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NY passes students who get wrong answers on tests
NY Post ^ | 6/6/2010 | CARL CAMPANILE and SUSAN EDELMAN

Posted on 06/08/2010 12:46:17 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

When does 2 + 2 = 5?

When you're taking the state math test.

Despite promises that the exams -- which determine whether students advance to the next grade -- would not be dumbed down this year, students got "partial credit" for wrong answers after failing to correctly add, subtract, multiply and divide. Some got credit for no answer at all.

"They were giving credit for blatantly wrong things," said an outraged Brooklyn teacher who was among those hired to score the fourth-grade test.

State education officials had vowed to "strengthen" and "increase the rigor" of both the questions and the scoring when about 1.2 million kids in grades 3 to 8 -- including 450,000 in New York City -- took English exams in April and math exams last month.

But scoring guides obtained by The Post reveal that kids get half-credit or more for showing fragments of work related to the problem -- even if they screw up the calculations or leave the answer blank.

Examples in the fourth-grade scoring guide include:

* A kid who answers that a 2-foot-long skateboard is 48 inches long gets half-credit for adding 24 and 24 instead of the correct 12 plus 12.

* A miscalculation that 28 divided by 14 equals 4 instead of 2 is "partially correct" if the student uses the right method to verify the wrong answer.

* Setting up a division problem to find one-fifth of $400, but not solving the problem -- and leaving the answer blank -- gets half-credit.

* A kid who subtracts 57 cents from three quarters for the right change and comes up with 15 cents instead of 18 cents still gets half-credit.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
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1 posted on 06/08/2010 12:46:17 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Hope these kids won’t be building bridges in the near future ...


2 posted on 06/08/2010 12:49:40 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Is there more to the story, daddy?")
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To: mlizzy

but their self-esteam will never be stronger...well that is until they’re actually called upon to justify their abilities like during job interviews or job performances.

But thats were union and government jobs come into play.


3 posted on 06/08/2010 12:53:05 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Altura Ct.
Perhaps the assumption is incorrect. The article suggests the students were given credit for wrong answers...it may be the idiot liberals who administer the test didn’t know how to do the math themselves...so they were guessing.
4 posted on 06/08/2010 12:53:30 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: Altura Ct.

You can’t make silk purses out of sows ears!


5 posted on 06/08/2010 12:56:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Altura Ct.

ir smrte. U gif me job!


6 posted on 06/08/2010 12:57:48 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: highlander_UW
Your estimation is not far from the truth. My eldest daughter is a seventh grade teacher in the Chicago area. Each year, they are tested by the district they work in on the particular subject they are required to teach to their respective students. Over 50% cannot pass their first attempt on these examinations. While not being a scientific study I grant you, this never the less goes to show that yesterdays students become today's teachers who still are not grounded in a basic education.
7 posted on 06/08/2010 12:59:37 AM PDT by TheBlueMax ("Will kill foreigners so you don't have too!" U.S.Military)
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To: Altura Ct.

Haven’t you heard? There are no wrong answers anymore. The only thing that matters is whether or not the student is sincere in formulating his answer.


8 posted on 06/08/2010 1:00:22 AM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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Hope these kids won’t be building bridges in the near future ...

They will probably be on welfare or holding some public office. But then there isn't much difference, is there.

9 posted on 06/08/2010 1:01:00 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Altura Ct.

This supports my pessimistic view of Western culture. The problem is equally serious over here in Holland.

I shudder to think: these kids might become doctors and prosecutors. What if a doc doesn’t have an inkling how to make the proper dilution in an emergency situation? Or if killers are set free because the prosecution wasn’t able to formulate its case properly?

Are we doomed? If this continues, and if Islam pays proper attention to the things that matter in education, guys like Ahmedinejad will only have to blow once into the air in 2040 or so. And the West will be theirs...


10 posted on 06/08/2010 1:08:12 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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Almost fifty years ago one of my sons had a test question showing a rectangle with a line from one corner to the mid point of the opposite side to the opposite corner along the same line as the first point. The large triangle was shaded. He got the “correct” answer by saying the 1/3 of the area was shaded. When I pointed out to the teacher that 1/2 of the figure was shaded she blathered for a while and finally said that they were just trying to teach them fractions, not areas. She didn’t have a clue and didn’t understand what I was telling her.


11 posted on 06/08/2010 1:11:50 AM PDT by FreePaul
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They need stupid people who are likely to vote Democrat.


12 posted on 06/08/2010 1:15:11 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (11/03/2010 - What did Obama know and when did he know it?)
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To: Ayn And Milton
Or if killers are set free because the prosecution wasn’t able to formulate its case properly?

Reminds me of the OJ trial where the prosecution's expert, an FBI "scientist" didn't have any idea how to calculate the area within a circle. The defense made a fool out of him and the judge chimed in to decree that PI was "two and a quarter." People who wonder how OJ got off probably didn't watch much of the trial.

13 posted on 06/08/2010 1:17:23 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Altura Ct.

OMG


14 posted on 06/08/2010 1:17:28 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Altura Ct.

This is all about raising average grades so that the school overall gets favored status. More awards and therefore more money. It has nothing to do with actual learning.


15 posted on 06/08/2010 1:28:51 AM PDT by DB
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"They need stupid people who are likely to vote Democrat."

Right on. This is a template for creating a permanent democrat majority through permanent incompetency and dependency.

16 posted on 06/08/2010 1:42:14 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Altura Ct.

I think this has been going on for some time. I graduated from a local college a couple of years ago and although there were not many ‘just out of high school’ kids in our night classes there were a few. I took Technical Math and Business Calculations classes and when they failed a test they always asked the instructor to give them partial credit for the parts they got right. The college instructors always refused stating that in math there were no partially correct answers. It was either right or wrong. The kids were furious! Obviously they had been used to getting a passing grade for wrong answers.


17 posted on 06/08/2010 2:02:59 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: FreePaul

Geez... that’s what I meant, exactly!


18 posted on 06/08/2010 2:09:12 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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To: Altura Ct.

Makes sense to me. If you’re smarter than the “President” of the United States, then you’re smart enough to pass an elementary school test.


19 posted on 06/08/2010 2:33:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Altura Ct.
Here's one test that will never get dumbed down - the JOB INTERVIEW. Another such test is the decision an employer makes whether to give a raise, and how much.

I have a few employees in my company who will never even begin to reach their full earning potential simply because they were failed by a public school system that considers an hour of watching "The Little Mermaid" to be an hour of education.

20 posted on 06/08/2010 2:40:09 AM PDT by The Duke
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