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Burma is trying to build nuclear weapons and missiles, says US senator
The Times ^ | 6/4/2010 | Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 06/04/2010 8:34:47 AM PDT by markomalley

The Burmese Government is attempting to build nuclear weapons and long-range missiles, according to a military defector who smuggled photographs and documents of secret nuclear equipment out of the isolated dictatorship.

Evidence presented by the former Burmese officer and weapons engineer suggests that the country is still a long way from creating usable nuclear weapons. But the fact that it has even a nascent nuclear programme will cause international alarm at a time when the West is struggling to contain the ambitions of Iran and North Korea.

Jim Webb, the US senator, who in recent months has become an unofficial US envoy to Burma, yesterday cancelled a planned trip to Naypyidaw, the capital, because of concern about the reports of the defector’s testimony on the Norway-based news website, Democratic Voice of Burma. It comes after Kurt Campbell, the US assistant secretary of state, accused the Burmese junta of violating a UN resolution by allegedly buying arms from North Korea.

“It is unclear whether these allegations have substantive merit,” Mr Webb said in a statement. “However … there are now two unresolved matters related to activities of serious concern between these two countries. Until there is further clarification on these matters, I believe it would be unwise and potentially counterproductive for me to visit Burma.”

The information comes from Sai Thein Win, a former major in the Burmese Army, who is compared in the DVB report to Mordechai Vanunu, the whistleblower who was abducted and imprisoned by Israel after leaking secrets of its nuclear programme to The Sunday Times. The materials he provided have been scrutinised by Robert Kelley, a former director of the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: burma
And you thought the world was busy enough...
1 posted on 06/04/2010 8:34:47 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

” Jim Webb, the US senator, who in recent months has become an unofficial US envoy to Burma, “

With all of those congresscritters conducting their own foreign policy, why do we need the State Department??


2 posted on 06/04/2010 8:37:03 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

Sen. Jim Webb at least says what we need to know. He said the Sen. Armed Services Comm. should have waited for the military’s study before dumping “don’t ask, don’t tell” and now he is alerting us to another dictatorship like N. Korea working on A-Bombs. Our Hillary-care State Dept. won’t tell us the bad news or stand up for America.


3 posted on 06/04/2010 8:51:44 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Uncle Ike

Why is it that in Britain, they call it Burma, but here in the states, we have to call it Myanmar?


4 posted on 06/04/2010 8:51:55 AM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: markomalley

Burma is one of the poorest countries on earth. Seriously? How do these idiots get elected? Oh yeah, it’s a dictatorship. Dictators always seem to make such sound decisions.


5 posted on 06/04/2010 8:55:24 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas
They should stick to making shaving cream.

Be nice and clean, shave every day and you'll always look keen.

6 posted on 06/04/2010 8:56:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sicvee

Myanmar is the name that the military junta gave the country in the post-colonial years. It is not uncommon for nations to have 2 names. Britain is also known as the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands is also called Holland.


7 posted on 06/04/2010 8:59:54 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: dfwgator

Genius!


8 posted on 06/04/2010 9:00:59 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: markomalley

LOL!!! Do you really think, a piece of paper will stop any nation from developing a nuclear arsenal? What do you think Venezuela will be up to soon, along with Brazil and a couple of other South American countries. Its spreading, get use to it, the world is no longer a safe place, not that it ever was. America, France, England, Russia, China, Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea, soon Iran, the list keeps growing, and it will continue to grow. Looks like the planet will get a population enema in the future.


9 posted on 06/04/2010 9:03:39 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (THE CANDIDATE THE LEFT SMEARS THE MOST IS THE ONE THEY FEAR THE MOST.)
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To: markomalley
We're cutting back on ours though.

I mean it makes sense. If we need one we could just borrow it from one of our friends, right?

10 posted on 06/04/2010 9:16:27 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: dfwgator

I was just listening to this a couple hours ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQtYrQjgV3E


11 posted on 06/04/2010 9:18:29 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: markomalley
This is so frigging stupid-

NO SHIT!!!!!!!

All these little tin pot regimes are striving for that.

A nuke and a delivery method for them is a life insurance policy. Like N. Korea, they can sink a vessel, kill 46 Korean sailors, fire artillery onto S. Korean islands.....fire missiles over Japan, and the US will pretend like nothing happened, we'll make a speech or something laughable like that. Maybe Hillery can ask the Europeans how they negotiated with Iran and how that round or extra double dare negotiations went. lol The rouge nations out there realize that owning a nuke and delivery system makes the the Western free industrialized world reluctant to take any action. N. Korea, Libya, Syria, Iran, Burma....... all are on the same sheet of music with this. Israel built their arrow defense system to protect them against? Syrian missiles! What did Libya do in 1986 after we bombed them? They fired missiles onto Italy........... What was Saddam trying to do? What is Iran doing today? Iran is simply a big threat and in the media spot light, but this is in reality a "trend" that began nearly 20 some years ago. Already then we knew that the these rough states are heading in that general direction. This guy deserves the "Captain Obvious Award.

12 posted on 06/04/2010 9:23:52 AM PDT by Red6 (Where's my stuff? I want some more stuff too Mr. President!)
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To: markomalley

Every day during this administration another issue comes to light that won’t be addressed.


13 posted on 06/04/2010 9:30:03 AM PDT by b4its2late (Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?)
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To: Republic of Texas
It is a sound decision!

Why do you think no action has been taken about the intentional sinking of a South Korean ship, the shelling of South Korean islands, and the North's firing of missiles over Japan?

When these despots graduate from the “Dr. Evils institute of greater oppressive poverty and corruption,” they all know that they need a WMD and delivery system to keep the rest of the world at bay. Once they have a WMD, they know they immediately have to light one so the rest of the world knows they have them. Then they know they have to fire off longer range missiles, telling the world they have mastered the mechanics of exo-atmospheric flight and telemetry (orbital mechanics). Next they know they can do whatever they want and NO ONE will really do anything. They'll just give extra double dare speeches that sound really good!

14 posted on 06/04/2010 9:34:45 AM PDT by Red6 (Where's my stuff? I want some more stuff too Mr. President!)
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To: RicocheT

And it’ll trace back to either NK or Iran, two spokes in the axis of evil.


15 posted on 06/04/2010 9:35:26 AM PDT by b4its2late (Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?)
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To: pinochet

Isn’t there more to it though- Burma is how it has been known for decades.


16 posted on 06/04/2010 9:36:45 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: pinochet

They tried calling it “The Country Formerly Known as Burma”, but that didn’t quite work out.


17 posted on 06/04/2010 9:37:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley

Next thing you’re going to tell me is that the Duchy of Grand Fenwick is going to get the bomb.


18 posted on 06/04/2010 9:39:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Next thing you’re going to tell me is that the Duchy of Grand Fenwick is going to get the bomb.

No, but I hear Sealand is working on it...

19 posted on 06/04/2010 9:41:20 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley
The Burmese dictatorship has made a fetish out of self-reliance over the last 20 years, part of their program to isolate the country culturally and politically.

Myanmar military industries

They are very resourceful and have had some success in manufacturing military hardware like combat vehicles and small arms. They are completely self-sufficient in ammunition and most spare parts. A nuclear bomb is a big step from reverse-engineering the Humvee (one of their accomplishments) but these things have a way of building on each other as the infrastructure and basic knowledge expand.

20 posted on 06/04/2010 9:49:11 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: markomalley

I guess since they heard global warming got debunked and are no longer worried their country is sinking into the ocean, now they’ll turn their attention to - ya know - just building some nukes. All the cool countries have nukes.


21 posted on 06/04/2010 9:56:33 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: markomalley

Meh, just give every nation a nuke and be done with it....the UN and the IAEA are worthless in preventing nuclear proliferation and will be moreso once an NPT member...IRAN...acquires/builds their nukes.


22 posted on 06/04/2010 9:59:12 AM PDT by cranked
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To: markomalley
Through the sky...


lickety split...


nice city...


wasn't it?


Burma Shave Bomb
23 posted on 06/04/2010 10:02:27 AM PDT by domeika
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To: markomalley

WTF? Really? I dont think so. Who would they use them against? Their biggest borders are with China and India, both of which could reduce Burma to cinders with 1/10th of their military power.

The only other options are Bangaldesh, and Thailand. The former, well, if somebody nuked them, itd be better for the World, considering its a cesspool of poverty and Islam (A bad combo), and the latter, well, why would they want to nuke thailand? Did some junta leader discover that his last Suki Suki in thailand was done by a boytoy?


24 posted on 06/04/2010 10:22:40 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: RetroSexual
We're cutting back on ours though.

I mean it makes sense. If we need one we could just borrow it from one of our friends, right?

Wait, I'm confused...are you talking about our monetary policy?

25 posted on 06/04/2010 10:41:32 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: dfwgator

A peach is pretty
With lots of fuzz.
But man’s no peach
And never wuz.

BURMA SHAVE


26 posted on 06/04/2010 10:47:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: markomalley

A paranoid dictator wants nukes? Whowouldathunkit?


27 posted on 06/04/2010 11:03:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: markomalley

Burma wants to build nukes? Did they kidnap Professor Roy Hinkley from Gilligan’s Island to do the development? I mean, the guy could build a nuclear reactor from palm fronds, coconuts and a few sea shells, so why not?

But Burmese beware: Hinkley is a fraud! That’s right, a fraud! He couldn’t even patch a hole in a motorboat!


28 posted on 06/04/2010 11:09:53 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: markomalley
The Chinese are creating nuclear buffer states to shield them from Western political and commercial influence while allowing them to threaten their neighbors India, S Korea and Japan.
29 posted on 06/04/2010 2:10:40 PM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: dfwgator

"Penguins don't come from next door, they come from the Antarctic!"

"Burma!!"

".......Why'd you say Burma?

"I panicked."

30 posted on 06/05/2010 1:30:31 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: RicocheT
Jim Webb believes in “engagement” with these genocidal thugs. He only cancelled his trip because his new friends got caught once again with their hand in the cookie jar. They recently received an illegal shipment of missle parts from North Korea. The nuclear ambitions of the Burmese Junta have been widely known since they were reported by Dictator Watch in 2006.

The Orwellian named State Peace and Development Council (SPDC) is one of the worst regimes on the planet. They have destroyed their once beautiful country. They are engaged in the world’s longest running civil war, fighting against the Karen since 1948. They have destroyed over 3500 villages since 1995. Relocation camps, free fire zones, forced labor, use of human minesweepers, religeous persecution against Christians, and massive exports of meth and opium make this one of the worst regimes on earth.

They want nukes so they can be untouchable like North Korea.

31 posted on 06/05/2010 1:33:05 PM PDT by FBRhawk (Pray with faith, act with courage, never surrender!)
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To: markomalley

Burma is one weird place. You might hear their leader say something like, “Myanmar must have the finest high tech weapons in Asia. An astrologer told me so!”


32 posted on 06/05/2010 2:11:53 PM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: Red6
Next they know they can do whatever they want and NO ONE will really do anything. They'll just give extra double dare speeches that sound really good!

Yosemite Sam Pictures, Images and Photos

"I DOUBLE dares ya!"

33 posted on 06/05/2010 11:50:22 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (BORDERS, LAWS and LANGUAGE)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
"Burma!" "Why did you say Burma?" "I panicked."
Evidence presented by the former Burmese officer and weapons engineer suggests that the country is still a long way from creating usable nuclear weapons. But the fact that it has even a nascent nuclear programme will cause international alarm at a time when the West is struggling to contain the ambitions of Iran and North Korea... "It is unclear whether these allegations have substantive merit," Mr Webb said in a statement.
...meanwhile, North Korea and Iran continue nuclear weapons and ICBM development, while simultaneously supporting worldwide terrorism, and Zero does nothing.
34 posted on 06/06/2010 2:41:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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