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DeMint: Over 90 Percent of Bills Passed Secretly With No Debate,without a roll call vote.
youtube.com ^ | June 4, 2010 | Senator Jim DeMint

Posted on 06/04/2010 10:04:00 AM PDT by day21221

Senator Jim DeMint June 4, 2010

U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina) voiced concerns that the Senate passes over 90% of legislation without any debate, without amendment, and without a roll call vote. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B751mhY-QE&feature=player_embedded


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2manylaws; amendment; call; congress; corruption; democratcongress; democratcorruption; democrats; roll; vote

1 posted on 06/04/2010 10:04:00 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B751mhY-QE&feature=player_embedded


2 posted on 06/04/2010 10:04:32 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221

a package of 34 treaties, all of which were ratified by a show of hands — no recorded vote.

Posted: December 09, 2000

The U.N. Convention to Combat Desertification was ratified by the U.S. Senate on October 18, but few Senators yet know that it has been ratified. Senator Craig Thomas (R-WY) introduced a package of 34 treaties, all of which were ratified by a show of hands — no recorded vote.
Initially, Senator Thomas’ office told callers that the Senator had nothing to do with the ratification. On December 8, his office called to explain that Senator Thomas just happened to be on the Senate Floor late in the afternoon of October 18 — and was asked by the leadership to handle procedurally, the package of treaties. Senator Thomas has asked the Foreign Relations Committee to explain how, and why, the Desertification Treaty was included in the package.

At the recent climate change talks in the Hague, Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) said the treaty had not been ratified, until corrected by one of his staff. Phone calls to Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN), and other Senators, caught staffers off guard: Nobody knew how their boss voted on the ratification. They could not know — there was no recorded vote.

This treaty was signed by the Clinton administration in 1994. It has been locked up in the Foreign Relations Committee since. Normally, treaties of such monumental importance are debated in committee and then forwarded to the Senate floor for further debate and disposition.

Not this time. The treaty appeared in a package of 34 treaties — most of which were single-issue treaties with single nations, dealing with stolen vehicles, criminals, and the like. The Desertification Treaty, however, is not a single-issue treaty with a single nation.

This treaty is one of several environmental treaties that emerged from the 1992 U.N. Conference on Environment and Development in Rio de Janeiro. One of those treaties, the Convention on Climate Change, was ratified in 1992. The Convention on Biological Diversity failed ratification in 1994. The Convention to Combat Desertification was skillfully maneuvered through the Senate to avoid the public reaction which killed the Convention on Biological Diversity.

The Desertification Treaty claims jurisdiction over 70% of the earth’s land area — virtually all of the land that is not covered by the Convention on Biological Diversity. Moreover, this new treaty creates a structure through which all other environmental treaties are supposed to be integrated under a common United Nations implementation regime. A companion treaty is now being developed by the U.N. Commission on Water for the 21st Century. The United Nations is, in fact, creating the structure in international law and, through its extensive bureaucracies, to control the use of all natural resources on earth.

The U.S. Senate ratified the treaty on October 18, 2000 — whether or not it knew what it was doing. On November 17, the Clinton administration delivered the ratification documents to the United Nations. The United States is now bound by the international law that claims the power to dictate land use in 70% of the earth’s land.

The name of the treaty implies that it is concerned about deserts — in fact, it is concerned about all land use. To combat desertification, the treaty seeks to prevent land use that its enforcers think may lead to desertification. Converting forests to pasture, for example, or pasture to row crops, or crop land to subdivisions, are all uses that may lead to desertification, according to literature produced by the United Nations.

There is no distinction between federal land and privately owned land when it comes to land use under the jurisdiction of the U.N. The U.N. sees its role to be the establishment of policy — it is up to the participating nations to see that the policy is implemented. The recent rash of land acquisition measures promoted by the administration and Congress seeks to get more land under federal ownership. The vast expansion of regulatory control over land use by all federal agencies makes it easier for the United States to comply with its international obligations under a variety of international treaties. This new treaty extends even further the U.S. obligation to control land use.

According to the treaty itself, no reservations can be included in its ratification (Article 37). The Resolution of Ratification adopted by the Senate contains several reservations — all of which will be ignored by the United Nations.

Withdrawal from the treaty cannot even begin until after three years of participation — and then another year must pass before withdrawal is recognized by the U.N. — assuming, of course, that there is some desire in the Senate to withdraw.


3 posted on 06/04/2010 10:08:36 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221

I would love to see a DeMint/Christie or Christie/DeMint ticket and Bachmann land Speaker of the House.

I can dream...


4 posted on 06/04/2010 10:09:39 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: upchuck; pissant

DeMint Ping


5 posted on 06/04/2010 10:09:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: day21221
I would really like to see Jim DeMint run in the presidential primaries for 2012...

He's one of a handful that I think would do a great job in leading us to the restoration of our country.

6 posted on 06/04/2010 10:10:18 AM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Irenic

What a FINE dream!


7 posted on 06/04/2010 10:10:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Corruption


8 posted on 06/04/2010 10:11:17 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221

Nikki motivating DeMent?


9 posted on 06/04/2010 10:11:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: day21221

Institutionalized corruption.


10 posted on 06/04/2010 10:11:50 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

thanks for the TRUTH U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina)


11 posted on 06/04/2010 10:12:24 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221
DeMint: Over 90 Percent of Bills Passed Secretly With No Debate,without a roll call vote.

GOT THUGGERY?

12 posted on 06/04/2010 10:14:09 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: day21221

Unspeakably evil.


13 posted on 06/04/2010 10:14:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: day21221

Well all you have to do Jim, is be on the senate floor and deny unanimous consent. That’s all it takes. Yet none of the senators of either party want to put an end to this ridiculous process.

Have them call the roll, Senator. You can make them. You don’t want to either!


14 posted on 06/04/2010 10:14:59 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Hoodat

this has happen befor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__k89x_P3cw


15 posted on 06/04/2010 10:15:16 AM PDT by day21221
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To: Irenic
Well, there was a reason that this was said a long time ago (and it's not something peculiar to just this country ... LOL ...

Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made.
-- Otto von Bismarck

16 posted on 06/04/2010 10:15:34 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

House Cleaning


17 posted on 06/04/2010 10:15:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: cotton1706

Really? Interesting!


18 posted on 06/04/2010 10:16:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cotton1706

the truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fwqd3L3ZBU


19 posted on 06/04/2010 10:17:50 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221
Senator DeMint on the Bailout

We have seen this Government socialize our education system and make our schools among the worst in the world. We have seen this Government take over most of our health care system, making private insurance less and less affordable. We have seen this Government socialize our energy resources and bring our Nation to its knees by cutting the development of our own oil and natural gas supplies. And now we see this Congress yielding its constitutional obligations to a Federal bureaucracy, giving it the power to control virtually our entire financial system. Americans understand this and they are angry. They are our judge and our jury. They are watching what we are doing, and they will render their verdict based on our actions.

If we were honest with the American people and explained the failures that have led to this financial crisis, we might have the credibility to ask our citizens to allow us to borrow another $700 billion in their name to try to fix this problem. But we are not being honest. This problem was not created by our free enterprise system. It was created by us, the Congress and the Federal Government.


20 posted on 06/04/2010 10:18:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 9YearLurker

DeMint has some valid and great points.

Wyden tried and end run and was shut down. Good!


21 posted on 06/04/2010 10:19:09 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: day21221

These Senators are too busy using the perks of their office to bother showing up for a vote, and even if they do they probably havent read it.


22 posted on 06/04/2010 10:19:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: day21221
Why haven't McCain, Lindsey Graham and the others in “leadership” positions spoken out about this? Why is it left up to Senator DeMint? It appears that the other Republicans are either asleep at the wheel or complicit in all of this.

Senator DeMint has been one of the few voices for integrity in Washington.

23 posted on 06/04/2010 10:20:32 AM PDT by detective
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To: 9YearLurker

the truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM8XLDl_MTw


24 posted on 06/04/2010 10:20:50 AM PDT by day21221
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To: detective

Why haven’t McCain, Lindsey Graham and the others in “leadership” positions spoken out about this? Why is it left up to Senator DeMint? It appears that the other Republicans are either asleep at the wheel or complicit in all of this.
listen to all of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HodqhJS8jxE


25 posted on 06/04/2010 10:22:49 AM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221

“Why haven’t McCain, Lindsey Graham and the others in “leadership” positions spoken out about this? Why is it left up to Senator DeMint? It appears that the other Republicans are either asleep at the wheel or complicit in all of this.”

Well, McCain is too busy campaigning, like he’s been doing for the last 10 years. He didn’t earn the worst attendance/voting record in the Senate for nothin’!


26 posted on 06/04/2010 10:25:37 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: day21221

Legislation without representation. That’s despotism.

When do we stand up and declare, “Your writ doesn’t run here?” Adn back it up with force?


27 posted on 06/04/2010 10:28:56 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: day21221

what goes around comes around.


28 posted on 06/04/2010 10:31:29 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Allegra

Christie - Demint - Palin - Bachmann - Ryan - Cain - Brewer

I agree. Out with the old - in with the new.

New faces. New ideas. New debates. Renewed fervor for freedom, individualism, exceptionalism, patriotism. Let’s talk about flat taxes, fair taxes, abolishing the IRS, abolishing the education department, preserving our fundamental freedoms and the Bill of Rights. Let’s have that national conversation. Let’s change the media template of controlling phony debates and circular conversations designed to keep Americans fighting with each other.

If the Republicans run McCain, Romney, and Ron Paul I am staying home. Leave the moth balls at home.


29 posted on 06/04/2010 10:33:05 AM PDT by carmody
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To: day21221

The biggest affront to our liberties is Versailles on the Potomac. And among the worst abuses is the “unanimous consent” rule. The lords and ladies of the court find it unthinkable to object lest they would have to READ something to know what it is they are voting on.

After all, why bother knowing anything when the ultimate goal is to control us and strip our liberties away. And we, the stupid, keep selecting they, the ignorant, to perform unnatural acts on us.


30 posted on 06/04/2010 10:33:10 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Allegra

Hopefully he hasn’t cheated on his wife or tried to pick up boys.


31 posted on 06/04/2010 10:38:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: day21221

Then DeMint should publish all pieces of legislation that have been passed without a debate. Let him bring it out in the open.


32 posted on 06/04/2010 10:54:07 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM -- America's road to destruction.)
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To: day21221
If we manage to take the Senate and House, repeal all the bill King Obama has passed. It will take a 60 takeover of the Senate or pressure some of the communists RATS to change over.
33 posted on 06/04/2010 10:54:47 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: detective

All those establishment GOP senators supposedly object to DeMint’s ‘grandstanding’—as in they’d prefer he’d just keep quiet and go along with business as usual.


34 posted on 06/04/2010 10:55:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: day21221

the coup continues...


35 posted on 06/04/2010 11:03:28 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: day21221

Actually there were not ratified by a “show of hands”. The floor manager at the time would have said something along the lines of “Mr. President (here referring ot the President of the Senate, who in fact is usually a member of the majority party sitting in as acting President pro-tem) I ask for unanimous consent for the passage of the following as referred from committee...(list of bill numbers).” Unless a member vocally objects, the measures are passed.

The senate does not do shows of hands. You have to have your vote physically recorded during a roll call vote or a measure is passed via UC.


36 posted on 06/04/2010 11:05:14 AM PDT by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: cotton1706

Precisely. This is what Bunning did during what was so erroneously referred to as his “filibuster”.


37 posted on 06/04/2010 11:06:05 AM PDT by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: day21221

That clip is from 1994...
Ernest Hollings was an old-style democrat.
I wonder what he thinks about his party today.
He’s still living, apparently, at the ripe old age of 88.


38 posted on 06/04/2010 11:06:23 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Don't blame me. I voted for Jefferson Davis.)
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To: 353FMG

They are all available for review to anyone with an internet connection at www.thomas.gov


39 posted on 06/04/2010 11:07:40 AM PDT by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: day21221

This is outrageous! I guess I should expect the expose’ on this from the “Nightly News” and a full 60 Minutes report...any decade now.


40 posted on 06/04/2010 11:35:14 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: brothers4thID

Unless a member vocally objects, the measures are passed


41 posted on 06/04/2010 12:22:35 PM PDT by day21221
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To: day21221; alrea; americanophile; Babsig; Canticle_of_Deborah; Cheap_Hessian; ...
Big bump to the Senate's number one truth teller. I'm proudly voting for you next Tuesday, Jim.


Jim DeMint Ping!

Want on or off this ping list? Just FReepmail me.

Follow Sen. DeMint on Twitter.

Jim is running for reelection this November. If you like his philosophy, consider tossing him some bucks.

42 posted on 06/04/2010 12:50:32 PM PDT by upchuck (The last 4 letters in American: I Can; last 4 in in Republican: I Can; last 4 in in Democrats: RATS)
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To: day21221

BIG TIME complicit.


43 posted on 06/04/2010 1:01:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: day21221

“Over 90 Percent of Bills Passed Secretly With No Debate, without a roll call vote. “

They are doing this because (a) they control the Congress and Senate and (b) they are crooked sheisters. Did I spell sheister correctly?


44 posted on 06/04/2010 2:24:01 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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