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Should This Be the Last Generation? (asks Peter Singer)
New York Times ^ | June 6, 2010 | Peter Singer

Posted on 06/07/2010 5:18:02 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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Most thoughtful people are extremely concerned about climate change. Some stop eating meat, or flying abroad on vacation, in order to reduce their carbon footprint. But the people who will be most severely harmed by climate change have not yet been conceived. If there were to be no future generations, there would be much less for us to feel to guilty about.

So why don’t we make ourselves the Last Generation on Earth? If we would all agree to have ourselves sterilized then no sacrifices would be required — we could party our way into extinction!

Of course, it would be impossible to get agreement on universal sterilization, but just imagine that we could. Then is there anything wrong with this scenario? Even if we take a less pessimistic view of human existence than Benatar, we could still defend it, because it makes us better off — for one thing, we can get rid of all that guilt about what we are doing to future generations — and it doesn’t make anyone worse off, because there won’t be anyone else to be worse off.

Is a world with people in it better than one without? Put aside what we do to other species — that’s a different issue. Let’s assume that the choice is between a world like ours and one with no sentient beings in it at all. And assume, too — here we have to get fictitious, as philosophers often do — that if we choose to bring about the world with no sentient beings at all, everyone will agree to do that. No one’s rights will be violated — at least, not the rights of any existing people. Can non-existent people have a right to come into existence?

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Peter Singer is a Princeton professor who has advocated the infanticide of disabled infants. Now he advocates the extinction of mankind.

Reading about American "higher education" often enrages me. My wife and I have the bizarre notion that universities should help students appreciate Western civilization and prepare students for rewarding (financially, and if possible, intellectually) careers. Our lives revolve around providing for and educating our children. We're supposed to pay $50K a year to Princeton to subsidize a professor who would demoralize our children, trying to persuade them that there is something wrong with the basic human desire to marry and procreate? Go to hell, Princeton, and take Singer with you.

1 posted on 06/07/2010 5:18:02 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Liberals first.....


2 posted on 06/07/2010 5:19:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every time history repeats itself the price goes up)
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To: wagglebee

Ping.


3 posted on 06/07/2010 5:20:04 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: silverleaf

I’ve got a better idea Professor. Why don’t you just make yourself the last generation of your line. Like tomorrow...or better yet, today.


4 posted on 06/07/2010 5:20:42 AM PDT by pgkdan (I Miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: reaganaut1; All
You know what I always say to these types?

"You first..."

5 posted on 06/07/2010 5:23:27 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into America's Twilight...)
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To: reaganaut1

why is it that those who think this

fly and drive cars?


6 posted on 06/07/2010 5:23:36 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: reaganaut1

Liberals hate humanity and they hate God. All of their philosophy comes from these two points.


7 posted on 06/07/2010 5:24:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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8 posted on 06/07/2010 5:25:03 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: reaganaut1

Something labeled from the NYT and written by Singer is just too much socialist stupidity for me to stomach this morning. Ugh.


9 posted on 06/07/2010 5:25:24 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: reaganaut1

Peter Singer.... too much LSD


10 posted on 06/07/2010 5:26:21 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: reaganaut1

“Most thoughtful people are extremely concerned about climate change.”

The Earth is not thoughtful, and is unconcerned about climate change.


11 posted on 06/07/2010 5:27:36 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: reaganaut1
Most thoughtful people are extremely concerned about climate change.

Couldn't get past that sentence. It's 59F at my hacienda in SE Tennessee this morning. Ordinarily, it would be in the low 70's. Our high temps for the next three weeks aren't supposed to go above the upper 80's. High temps this time of year would ordinarily be in the low to mid 90's. 'Scuse me, Mr. Singer, but where is that Globull Warming you nitwits keep talking about?

12 posted on 06/07/2010 5:27:44 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: reaganaut1

Lead the way, Pete. You first, mmmkay?


13 posted on 06/07/2010 5:28:22 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: reaganaut1

“If so, what factors entered into your decision? Was it whether having children would be good for you, your partner and others close to the possible child, such as children you may already have, or perhaps your parents? “
Not only is this Singer fellow a nihilist and psychopath, he is a terrible writer as evidenced by the above sentence. How any family could send their kid to Princeton is beyond me. It seems nearly every Ivy League school has maniacal professors whose atheism and deceitfulness serve to influence young minds for evil purposes.


14 posted on 06/07/2010 5:28:37 AM PDT by sueuprising
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To: reaganaut1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer Singer's parents were Viennese Jews who escaped the German annexation of Austria and fled to Australia in 1938. They settled in Melbourne, where Singer was born. His grandparents were less fortunate: his paternal grandparents were taken by the Nazis to Łódź, and were never heard from again; his maternal grandfather died in Theresienstadt.[2] He has a sister, Joan (now Joan Dwyer). Singer's father imported tea and coffee, while his mother practiced medicine. ________________________________________________________ No mention of wife or kids...his psyche is surely damaged goods.
15 posted on 06/07/2010 5:28:51 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: reaganaut1

OK, I puked on the first sentence.

This tripe is getting annoying. Isn’t it time for these idiots to move on to their next scam?


16 posted on 06/07/2010 5:30:14 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: reaganaut1
Most thoughtful people are extremely concerned about climate change....

Obviously this statement would be completely false if the word "thoughtful" were left out. However, I'm sure that the definition of "thoughtful" in Singer's view is quite different than what you'd find in your copy of Webster's. It obviously refers to the few percent of the population that shares Singer's "enlightened" views.

17 posted on 06/07/2010 5:30:27 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: sodpoodle

Please! Someone near this fool take his dissertation (assuming he wrote one) and smack him alongside the head several times. This anti-intellectual freak needs a check-up-from-the-neck-up.


18 posted on 06/07/2010 5:31:22 AM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) amounts through the internet from all over the world.)
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To: reaganaut1

You first, bucko.


19 posted on 06/07/2010 5:31:46 AM PDT by RockinRight (I can see November from here!)
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To: reaganaut1

This is the kind of shit that leads to the gulags and gas chambers, and we are getting a torrent of it lately. The tyrants-in-waiting are being emboldened enough to come out in the light. There is a huge evil starting to awaken in this country.


20 posted on 06/07/2010 5:32:15 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: reaganaut1
Most thoughtful stupid people are extremely concerned about climate change.

It's a terrible thing that there is such a person as Peter Singer in the world, but there's only one of him, while there are a LOT of Christian homeschoolers with really big families. Taste the ash-heap of history, Peter. The future looks like me.

21 posted on 06/07/2010 5:32:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Internet. It makes me laugh.)
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To: reaganaut1

A few years ago, I actually heard someone, maybe this guy, on Michael Medved’s show advocating for the ‘Voluntary Human Extinction Program’. I enjoy asking Liberals if they support this cause.


22 posted on 06/07/2010 5:32:44 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Liberals hate humanity and they hate God. All of their philosophy comes from these two points."

Bingo, we have a winner! Man, did you hit the nail on the head with that assessment!

23 posted on 06/07/2010 5:34:48 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: sodpoodle
No mention of wife or kids...his psyche is surely damaged goods.
I'm not going to search for a link but I'm certain that Singer has also made arguments for bestiality as long as the animal "consents". Nuts. :-(
24 posted on 06/07/2010 5:38:14 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: ken21

Just like the Peta folks who wear leather shoes.


25 posted on 06/07/2010 5:38:29 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: reaganaut1

Should this be the last geneation? I say, Let’s start small with a Stop the Drivelators campaign, Singer being the first. Today the Drivelators, Tomorrow, Their Drivel!!!!


26 posted on 06/07/2010 5:38:49 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Liberals hate humanity and they hate God. All of their philosophy comes from these two points.

A long-running joke is that Liberals "love humanity; it's just people they can't stand". The truth of the matter, as you point out, is that they are self-loathing creatures who deny God and all his works. Carried to its logical extreme, the Progressive philosophy is suicidal and destructive, pretending to "save" humanity by means of destroying its fundamental institutions (such as marriage), and by exercising state power to control the actions and even thoughts of individuals.

27 posted on 06/07/2010 5:44:28 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: reaganaut1

Dear Peter Singer:

1) Place plastic bag over head
2) Tie plastic bag firmly around neck
3) inhale and exhale often
4) Close your eyes
5) Go to the light and meet your maker.


28 posted on 06/07/2010 5:45:42 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: reaganaut1

All you need to know about the foolhardy jackass peter singer:

http://www.nerve.com/opinions/singer/heavypetting

This is proof that for the most part, ivy league schools are asylums where narcissistic lunatics are paid to transform sane youths into mini-me narcissistic lunatics.


29 posted on 06/07/2010 5:46:42 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Tunehead54

You are correct - his thinking is putrid - from abortion to this:

Zoophilia
In a 2001 review of Midas Dekker’s Dearest Pet: On Bestiality, Singer argues that sexual activities between humans and animals that result in harm to the animal should remain illegal, but that “sex with animals does not always involve cruelty” and that “mutually satisfying activities” of a sexual nature may sometimes occur between humans and animals, and that writer Otto Soyka would condone such activities.[26] The position was countered by fellow philosopher Tom Regan, who writes that the same argument could be used to justify having sex with children. Regan writes that Singer’s position is a consequence of his adapting a utilitarian, or consequentialist, approach to animal rights, rather than a strictly rights-based one, and argues that the rights-based position distances itself from non-consensual sex.[27] The Humane Society of the United States takes the position that all sexual molestation of animals by humans is abusive, whether it involves physical injury or not.[28]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer


30 posted on 06/07/2010 5:47:13 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: reaganaut1
So why don’t we make ourselves the Last Generation on Earth?

You first.

31 posted on 06/07/2010 5:47:48 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: reaganaut1

A far better question to Singer’s “why are there people in the world?” is: why are there people like Singer in the world? Does Singer provide a useful existence, or is he merely taking up space which could be used, say, to teach ill-prepared college students how to compose proper sentences? You can guess my answer to that one.


32 posted on 06/07/2010 5:48:40 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: reaganaut1

Niche would envy his nihilism.


33 posted on 06/07/2010 5:49:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: reaganaut1
Singer is a fraud and a hypocrite, as well as an advocate for mass murder. He kept his aged mother alive in a nursing home for years. When it was pointed out to him that this wasn't in keeping with his publicly professed "kill anything human" "ethic", his response was, "It's different, when it's your own mother."
34 posted on 06/07/2010 5:50:11 AM PDT by Campion
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We should all send Peter Singer a handgun

(Peter Singer) Is he a one note wonder?


35 posted on 06/07/2010 5:52:05 AM PDT by listenhillary (You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
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To: NewHampshireDuo

“...most thoughtful people...”

That’s a classic logical fallacy, a bandwagon appeal. In other words, you aren’t thoughtful if you don’t believe what Singer and “thoughtful” people believe.


36 posted on 06/07/2010 5:52:11 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Is Sarah Palin REALLY a conservative or just another Republican?)
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To: reaganaut1

Climate causing the damage???

How about communists like Peter Singer???

Obama and all his muslim associates are the ones causing the death to the world.


37 posted on 06/07/2010 5:52:20 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Campion

Jeffrey Dahmer with a college degree.


38 posted on 06/07/2010 5:52:25 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; steelyourfaith

GW PING


39 posted on 06/07/2010 5:56:36 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: reaganaut1
Most liberals like him have many of Hitlers ideas.
Scary people.
40 posted on 06/07/2010 5:56:43 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: sodpoodle

How in the Good Lords name can an animal consent? Buy this idiot a drink in some Zoophilia themed bar?

Liberalism really is a mental disorder.


41 posted on 06/07/2010 6:00:16 AM PDT by Brytani (Allen West for Congress!!! Go Allen!!!! www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: silverleaf

I think this is what they are doing. Liberal Jews and Christian have far fewer children than religious Jews and Christians. Of course, this is why they want control of the universities: to persuade our children also to commit to the notion that this life is all there is, and that they ought to devote themselves to enjoying it as much as possible and leave no progeny. They flatter themselves that their legacy is a better world, when it is more likely to be universal slavery/barbarism. For nature will not be mocked, because it is God’s creation, not theirs.


42 posted on 06/07/2010 6:11:40 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: reaganaut1

Regarding Peter Singer:

“The first effect of not believing in God, is that you lose your common sense.” GK Chesterton


43 posted on 06/07/2010 6:13:51 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: LadyPilgrim

Ping to LP

TH54, the term I had read somewhere was that “as long there was no harm to the animal”.

I have been watching this guy for awhile and knew he would mainstream with this administration.

My thoughts are that if this piece his not his opus to the world, then it should be. If he wants to lead this cause, then lead by example.


44 posted on 06/07/2010 6:14:45 AM PDT by del4hope (When they came for Arizona........)
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To: Tunehead54

I meant to ping you to post #44


45 posted on 06/07/2010 6:15:27 AM PDT by del4hope (When they came for Arizona........)
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To: Thermalseeker
"Ordinarily, it would be in the low 70's. Our high temps for the next three weeks aren't supposed to go above the upper 80's. High temps this time of year would ordinarily be in the low to mid 90's."

Interesting data. The "keepers of temperature records" are already gearing up to pronounce 2010 "the hottest year on record". But we here in Washington state certainly are not having such a year. Now you say that in a completely different US location, a similar trend is happening.

I wonder "where" exactly these high temperatures are happening. I'll make a guess.....in remote locations where there are no people around to argue with the falseness of the AGW claims.

46 posted on 06/07/2010 6:23:19 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: reaganaut1
I am 100% behind the idea of liberals sterilizing themselves.
47 posted on 06/07/2010 6:25:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Ditto.


48 posted on 06/07/2010 6:25:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: reaganaut1

Imagine the great fun we could have tearing it all down. The only worry is what will the next sentient apex predator to come along in a few million years be like.


49 posted on 06/07/2010 6:28:19 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Flip Both Houses)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Nary a sunspot to be seen. We’re DEEP in a solar minimum that is showing no signs of letting up. That’s what these so-called “Climatologists” should be paying attention to.......


50 posted on 06/07/2010 6:30:29 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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