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Whites in state 'below the replacement' level
San Francisco Chronicle / sfgate.com ^ | Saturday, June 5, 2010 | Justin Berton, Chronicle Staff Writer

Posted on 06/05/2010 10:41:01 AM PDT by thecodont

California's white population has declined since 2000 at an unprecedented rate, hastening the day when Hispanics will be the state's largest population group, according to newly released state figures.

There were half a million fewer whites in California in 2008 than in 2000, a period when the state's overall population grew by 4 million to 38.1 million, according to a study released Thursday by the state Department of Finance.

By 2008, whites made up 40 percent of Californians, down from 47 percent at the turn of the century. In 2000, Hispanics comprised 32 percent of the population; that number grew to 37 percent in 2008.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/05/MNSG1DQ1BL.DTL#ixzz0q09ppzzp

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: demographics; hispanics; lowbirth; population; welfare; whites; work
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1 posted on 06/05/2010 10:41:02 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

That’s because whites are busy working like fiends to support the welfare underclass and their twenty children.


2 posted on 06/05/2010 10:41:59 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: thecodont

Why would white people stay in Cali?


3 posted on 06/05/2010 10:44:31 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: thecodont

>There were half a million fewer whites in California in 2008 than in 2000, a period when the state’s overall population grew by 4 million to 38.1 million, according to a study released Thursday by the state Department of Finance.

And this surprises WHOM?
Even whites do not WANT to be slaves...


4 posted on 06/05/2010 10:46:41 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: thecodont

Do they qualify for Affirmative Action Programs now?


5 posted on 06/05/2010 10:47:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Niuhuru

That’s because whites are busy working like fiends to support the welfare underclass and their twenty children.

Apparently, it’s because CA whites don’t value children.


6 posted on 06/05/2010 10:49:13 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: Niuhuru

Sorry. It’s not that simple at all. There is also a VERY large degree of selfishness among whites, especially white middle/middle upper class.


7 posted on 06/05/2010 10:49:25 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: thecodont
Because they're leaving!
8 posted on 06/05/2010 10:50:14 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: thecodont

When whites and business move totally out of California....or Southern California, it will become just like Mexico City. Exactly what the Mexicans are leaving.

One day, Northern California will split off.....if they are smart. Then we will have Southern Mexifornia.


9 posted on 06/05/2010 10:51:07 AM PDT by RC2
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To: NucSubs
It’s not that simple at all. There is also a VERY large degree of selfishness among whites, especially white middle/middle upper class.

Do you mean that they manifest this selfishness by leaving Cali? Are you implying that if they were more selfless, they would stay, work, and support the burgeoning welfare clientele of Cali?

10 posted on 06/05/2010 10:51:47 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: NucSubs

Very true. Of all my friends, coworkers and acquaintances, I don’t know of any other race or ethnicity who wait until age 40 to have kids.


11 posted on 06/05/2010 10:53:03 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Given the number of extremist liberal/communist/socialist whites in California, I’m not sure I’d want them to reproduce.


12 posted on 06/05/2010 10:53:32 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Sounds like that is what is being said.


13 posted on 06/05/2010 10:53:40 AM PDT by comps4spice (Microsoft: Putting the MS in MSNBC)
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To: thecodont

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/05/MNSG1DQ1BL.DTL#ixzz0q09ppzzp

It’s not so much the RACE that bothers me.

It is the MINDSET of the Hispanics that is ANTI AMERICAN with third world country values that troubles me. What they LEFT in Mexico they WANT HERE with THEM in charge as top thugs.


14 posted on 06/05/2010 10:54:07 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: thecodont
Cool. Cali will finally be rid of the white hard-working productive tax-paying working-class and leave the "gimmes" to their Utopian model of Mexico. About time those Europeans got off their lands.

What? Spain (europeans) were there before the English? Guess all those who speak Spanish should revert back to some primitive tribe language, less they be hypocrites. I'll wait.

Viva La Raza! Long Live The Racists!

15 posted on 06/05/2010 10:54:25 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: A Navy Vet

16 posted on 06/05/2010 10:56:26 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: RC2

There are many whites remaining in places like Westwood, LaJolla, Beverly Hills, etc. The whites that are leaving are primarily those in mixed neighborhoods. Even businesses leave CA with their CEOs and owners still living in Westwood and LaJolla.

The Socialist dream: a two class system. The wealthy and the underclass fighting for the scraps.

Since many Latinos hate gays, let’s see how this plays out.


17 posted on 06/05/2010 10:57:18 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: freedomfiter2
Apparently, it’s because CA whites don’t value children.

Maybe to small extent, but really it's because CA whites are getting the hell out of Dodge as fast as they possibly can.

18 posted on 06/05/2010 10:57:51 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: NucSubs
"There is also a VERY large degree of selfishness among whites, especially white middle/middle upper class."

You betcha. We want to preserve our hard-earned standard-of-living - California Dream. But we ARE willing to share with those who follow the rules and don't expect handouts. Put me in the "selfish" column. Proud to be there.

19 posted on 06/05/2010 10:59:34 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: central_va
Do they qualify for Affirmative Action Programs now?

No. But the criminal illegal alien mexicans will be referred to as "majority-minorities" and continue to demand government attempt to buy their illegal votes and protest for their "rights."

They will demand “amnestia” so they can live and work in our racist, bigoted, Nazi-like country.

Dumbazz stupid to the BONE.

20 posted on 06/05/2010 11:00:04 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: thecodont
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
21 posted on 06/05/2010 11:01:58 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: thecodont

The Mexicanization of our homeland - George Bush Jr.’s dream come true!


22 posted on 06/05/2010 11:04:22 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (What (child) would Mohammad do?)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
"...but really it's because CA whites are getting the hell out of Dodge as fast as they possibly can."

That, but mostly because whites don't have the cultural need to mass reproduce (with possible exception of Mormons and hillbillys). It's a cultural thing. Yes, I am a culturalist. So what? You think all cultures are equal?

23 posted on 06/05/2010 11:04:28 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: thecodont

well..... homo couples don’t reproduce.... while hetro Mexicans do..... makes sense to me...


24 posted on 06/05/2010 11:07:06 AM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: thecodont

Euro-Americans are moving out and the illegal alien Mexicans are moving in. Give it about 20 more years and Mexico will be able to annex it back. Would Cali be considered a third world nation by now?


25 posted on 06/05/2010 11:08:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: central_va

Apparently not. My son just got told that he wasn’t qualified for an entry level part time job at a Lowes in SOCAL. But when I walk in the store, there are plenty other young nonwhite kids that don’t have a clue about what they are selling. I am seriously considering taking my white dollars somewhere else now.


26 posted on 06/05/2010 11:08:24 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: thecodont

Ok I give, which side is California.


27 posted on 06/05/2010 11:09:01 AM PDT by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: thecodont

The pockets that have been taken over (former white areas that have become Latino) in the San Fernando Valley are basically like a time warp. All of the retail and apartment areas are rarely improved and morp into used car lots, liquor stores and Mexican restaurants.

Reseda, Sun Valley and North Hollywood (north of Magnolia) resemble Tijuana, there are miles of blighted areas with thousands of illegal aliens.


28 posted on 06/05/2010 11:09:52 AM PDT by wac3rd (Gulf oil spews...Obama sues.)
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To: thecodont

They’re only worried about this because they are losing their tax base.


29 posted on 06/05/2010 11:11:42 AM PDT by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

No immigration laws there after the takeover. It will be a flood far worse than what we have seen thus far.


30 posted on 06/05/2010 11:12:05 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: NucSubs
Sorry. It’s not that simple at all. There is also a VERY large degree of selfishness among whites, especially white middle/middle upper class.

Yeah....perhaps, but if you call being able to afford the monthly payments on 2 typical brown-wrapper $30K autos, insurance(s), rents, mortgages, etc., who in the hell can afford to have children?

31 posted on 06/05/2010 11:12:28 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: thecodont

Personally, I’m in full Atlas Shrugged mode. I think all white people should cease reproducing, period. This planet is overwhelmed with looters, all banding together in a racial-politics movement that blames us for everything that is wrong in their lives, and demands everything we work for be handed over to them. I am done with humanity.


32 posted on 06/05/2010 11:14:33 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (If one racist Tea-Partier proves all conservatives hate, what do 500 Muslim suicide bombers prove?)
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To: thecodont
Amazing, isn't it? And we should be ashamed for bettering ourselves because why?

I've been on the forefront of this illegal thing since back in my late 80's Navy days when I lived 3 miles from Tiajuana and had to chase illegals off my property, less they continue to scare my children and steal and destroy my property in the dead of night - I lived on a cul-de-sac which was inline with their migration route.

33 posted on 06/05/2010 11:16:48 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: Rappini

This is a view along the border looking west.


34 posted on 06/05/2010 11:17:49 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: A Navy Vet

OK...but there are 5 million fewer whites than in 2000, deaths don’t account for anything like that number, so that part of it is out-migration. And no, I don’t think all cultures are equal at all, not even close. Islam is great example of a dramatically inferior culture. And I don’t have the least problem with you being a culturist — sounds interesting.


35 posted on 06/05/2010 11:21:34 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: thecodont

Steyn knows


36 posted on 06/05/2010 11:21:37 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The real death threat is their legislation" Rush Limbaugh, 3/25/10)
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To: nmh
"It’s not so much the RACE that bothers me. It is the MINDSET of the Hispanics that is ANTI AMERICAN with third world country values that troubles me. What they LEFT in Mexico they WANT HERE with THEM in charge as top thugs."

Don't believe they want "thugs", but they definitely have a different cultural mindset. There are many places in Southern California that have long mirrored the trashy ghettos they left behind in Mexico. It's a simple reality of differing cultural standards. Interestingly, other Latino cultures don't have a similar mindset. Seems to be predominant of Mexico and some other countries in central America. Again, culture, not ethnicity.

37 posted on 06/05/2010 11:25:04 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: thecodont
It's California; who gives a crap. They have brought all of their problems on themselves by being the most depraved State in the Union ever since the 1960s.
My advice to the good people of CA, get out of there are establish yourself somewhere else. I got tired of the tax and spend Liberalism in Michigan 20 years ago and got my family out of there. Best move I ever made.
38 posted on 06/05/2010 11:25:44 AM PDT by no dems (I never thought I could loathe anyone more than the Clintons; enter Barack Hussein Obama.)
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The 2000s saw for the first time in California history a net domestic migration out of California. The population grew because of legal and illegal immigration and their kids born here. Just check the U-haul rates out of California vs. into California.


39 posted on 06/05/2010 11:26:20 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: thecodont

Which side of that image is the United States?


40 posted on 06/05/2010 11:26:28 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Renkluaf
Because they're leaving!

Been there, done that. Left nine years ago. Many of my friends did the same.

The wife and I don't miss it at all (except for a few friends who haven't left yet). We left because we wanted to raise a family but did not want to raise them in CA.

41 posted on 06/05/2010 11:28:45 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: A_perfect_lady
"Personally, I’m in full Atlas Shrugged mode. I think all white people should cease reproducing, period. This planet is overwhelmed with looters, all banding together in a racial-politics movement that blames us for everything that is wrong in their lives, and demands everything we work for be handed over to them. I am done with humanity."

I have said the same thing to my spouse, repeatedly. My compassion has limits. Hell, I have more compassion for my dog than I do for the no-loads of mankind.

42 posted on 06/05/2010 11:30:59 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: A Navy Vet

I was stationed at NAS Imperial Beach in the ‘70’s. I was told while standing watch NOT to challenge anyone walking across the ramp approaching from the south, but just go call for help. Apparently there had been cases of some poor watch stander getting beaten by migrants.


43 posted on 06/05/2010 11:35:33 AM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: whitedog57

Latinos REALLY don’t like blacks,look at the take over of black neighborhood’s by Latinos in Los Angles.


44 posted on 06/05/2010 11:38:13 AM PDT by Mtn Pass
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To: thecodont
By 2008, whites made up 40 percent of Californians, down from 47 percent at the turn of the century

Good luck keeping that welfare state going once whitey leaves. See Detroit as an example.

45 posted on 06/05/2010 11:43:34 AM PDT by Minipax
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All Whites in 2010 will be Mormons or Hillbillies.

Take a look at Israel, Secular Jews will lose control of the country due to low birth rate.

46 posted on 06/05/2010 11:44:31 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: thecodont

I look forward to the day when benevolent hispanic majorities trip all over themselves to help out the white minority in California....


47 posted on 06/05/2010 11:46:26 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Work harder! People on welfare depend on you!)
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To: thecodont

They had white flight from the racist state of California a long time ago. There will be more as the diversity racism is still dominate in California. It will be looking and acting Mexican all the way soon.


48 posted on 06/05/2010 11:48:06 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: thecodont

This is due to a combination of factors....but the contraceptive and abortive mentality is strong in CA.


49 posted on 06/05/2010 11:48:13 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RC2

This is exactly what happens when immigrants do not assimilate into society and instead bring their society to us. They leave there to come here because it’s better and then spend all their time insisting we make here more like there. Complete insanity.


50 posted on 06/05/2010 11:48:40 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Work harder! People on welfare depend on you!)
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