Posted on 06/07/2010 10:29:46 AM PDT by inkling
Adama certainly did not try to get along with the Cylons! He was a little bit less crazed than Admiral Cain in the new one, but he was ‘kill em all’ until the very very end when the fight was basically over.
“Thuuuu Rifleman....starring Chuck Connors....”
Bum bum de da da da....
awww crap, that was more than 25 years ago...sorry...
If it went back 50 years, I’d pick “The Andy Griffith Show”. (with the caveat and understanding that both Andy and Opie turned into linguini spined libs, gaga over the kenyan in ‘08)
You’re right on all counts (I did know Neil was gay. Never mind, he’s got a great voice, should go to Broadway now, do not pass GO). I’ve been revelling in the old seasons of NCIS on USA, having discovered it because I got overtired of Bones (just one channel away at TNT). The problem with both shows is part of the downside of what made them rich in the early middle: when they opened up the metanarrative to relatives, friends, etc., you start getting soapy. If you keep it tight (as Bones did with Max, for instance), then it works and only makes the show better. When you do it as a stunt (like casting Zooey as a Franklin-obsessed ninny), then it looks dumb. I think the current Mexico thread has real potential, but only if they really put people in the true amount of danger involved. ‘Rule 51’ punked out, for instance, IMHO.
Highly underrated, short-lived great. Wonderful characters, humor and imagination there.
If anyone hasn’t seen it check it out on DVD.
Oh yeah! Since 1985!
TV was on the slouch by then....Although I loved Unsolved Mysteries....
Yes but Andy Griffith lived his life as a Conservative.....
He just got Old.....
An off-the-wall honorable mention here: Star Trek, The Next Generation.
The first couple of seasons were painfully New-Agey (and sometimes just plain painful), but later eps had several outstanding episodes touting conservative themes.
One of my very favorites was the two-parter “Birthright”, in which Worf refuses not only to give up his values and way of life to fit in with the touchy-feely, kumbayah Romulan-Klingon prison camp, but also works to undermine the camp itself.
Hogan’s Heroes
Capitalism at its best. From within the confines of a Nazi POW camp Hogan and his group were able to sell anything from nylons to whiskey, and made a nice profit.
Oh! and F-Troop
Sarge and Agarn could teach Donald Trump a thing or two about capitalism.
Before the cylons attacked in the pilot of the miniseries he was at some ceremony or other - something to do with the decommisioning of the Galactica. The woman who was education secretary who became president was there. He went off on his speech about Moral Relativism and maybe the Cylons were mean because the humans were - made me sick to my stomach. That President chic stood up and clapped awwww. Adam changed his tune after the attack there was a funny interaction when he called the President “that school teacher”.
again after the pilot i watched an episode here and there and all i kept seeing was liberal parables.
maybe i caught it at off times but i did not see one iota of conservatism
“Burn Notice”. How can you argue with a show where the female lead says, “Well, in my experience, if something seems to good to be true, it’s best to shoot it just in case?”
That was a fun show. The complete series is available via Netflix.
Well, I liked that his ‘goody times’ speech was blasted literally out of the sky. Remember, this was a post 9/11 show from the start. It happened to echo the first show as well, a bolt from the blue attack after years of peace and people got complacent just like we did. That’s how I took it at least, it had mixes of both lib and con, but a balance of con/lib and mostly con kept them going.
I’m probably gonna get booted for this but here goes...
How about Kitchen Nightmares by Gordon Ramsay? Granted, he’s a foul-mouthed, crude SOB and it’s certainly not for the kids BUT looking past all that, he’s a true free-market capitalist who’s not above holding others accountable for doing a half-assed job.
ok, I’m running for cover now.
24, Firefly. And The Big Bang Theory is ROFL funny.
I remember when the writers of NCIS went all pro-muslim
on one episode. The bad guy was an evangelical christian
brother who killed his older brother who had converted to
muslim (religion-so called). Not so conservative in my
opinion.
While Quincy was cool on a CSI level, it almost always seemed like he was on a mission to get more government control/intervention (rafts on airplanes, drunk driving laws, etc...) not more personal responsibility. Of course, as a kid, I didn’t know any better, I just liked the show.
I can’t look at Bob Crane without thinking of him with his head bashed in. :(
It turned to crap with the third season. That’s when it became a parable about Iraq, with the Cylons as the US. They even had one say, “Did you think the humans would welcome us with hearts and flowers?” Even when they got back away from current politics, it was just not very good from that point until the end.
Like That 70’s Show, the last couple of seasons were sub-par compared to the first couple of seasons.
Outside of this discussion, one show I like and catch it when I can on RTV is ‘It Takes A Thief’. There was an episode where Robert Wagner, Ricardo Montalban and Bill Russell (yes that one - the Celtic) were in it. Wow, what a combo!
That’s one I let the kiddies stay up on weekends & watch - my oldest (off at college, still watches when she’s home for a visit)
Red had some of the best lines in all of television
Harold! You gotta stop reading those history books that were written by Joan Biaz."
"This tire went flat when it drove over a nail or a yawning animal or something."
Plus he made a zamboni out of a K car
I’m not sure Family Ties was trying to be conservative. They let Alex have some good moments here and there, but his views were usually shown to be cold and incorrect. Plus, I knew he wasn’t a real conservative when he was in a sweat trying to decide whether his ultimate conservative hero was Reagan or Nixon.
I got the DVDs not long after release. My wife learned to love the series too.
NCIS: Get rid of the lawyer (ick), get back to supporting the US military. I think the writers are trying to attract the Oprah crowd, forgetting about us folks that cling to our God and guns. (By the way, our daughter classifies programs and movies by a ratio of GUNS, GUTS and GUYS).
Tour of Duty is missing from that list. I'd make an argument for The Sentinel as well. Human Target looks promising from what I've seen so far.
I'd call 24 more balanced than conservative until its most recent years where it tilts left. The most conservative part of 24 and what it did best is the dealing with the bureaucrats. I thought Jack himself was apolitical, a soldier.
Of the list, Magnum PI is about the best there was on that. It was respectful of veterans, the cast comes off as regular people.
I’d put Deep Space Nine in there. Sisko was the least PC of any captain other than Kirk. Plus, I might not have been a fan of what Ron Moore did with Battlestar, but he injected capitalism directly into the Star Trek world on DS9. Plus, religion finally got a somewhat fair shake, even if it wasn’t our own (though, Sisko’s father did something shocking on one episode—he quoted the Bible).
I remember that show. I was sad to see it canceled.
You should like his new gig on Burn Notice, as well. Second banana but very strong character.
NO QUINCY.. that rotten SOB was as anti-gun as it gets. That is an immediate DQ from being conservative.
And all of the villians were evil, greedy corporate types that had to be regulated into niceness by a new beuracracy.
BR>And Sam did all the work anyway.
Two Words: COP ROCK!
*just kiddin'*
I have a theory that, for the majority of Americans who were born between 1937 & ‘97, their favorite shows were originally aired when they were teenagers. I took a poll of 15-20 people, and I was correct for about 2/3 of them. My siter-in-law was born in 1962, and her favorite show is “Mork & Mindy,” which was shown, 1978-’82. I worked with someone who was born in 1974, and his favorite show is “The Simpsons,” which has been shown since 1990. I worked with someone who was born in 1961, and his favorite show is “All in the Family.”
You would think that SnakeDoc ... :-)
Seriously, I wondered why “The Unit” wasn’t in the top 10 at least.
Yeah, I loved Quincy, but let’s not make him out as some crusading conservative. As the series aged, episodes were more likely than not to conclude with Quincy testifying in some hearing (or screaming at his bosses) about the need for regulation, etc. But I still loved the show.
Same works for music. The stuff you listened to in high school is the “good stuff” for your life. Sure, you can add more into the mix, but for me, the defining year is 1984, the year I graduated HS.
I can’t believe no one has mentioned Babylon 5 yet.
Government taken over by an autocrat, after assassinating the President everyone liked? Check.
New administration creates an actual “Ministry of Peace” lifted directly from “1984” including the MiniPax nickname? Check.
Brownshirts: Night Watch? Check.
Secret Police: Psi Corps? Check.
And then you see the resistance against intrusive government. Always a high premium put on personal responsibility (Franklin’s drug use, Garibaldi’s drinking, both overcome on their own). Always a focus on the individual. The realization by the Minbari that fighting is sometimes necessary. The expulsion of both the Vorlons and the Shadows, as being representative of another form of controlling government.
I do agree with your hypothesis, though. It makes sense to prefer the shows that you watched during your formative years.
I agree with your post except for that. Both had a whole bunch of support from friends. Unless I am reading you wrong and you are referring to gubmint help.
They did have help from friends, though Franklin’s walkabout seemed to be the mechanism that really got him over his, but yes, overall, it was individuals, and not huggy-feely assistance programs that solved their problems.
I agree, about music. I was born in 1967, and I like many singers who were popular between 1980 & ‘85, including Billy Joel, Styx, Foreigner, and Kenny Rogers. I dislike most music that was released since then.
Of course, I haven't had a drink in almost 22 years due to one of those "huggy-feely" programs (AA) but you go ahead and discount them. 8^)
Yes, and at the conclusion of each episode, conservative Alex learned a lesson from his liberal parents.
I wouldn't call the show conservative, since liberalism nearly always trumped conservatism in the show.
Alex was nothing more than a younger, more educated Archie Bunker.
Barney Miller, its in reruns and still good. Not dated and 30 years old....Becker is still a laughable old series...
You know I’m not talking about AA. I’m talking about the kinds of “all talk no action” social programs you always see from the government, where your problems are entirely the fault of someone or something else, so you’re not responsible. AA makes one admit that the problem is entirely one’s own fault, and that one must take responsibility for one’s own actions.
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