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To: Piranha

I am not sure why you are defending this man. He has been convicted of many counts of bank fraud, he very certainly knew that hundreds of illegal aliens were working at his plant. He beat the child labor rap by claiming ignorance. None of this makes him innocent or deserving of the title rabbi.


20 posted on 06/07/2010 7:19:29 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

I am defending him because he was the victim of a witch-hunt. Agriprocessors was raided because illegal aliens worked there, yet nobody ever was prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens. After the raid (which came following a letter from his attorney to ICE telling ICE that the company was aware that there were illegals working there and asking to cooperate to resolve the situation) the company was forced out of business and into bankruptcy.

The only case that arose out of employment issues at the plant was the state case which was brought for hiring minors. Rabbi Rubashkin was charged personally in that case and the jury found him not guilty on EVERY SINGLE CHARGE based on the prosecutors’s failure to demonstrate that he knew that minors worked there.

The bulk of the charges for which Rabbi Rubashkin was convicted in the federal court had to do with the illegals who worked at the factory. The government alleged (and the jury agreed) that he signed bring-down certificates to the bank in connection with the company’s revolving loan in which he stated that the company was not in violation of any material laws. Later, the court alleged that the company was in violation of laws against hiring illegal aliens, and he was indicted and found guilty on multiple counts.

Because the case was about bank fraud and not about hiring illegal aliens, he was not able to defend himself by demonstrating that he was not aware that illegals worked there.

By the logic of the court, any executive who signs a bring-down certificate for a bank in connection with a revolving line of credit for his company can be found criminally liable AND JAILED if it turns out that at the time he signed the document the company was committing acts that later were found to be illegal!

The state case is highly significant. It demonstrates a failure of due process, in that Rabbi Rubashkin was denied the opportunity to defend against the charge of knowingly employing illegal aliens at Agriprocessors. This would have been critically important to his case since he won the only case that relates to his company’s employment practices. Presumably, if he had been afforded the opportunity to defend himself directly against the charges relating to the company’s hiring of illegal aliens he would have won on those charges as well.


21 posted on 06/08/2010 9:02:53 AM PDT by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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