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The left flunks Econ 101 (Zogby survey shows liberals don't have a clue how economy works)
American Thinker ^ | 06/08/2010 | Rick Moran

Posted on 06/08/2010 7:02:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 06/08/2010 7:03:41 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Which side is better able to understand and evaluate the choices facing America in these perilous times?

Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and I considered the 4,835 respondents' (all American adults) answers to eight survey questions about basic economics. We also asked the respondents about their political leanings: progressive/very liberal; liberal; moderate; conservative; very conservative; and libertarian.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conservatives; economics; left; liberals
All we need is enough Americans who think this way and vote accordingly and this country is DONE FOR.
1 posted on 06/08/2010 7:02:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“The left flunks Econ 101...

I honestly think they left is not even qualified to take the class.


2 posted on 06/08/2010 7:03:50 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Should be THE Left....


3 posted on 06/08/2010 7:04:39 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SeekAndFind
Ping for future use in convincing liberal acquaintances that they are clueless idiots...
4 posted on 06/08/2010 7:04:47 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The left flunks Econ 101.”

This is news???


5 posted on 06/08/2010 7:05:12 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: SumProVita

The problem is that these economics questions are rooted in a supply/demand system, the left only understands more normative Commie economics, where supply and demand do not matter.


6 posted on 06/08/2010 7:08:06 AM PDT by Thurston_Howell_III (Ahoy polloi... where did you come from, a scotch ad?)
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To: SeekAndFind

...like all the genius college students who think Zero just bought new computers for them.


7 posted on 06/08/2010 7:09:12 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals and “work” are mutually exclusive............


8 posted on 06/08/2010 7:09:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: SeekAndFind

I'm shocked....shocked to find illiteracy on the left!!

9 posted on 06/08/2010 7:10:08 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course liberals know how the economy works. Just have high taxes and give out the “rich” people’s money.


10 posted on 06/08/2010 7:12:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind
Question 1: The money used for government ‘giveaway’ programs comes from?

A. Trees
B. Printing presses
C. Taxes paid by those who work, with most of that money coming from the top 10% of wage earners.
D. Obama’s stash.

11 posted on 06/08/2010 7:13:26 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeekAndFind

gee, most of us figure that out by the time we get through the first paragraph of our first Paul Krugman column


12 posted on 06/08/2010 7:13:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
I listened to a radio show (Jay Severin) yesterday. A caller in favor of legalizing illegals) said “Each of these people have two jobs and all they want to do is raise a family.” The host said “That isn't a fact, how do you know they are illegal?” The caller said “When I go to a Dunkin’ Donuts, I see non-native speakers working not Caucasian males.” After the person somewhat admitted that they “could” be legal, you can imagine how the rest of the call went but this naive person has convinced himself of only “the good” but has little knowledge of the disruption in economic circles that illegals cause.
13 posted on 06/08/2010 7:13:59 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: SeekAndFind

What did they ask?


14 posted on 06/08/2010 7:14:18 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind
Geez, everybody knows that the Government can just print money and hand it out to me because life has been so mean and unfair to me I'm entitled to that 427 Shelby Cobra I always wanted.

The tightwads just won't do it, the Man just wants to keep me down.

15 posted on 06/08/2010 7:14:45 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Not the greatest writing of the survey questions:

5) Third World workers working for American companies overseas are being exploited (unenlightened answer: agree).

If you have an opportunity to make your product overseas at a reduced cost, you are exploiting a labor cost advantage. The correct answer certainly could be "agree".

6) Free trade leads to unemployment (unenlightened answer: agree)

"Free Trade" leads to unemployment in one labor market, and better employment in another. The correct answer again could be "agree".

True, liberals are economic dummies, but I wouldn't be proud of this poll.

16 posted on 06/08/2010 7:14:59 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“If you have an opportunity to make your product overseas at a reduced cost, you are exploiting a labor cost advantage”

“Exploit” is a buzz word. To conservatives and libertarians it need mean nothing more than “to make productive use of,” or more simply “to utilize.” But to lefties, it is basically the equivalent of “rape.” Marx surely uses it alot, generally with a sour attitude (not that he’s ever antyhing but sour, unless it’s violently sour).

The lefty connotation has bled over into the general understanding, naturally, since lefties own respectable intellectual culture (academia, journalism, entertainment, foundations, think-tanks, etc.). That is probably why the poll assumes that definition.


17 posted on 06/08/2010 7:22:27 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The correct answer would be:

E. Borrowed from the Chinese.

18 posted on 06/08/2010 7:22:40 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

Actually, we’re really borrowing from ourselves. The Fed prints the money to buy a lot of our treasuries. The Chinese, Japs and Brits come in second when it comes to being our debtors.

Eventually, we’ll all find out how valuable all these paper stamped with ink really is.


19 posted on 06/08/2010 7:26:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“6) Free trade leads to unemployment (unenlightened answer: agree)

‘Free Trade’ leads to unemployment in one labor market, and better employment in another. The correct answer again could be ‘agree’”

I have to assume by “unemployment” they meant unemployment beyond so-called “frictional unemployment,” which at all times people usually accept as inevitable.


20 posted on 06/08/2010 7:26:15 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind
17% of Obummer’s administration has real-world industry experience. They're soooooo smart, they don't need no stinkin’ job. Consequently, the number of people unemployed for over 6 months is at a 63 high (collapsing the American economy is going along perfectly according to the Alinsky radical’s plans).
21 posted on 06/08/2010 7:28:32 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
I totally agree with the complaint on the phrasing of the questions, particularly that one about exploiting labor in Third World countries. I think the unstated assumption in the question is that "exploited" is ipso facto a bad thing, and I don't think an economic use of the term necessarily rests on that assumption.

Also not sure that all studies have shown raising the minimum wage increases unemployment in all cases, though at least theoretically that is a defensible argument.
22 posted on 06/08/2010 7:34:03 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind
All we need is enough Americans who think this way and vote accordingly and this country is DONE FOR.

The ANIT-CAPITALISTS have almost won their argument. The BP oil spill plays right into their hands. Boy king is chomping at the bit to pass his cap and tax and will use every BP data point he can to jam yet another anti-capitalist POS law down our throats.

If conservatives (NOT RINOS) do not take back Congress in Nov 2010, you can put a fork in the America you and I grew up in.
23 posted on 06/08/2010 7:37:49 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SeekAndFind
What you are talking about is the Treasury borrowing money from the Federal Reserve.

The government borrowing from itself.

Which is in effect devaluing the currency; More dollars chasing the same amount of goods.

The prefect recipe for hyper inflation.

24 posted on 06/08/2010 7:40:35 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac
What you are talking about is the Treasury borrowing money from the Federal Reserve. The government borrowing from itself.

Yep. I've never really understood the usefulness of such gimmick and why not many people are aware of what we're doing. We keep harping on our dents to the Chinese when in fact, an even BIGGER portion of our debt problems are homegrown.

Just like the good times of our 10 year property bubble that went bust, eventually this chicken will come home to roost.
25 posted on 06/08/2010 7:44:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Pontiac
TYPO : We keep harping on our dents debts to the Chinese
26 posted on 06/08/2010 7:45:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Yep. I've never really understood the usefulness of such gimmick and why not many people are aware of what we're doing.

The usefulness is exactly what you said.

The people have no idea what the government is doing.

When the government borrows money from itself it has the effect of a wide based tax.

The government gets to spend the new money on goods and services at the present monetary value which devalues the old money.

The difference between the old value of money and the resulting value of the money after the absorption of new money into the market is the effective tax rate of creating the new money.

The beauty of the scheme is the general population is never the wiser. Very few people pay attention to the doings of the Treasury and Federal Reserve or have any idea what their job is.

If the administration is lucky the inflation doesn’t hit until they are out of office.

With this bunch I think they have pushed their luck with the amount of money they are creating. The bomb is going to go off sooner rather than later the economy can not absorb that amount of new money.

27 posted on 06/08/2010 8:59:27 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d be interested in seeing the questions


28 posted on 06/08/2010 12:10:25 PM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

>> The left flunks Econ 101 (Zogby survey shows liberals don’t have a clue how economy works)

But they know enough to be dangerous...


29 posted on 06/08/2010 12:11:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: zeugma

RE: I’d be interested in seeing the questions


The questions can be found on this site :

http://econjwatch.org/articles/economic-enlightenment-in-relation-to-college-going-ideology-and-other-variables-a-zogby-survey-of-americans

CLICK ON THE PDF file on the right of the page that says Download.


30 posted on 06/08/2010 12:19:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
5) Third World workers working for American companies overseas are being exploited (unenlightened answer: agree).
If you have an opportunity to make your product overseas at a reduced cost, you are exploiting a labor cost advantage. The correct answer certainly could be "agree".


The question asks if the worker are being exploited, not the labor cost advantage. The answer would vary from company to company and Third World country to Third World country. Just because you pay someone less than you would (or did) to someone else doesn't mean you are exploiting that new worker. You have to take into consideration the relative value of the pay they earn, based on the cost of living and such factors in their locale.
31 posted on 06/08/2010 12:40:48 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Tublecane

Exploit has always had a connotation above and beyond general use. While ‘rape’ is a little extreme, it does not simply mean ‘to use’
In many instances, yes, it mean to take advantage of, and treat someone unfairly, for lack of a better word.
However, you also have uses that simply mean to use something in a way it was not originally intended, such as to exploit a bug in the code of a game or other program.


32 posted on 06/08/2010 12:44:09 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

“Exploit has always had a connotation above and beyond general use. While ‘rape’ is a little extreme, it does not simply mean ‘to use’”

It does according to my dictionary, which has as one of its definitions “to put to use; make use of.”

“In many instances, yes, it mean to take advantage of, and treat someone unfairly, for lack of a better word.
However, you also have uses that simply mean to use something in a way it was not originally intended, such as to exploit a bug in the code of a game or other program.”

There is no definition of “exploit” as using something in a way not originally intended. Your example could just as easily employ the word “utilize” as “exploit.” Nothing about the word “exploit” has anything more to do with unintended means than the word use or “utilize.”

Unless the implication is that using a bug against the programmer’s intent is wrong. But in that case, your previous definition, namely “to take advantage of, and treat someone unfairly,” would apply. Really, there are only two definitions of “exploit.” One is simply “to make use of.” The other (the one leftists use) is “to make use of unfairly for your own advantage.” Your bug example is one or the other, not its own.


33 posted on 06/08/2010 2:03:27 PM PDT by Tublecane
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