely refused because of the massive demands place on me and my family. This is just one example.

There are others.


30 posted on 06/03/2010 3:05:25 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: MBB1984; PalmettoMason; SeekAndFind
Actually, this phone call sample is a lot more consistent with the pattern of business / campaign calls than lovey-dovey calls.

Where was Haley's husband? Where were her children?

These calls are made after 10-11pm. Most likely, after she spent time with her family in the evening and tucked in her children, maybe spent some time with her husband (15 min. - 1 hr., watching post-prime time 10pm TV?) to unwind, she got the time to call her "part-time" consultant (in political campaigns as in business, "consultant" really means "available 24/7").

Now, that's not only very consistent with family values (spending quality time and taking care of her children and family first in the middle of busy schedule) but a 2-3 hour phone call or even a meeting with a business / political consultant is far more plausible than a sex / love call. I mean, how many times "How do I love thee, let me count the ways" can grown people repeat in a span of 3 hours without it being entirely tiresome, while going over details of a business or campaign issues or strategy is not at all unusual. Husband, most likely, was not sound asleep at 10-11 pm when she was making calls, making the "sex calls" theory even more improbable...

3 hour "phone sex" (and apparently, several times followed by long phone calls made shortly after alleged long "phone sex" calls) would be a real stretch to believe in, unless you maintain that she genuinely "loved" him. 3 hour business / campaign call and a follow up shortly after would be consistent with usual practice.

Does "reach out and touch someone" qualify for a "physical relationship"?

South Carolina looking like a political cesspool? Duh!

31 posted on 06/03/2010 3:12:50 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: MBB1984

You have the call data records? Were they all phone calls? Or were they mostly SMS text messages? Or are we running on an assertion of 700 calls from someone with an agenda?

In other words, while I’m not from Missouri, Show Me. I don’t believe squat without more evidence than this.


32 posted on 06/03/2010 3:14:04 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: MBB1984

Link? What is the verifiability of his information, and what agenda might Folks have?


33 posted on 06/03/2010 3:16:36 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: MBB1984

“Circumstantial evidence is often the best and most compelling evidence.”

It pleases me no end that you are not my lawyer. Circumstantial evidence is frequently merely coincidental.

This is a good example:

You know that lines were busy between a phone to Folks (?) and Haley.

1. Was Folks on one end of the line?
2. Was Haley on the other end or was the other end manned by a staffer?
3. Was this a campaign phone or her personal phone?
4. What exactly was discussed?

All unkowns, yet you have decided that she is guilty of something or other. I will repeat, go work on a tough campaign first and then get back to us. This is not at all unusual for a pol.

Business practice has nothing to do with it.


34 posted on 06/03/2010 3:35:37 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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