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Van der Sloot confesses to Peru slaying
NBC News and news services ^ | June 8, 2010

Posted on 06/07/2010 9:17:37 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

LIMA, Peru - A high-ranking Peruvian government official confirmed to NBC News Monday night that Joran van der Sloot confessed to the slaying of a 21-year-old Lima woman.

According to La Republica newspaper, he said that his anger exploded and he broke Stephany Flores' neck after she grabbed his laptop without his permission, and found out that he was involved in the disappearance of an American woman.

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To: grey_whiskers

Funny he didn’t look chipper to me on the perp walk video.


51 posted on 06/07/2010 10:23:14 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: chris37; navyblue; Free ThinkerNY
Yes, navyblue. They will give you one bowl of dirty rice per day prepared in an unsanitary kitchen.

You don't mean this.


52 posted on 06/07/2010 10:28:56 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Might have been nothing secret or important on the laptop. It was his and she used it without asking. Natalee Holloway may have laughed at him. These freaks become enraged by anything.


53 posted on 06/07/2010 10:29:03 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Paleo Conservative

I’m thinking that perhaps Peruvian prison rice may not appear as appetizing as this particular rice.


54 posted on 06/07/2010 10:39:32 PM PDT by chris37
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Remember he had drugged her though, so her faculties were reduced.


55 posted on 06/07/2010 10:41:58 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: libh8er
How hard is it to get a confession in Peru ?

They practically write themselves. /s

56 posted on 06/07/2010 11:10:16 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: valkyry1

That raises a question from the opposite side. Why would a sluggish, drugged Natalee be curious enough about what was on Joran’s laptop to go poking around on it?

10 gets you 100 that the Peruvian goons told Joran he could get off easier on a confession to a “crime of passion” (this holds true for a number of Romance and Latin American countries whose law is based on the Napoleonic Code). Rather than the cold, soulless thing it would have been seen as.


57 posted on 06/08/2010 12:12:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey Johan - BOHICA.


58 posted on 06/08/2010 2:17:18 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey

Oops Johan s/b Joran.


59 posted on 06/08/2010 2:18:10 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: dalebert
>>>> "let me see...its the fault of the first girl he killed that he killed again." <<<<<

I am certain that his mother believes that, and I won't be surprised if plenty of Arubans don't blame Natalee Holloway for the murder of Stephany.

60 posted on 06/08/2010 5:26:39 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
doh!

MAKE THAT: I am expecting many Arubans to blame Natalee for the murder of Stephany.

61 posted on 06/08/2010 5:33:56 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He should have just had a simple password on the computer when he was away, to keep casual snoopers out ...


62 posted on 06/08/2010 8:56:16 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: DB

Well, the article said it was a maximum of 35 years in Perus ... so I guess it depends on how long he lives ...


63 posted on 06/08/2010 8:57:30 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: munin
You were saying ...

Can’t believe that he kept this on his laptop during international travel, he must be dummer than a sack full of windmills.

What he said doesn't mean that he carried anything incriminating. It appears to me to mean that he had "information" about him being the suspect in that case, and that's what the girl found.

It could have also had some personal thoughts (something he wrote) and/or something about that TV reporter in Holland getting him on camera with a "confession" (even though nothing came of it). So, all of what she saw may be no more than what was already available to the public.

I take that as he didn't want to be known as "that guy" -- rather than there was something that incriminated him.

64 posted on 06/08/2010 9:03:37 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"I wonder what was on the laptop about Natalee that he freaked out about when she saw it."

You are assuming his confession is true. I'm guessing he killed just to kill...especially given the anniversary date of the Holloway affair. He probably had this "confession" in mind before Flores ever got to his hotel room.

65 posted on 06/08/2010 9:06:49 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You were saying ...

Looks like Peru’s goons beat something out of Joran all right, but it still has an odd smell. If Natalee had gotten a gawk at Joran’s murder video, do you think she would choose to (1) confront Joran personally about it? or (2) sneak away as quietly as possible and go to the police?

Ummm..., that wasn't a confession about Natalee Holloway's disappearance, but rather a confession to the killing of the Peruvian girl, Stephany Flores,

And in that light (of what Joran van der Sloot said about the killing) -- it didn't seem that he was saying that she found out something about a murder or a killing -- but rather -- she found out "who he was" -- as in -- "a suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance".

So, it's more likely that what that girl, Stephany Flores, came across was something having to do with him being arrested and questioned and other "information" about him being a "suspect" in that disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

He got mad because he did not want "to be known" as "that suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance".

66 posted on 06/08/2010 9:09:57 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
You were saying ...

I wonder what was on the laptop about Natalee that he freaked out about when she saw it. What a sick punk this guy is. He knew his goose was cooked because he doesn’t have dear daddy to do the dirty work for him anymore

I know a lot of people are assuming that Joran van der Sloot was killing someone else on the anniversary of Natalee Holloway's disappearance as some kind of sick thinking on his part --- but it may be something completely different.

The way I "read" this is that he wasn't known as the "suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance" and he wanted to keep it that way. And when the girl looked on his computer, and found out from the "information" that he had there that he was the main suspect (and maybe he had other news stories about himself, too, there) -- that made van der Sloot mad, because it "blew his cover" and he didn't want "to be known" that way.

As I read it, they got into an argument about her (i.e., Stephany Flores) finding out "who he was" by getting on to his computer. They argued, he got madder, he got abusive, hit her and then in his anger broke her neck (either accidently or on purpose).

I don't think he figured "his goose was cooked" -- in that he was "caught for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway" -- because that's all been gone through extensively, thus far, and no one has anything on him about that, other than suspicions.

What he was "caught" about -- is that he was "identified" as the main suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and that interfered with his plans in that country.

67 posted on 06/08/2010 9:18:28 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Beaten Valve
You were saying ...

Finally, justice for Natalie Holloway....

I'm not convinced of that ... I mean, if he gets justice for his killing of Stephany Flores, I wouldn't consider that to be justice for Natalee Holloway's disappearance. We don't know what happened there, we have no details, we don't know if he was killed, if she had an accident, or got drugged up and died or anything.

It's not what I would call justice for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

68 posted on 06/08/2010 9:21:28 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SpaceBar
You were saying ...

His life is officially over.

Well, for most people that would be true, being that 35 years is a very long time. But, he is young and he could live a lot longer, so there may be some life left for him after those 35 years ....

It also depends on what else happens with the U.S. case against him, too. That might add a few more years.

69 posted on 06/08/2010 9:23:47 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You were saying ...

10 gets you 100 that the Peruvian goons told Joran he could get off easier on a confession to a “crime of passion” (this holds true for a number of Romance and Latin American countries whose law is based on the Napoleonic Code). Rather than the cold, soulless thing it would have been seen as.

Quite true. It could very well work out to be a shorter sentence for him, to have gotten mad at some "indiscretion" that the girl, Stephany Flores, engaged in (by accessing his computer without permission and finding out he was the main suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance) and having killed her in a fit of passon -- rather than being some cold-blooded killer who goes around killing women for the heck of it.

70 posted on 06/08/2010 9:27:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: DB

By dying, I guess he found out sooner.

I wonder if you have to explain what douche your kid is when you face your maker?


71 posted on 06/08/2010 9:29:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: navyblue
Well, some people seem to do fairly well in prison in Peru ...

Peru Frees American Held Since 1995



72 posted on 06/08/2010 9:33:24 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Actually, that looks good to me ... LOL ...


73 posted on 06/08/2010 9:34:40 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: autumnraine
You were saying ...

It really doesn’t matter if he confessed or not. They have him entering the hotel room with the girl and leaving with changed clothes without her. Tells the hotel not to disturb her. I don’t know how much more they need than that even without a confession. Especially if there is ANY physical evidence in the room.

It could make a difference in the circumstances of how the killing came about. If it was a crime of passion, on the spur of the moment, then it might be a reduced sentence -- from something that was a planned and premeditated murder.

It would be in his interests to present it as something that "got of control" and that he was angry and in a fit of passion, accidently killed Stephany Flores, and didn't mean to.

If there is nothing to show that he intended to kill her beforehand, and even if he did drug her in order to get her there in the first place -- he could very well maintain his story of it being in a fit of passion and being drunk at the time.

He's already given a "reason" for him being angry (i.e., the girl getting on his computer and digging/snooping around) -- so that can fit in with an argument getting heated and him slapping her around and then accidently killing her.

74 posted on 06/08/2010 9:42:08 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

“He’s already given a “reason” for him being angry (i.e., the girl getting on his computer and digging/snooping around)”

Bullpuckey! Peruvians are not going to believe anything this liar says and they are not going to believe it is a crime of passion! He didn’t even know this woman!!


75 posted on 06/08/2010 10:01:02 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan
You were saying ...

Bullpuckey! Peruvians are not going to believe anything this liar says and they are not going to believe it is a crime of passion! He didn’t even know this woman!!

LOL ... I've seen drunks commit "crimes of passion" and not even know who they were doing it to ... :-) It happens ...

As to whether that is the case here, what I'm saying is that if he says that and they don't have anything which shows it to be premeditated for a killing, then he's going to have the last word in the matter. Without anything to say it was pre-planned, I don't see how someone else, who wasn't there, is going to say differently.

It will come down to the evidence showing that -- or not.

The "rationale" for the anger has been "stated" by van der Sloot, and it's something that anyone can see could happen. I would not like someone snooping around in my computer -- but the difference is, I put a password on it to prevent "casual snoopers" (like friends, acquaintances and others) from doing so. And furthermore, I don't get mad to the point of killing someone. So, that's the difference for me, but I would not be too happy about it either.

So, that's the "rationale" for the argument and the anger. And it's not too hard to understand, especially with people drinking (or possibly on drugs) to get "overly angry" at the very slightest things. I've seen that, too, with many other people, so I know it happens very easily, and it's "plausible".

It's a "plausible explanation" for what happened -- but that doesn't mean it's an excuse -- it just means that this sort of thing can and does happen with people, far too many times, unfortunately.

AND..., if someone is already predisposed to abusing women, for one thing, and they have a "short fuse", for another thing, and they've been drinking -- no, it's "not a stretch" to see this sort of thing happening.

76 posted on 06/08/2010 10:12:16 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: acoulterfan
You should be aware that the legal system and law enforcement in Peru are not favorable towards women, as that culture there, in Peru, is different towards women than it is here in our own culture.

See the following for the attitudes in the legal system and law enforcement ...

Peru Ombudswoman’s report on the care for victims of domestic violence and sexual assault concludes government-sponsored women’s emergency centers “not efficient”

The culture there has a lot more men beating their wives and also having mistresses along with being married. It's not a "favorable" society towards women and you're going to encounter those types of attitudes in the legal system and in law enforcement.

It's conceivable that the police interrogators could very well shake their heads "knowingly" upon hearing that woman violated the man's privacy in such a way. And although they may know that the guy has to go to jail for his crime, they also "understand" why it happened, too ... you see ...

77 posted on 06/08/2010 10:43:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Yes, the legal system is different. Chances are the 3 judges are going to be sympathetic with the Father who ran for President twice.

There is no juror of the peers! Not good for Sloot!


78 posted on 06/08/2010 11:02:53 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan

Oh... I have no doubt he’ll be convicted... as it’s obvious from what they have on him that he did the crime... I’m just saying it will be the lesser penalty ... not the 35 years but more like 10 years or less...

Here, in some states, you might be talking about the death penalty... but there, you’re probably talking about maybe 10 years ...


79 posted on 06/08/2010 11:05:30 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I am sure you are probably right but 10 years in a peruvian prison will be like an eternity for this kid!!


80 posted on 06/08/2010 11:06:56 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: navyblue

He will earn his food with his mouth and butt.


81 posted on 06/08/2010 11:12:51 AM PDT by sport
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I can’t quit smiling when I think of this animals future. Those poor girls.


82 posted on 06/08/2010 11:16:11 AM PDT by Gator113 (OBAMA THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE..... IMPEACH Obama NOW..)
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To: longjack

I don’t think that he will lasy long enough to serve an assault and battery charge. It is easy to get HIV in prison and it works fast.


83 posted on 06/08/2010 11:17:37 AM PDT by sport
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To: Free ThinkerNY

May fate be poetic for him.


84 posted on 06/08/2010 11:29:13 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Star Traveler
but there, you’re probably talking about maybe 10 years ...

If he took $2000 from the victim he could get life.

It seems he may have told Chileans he took the money because he was broke.

Machine translation here:

La Republica.pe

Interestingly, from the same article, the laptop may have videos and pictures that will help solve the Natalie Holloway case.

85 posted on 06/08/2010 12:07:08 PM PDT by longjack
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To: longjack
You were saying ...

If he took $2000 from the victim he could get life.

Well, that's an interesting "commentary" on their system of justice ... LOL ... Kill a person and maybe 10 years ... but take $2,000 and get "life" ... :-)


Interestingly, from the same article, the laptop may have videos and pictures that will help solve the Natalie Holloway case.

I'm sure the authorities will search it, but I would think that one wouldn't be carrying around something like that -- especially since it's obvious that he didn't have any encrption or password protection on it. If he did have password and/or encryption, then he wouldn't have cared if the Peruvian girl got on the computer.

The way it sounds to me is that he was more concerned that it was "known" that he was the main suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, by the information that was on the computer -- rather than -- some incriminating photos or videos.

I can't say that for sure, but that's just "my take" on what I read. I'm sure we will find out later what is actually on that computer, as the authorities "do something" about it, once they look over the computer.

86 posted on 06/08/2010 12:23:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
For clarification:

Murder + robbery = life (maybe).
Murder + rape = 35 years
Crime of passion murder = 6 - 20 years.

From what I've been reading, the Peru authorities are backing off on the Stephany Flores looking at Van Der Sloots computer angle, in the sense that they are not confirming that, only that he confessed, in the presence of an attorney.

I get the feeling as well there will be stories appearing of online accesses to Stephany Flores bank account, etc. I thought I read that the father said her account was accessed during the time frame, but I can't find it again to provide a link, sorry.

87 posted on 06/08/2010 12:42:34 PM PDT by longjack
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To: longjack

Obviously there are more details to come out. I’m sure that there is much that we don’t know about. At this point it’s only a “hypothetical” discussion here as we can’t know all the details... yet.


88 posted on 06/08/2010 1:10:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: longjack

Oh... and thanks for the clarification on those crimes and sentences ... :-)


89 posted on 06/08/2010 1:11:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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