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The Genius Gap (Are Boys the Second Sex?)
New York Magazine ^ | Jun 4, 2010 | Hanna Rosin

Posted on 06/08/2010 11:32:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway

What’s happening to the boy genius? Outside of fantasy fiction, he seems to be a shrinking breed. New York’s gifted-and-talented schools are overstocked with girls, a recent Times study found. In some gifted classrooms, three-fifths of the students are female. Yes, we know girls are smart and dutiful and hardworking, but this phenomenon confounds what’s long been considered the natural order. Could it really be that boys are now the struggling class, in need of help or affirmative action?

Experts have been warning about the boy crisis for years, but the idea has never really taken hold—partly because it originated as a crusade of the anti-feminist right. (Christina Hoff Sommers introduced it as a culture-war issue with her book The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men.) Yet empirical evidence continues to mount that boys, as a class, may no longer have what it takes to succeed in school.

For at least a decade, a subtle shift has been happening in the educational system that seems to be working against boys, who tend to be later verbal bloomers. New initiatives have emphasized more literacy skills in preschool, long before boys are ready. And early standardized testing—now the norm—sets up boys to see themselves as academic failures. To apply for a gifted program, children as young as 4 are required to sit through hour-long verbal exams. The patience and communication skills required all play to the strengths of girls.

“It doesn’t take a degree in child psychology to see what’s happening here,” says Richard Whitmire, author of the new book Why Boys Fail. “A test heavy on verbal skills aimed at the very early grades is going to turn up more girls than boys. I’m surprised the gifted gender gaps aren’t larger.”

Whitmire’s book is full of anecdotes of honors classes full of girls, from elementary school on up. He blames a regime that fixates on preparing children for college starting in kindergarten. “Why are they testing for gifted that early?” he asks. “It’s not intentional bias, but the same question applies here as with race: Do you judge bias by outcome? If so, yes, this is bias.”

To be fair, boys do tend to catch up to their female peers on both math and verbal test scores by high school. New York’s eight gifted high schools—Stuyvesant, Brooklyn Tech, etc.—have more boys enrolled than girls. But these particular statistics fail to capture the broader new reality for boys and men in the U.S.: They are less likely to graduate from high school and less likely to get a college degree.

Australia, New Zealand, and other countries have national initiatives to address the boy crisis—providing male teachers, boy-centric reading material, and lessons in technology. Here, educators have tried the occasional experiment—single-sex classes, for example—but they are resistant to the idea that boys, in a nation still ruled by men, are really in trouble. But as Whitmire likes to point out, this is a future problem: Men not achieving in school means men not going to college means men with no job prospects means men rejected as suitable marriage prospects by smarty-pants girls.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: academicbias; affirmativeaction; bright; genius; gifted; politicalcorrectness; savethemales
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1 posted on 06/08/2010 11:32:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

its the war on boys.

an equally smart boy and girl will have the system pick the girl to “make up” for some fantasy wrong.


2 posted on 06/08/2010 11:34:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually the reason is that we’re drugging our bright with drugs so idiots don’t feel bad about themselves. All about self esteem dontcha know?


3 posted on 06/08/2010 11:35:57 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: nickcarraway

I have observed that women have an extremely difficult time rising above mediocrity.


4 posted on 06/08/2010 11:36:00 AM PDT by olepap (God help us)
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To: Niuhuru

Harrison Bergeron must be stopped.


5 posted on 06/08/2010 11:37:08 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: nickcarraway
Yet empirical evidence continues to mount that boys, as a class, may no longer have what it takes to succeed in school.

Or we could say it without blaming the victim: schools no longer have what it takes to succeed in teaching boys.

6 posted on 06/08/2010 11:37:44 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: nickcarraway
Experts have been warning about the boy crisis for years, but the idea has never really taken hold—partly because it originated as a crusade of the anti-feminist right.

Blaming the messenger even after admitting "social justice" quotas may play a part in this disparity.

The so-called feminist movement is NOT pro-woman. NOW defended a serial rapist who was accused of workplace sexual harassment, supports infanticide, defends planned parenthood (who hide details about minors who are sexually molested by adults)...

Calling the socialist "feminist" movement a women's movement is a lie. It is Communist. It comes out of the Soviet "women's movement" (International Women's Day, etc.), not the sufferage movement (which had a Republican background).

7 posted on 06/08/2010 11:38:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: nickcarraway

Probably due to the pussification of the boys in our public schools.


8 posted on 06/08/2010 11:38:17 AM PDT by calex59
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To: nickcarraway
Ironically, men are statistically more likely to possess genius-level intelligence. While the average IQ for both sexes is the same, women have a much narrower bell curve, which means they have relatively fewer individuals on the extreme ends - extremely high and extremely low IQ. This means that there will be proportionally more men who are both very smart AND very dumb.
9 posted on 06/08/2010 11:38:54 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Interesting Times
Yet empirical evidence continues to mount that boys, as a class

Boys are not a "class", they are a sex/gender. But then that means it would be discriminatory to single them out for mistreatment...

10 posted on 06/08/2010 11:39:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: longtermmemmory

That and boys aren’t allowed to be boys nor do they have all that many good role models.


11 posted on 06/08/2010 11:41:00 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: nickcarraway

I have noticed in our GT schools that selection is based on numbers. A certain % boy, girl, race, ethnicity etc... They want the GT school/classes to “look” just like the other regular schools and classes. Even in elementary school, the “higher” math and science classes are manipulated to be “even”. So, a student may be put into a “lower” class than he is suited for if his race/sex/ethnicity is already represented by %. Been there, still there, bought the t-shirt And sent the post card on this one.


12 posted on 06/08/2010 11:41:17 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: massgopguy

Harrison Bergeron must be stopped.


That’s right

Required reading for everyone

Call out the equality of everything cops, now

Get his chains ready.


13 posted on 06/08/2010 11:42:35 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: nickcarraway

Hanna is gonna tell us how boys aren’t gifted ...


14 posted on 06/08/2010 11:43:13 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: nickcarraway

Most of the teachers these days are women who also happen to be NEA union members. I’d say 90 percent of the teachers today lean Left. It’s similar to the percentage of those who lean Left that work in the LSM.


15 posted on 06/08/2010 11:45:17 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: nickcarraway

Could it really be that boys are now the struggling class, in need of help or affirmative action?

Yeah since y’all attacked them unmercifully for 20 odd years.

They don’t need affirmative action but they need to be left to be boys.

Idiots caused this problem even when they were warned they were doing so.

The war on boys is just a battle in the war on men.

And I am disgusted with it.

Put your own damn seat down.


16 posted on 06/08/2010 11:46:12 AM PDT by Adder (Note to self: 11-2-10 Take out the Trash!!!)
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To: momtothree
In most places where you find a GT program being run by the EIEIO number system you'll find that there are a large number of Asian students.

During this period of history where we are still skimming the cream off the top of the non-European countries, this is the wrong thing to do!

17 posted on 06/08/2010 11:46:53 AM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: nickcarraway

Perhaps women have always been smarter. Who knows? Women being encouraged in their intellectual pursuits is only a 100 year old phenomenon.

I think the more likely explanation is that the last few generations of intelligent have had more girls than boys. Hence the higher current number of female geniuses. It is proably random and incidental.

Plus the fact that in America we tend to love our daughters and don’t abort them as in other (Eastern) cultures, which also skews the data.


18 posted on 06/08/2010 11:48:06 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: a fool in paradise
But the use of the term ‘class’ is right out of Marxist analysis - the working class, the capitalist class, the peasant class, and so on. The writer may not even be consciuos of what he/she/it is doing here.
19 posted on 06/08/2010 11:48:30 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Next you will know they are Socialists if they start calling it “the struggle”, which has been the phrase used by Leftists since Hitler’s Mein Kampf onward...


20 posted on 06/08/2010 11:49:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
"I think the more likely explanation is that the last few generations of intelligent people have had more girls than boys. Hence the higher current number of female geniuses. It is probably random and incidental."

Geez, I really struggled typing that paragraph.

21 posted on 06/08/2010 11:50:38 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Niuhuru

Niuhuru nailed it.


22 posted on 06/08/2010 11:51:47 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

True-there are not that many female Einstein’s and concomitantly, fewer women with severe mental issues.


23 posted on 06/08/2010 11:53:36 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: nickcarraway

It’s not just boys now. There is a whole generation of women that either despise men or feel that men are only here to bust their ass to make their life easier, depending which hormone is in charge that day.

As always, these are mostly liberal women, so if you are a woman reading this and you aren’t offended, it probably doesn’t mean you. If you are, well, the shoe just might fit.


24 posted on 06/08/2010 11:54:13 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Interesting Times

That’s the trouble with empiricism. The empirical evidence showed that black slaves were ignorant and incapable of functioning in our society as free men.


25 posted on 06/08/2010 11:54:16 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Doesn’t explain the radical disparity.


26 posted on 06/08/2010 11:56:23 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

I think girls are more dutiful to study, which enables a larger cohort to get to, and graduate, from college as well. As the most successful and smart people tend to bear children later in life, this (in my opinion) also makes them more likely to have girl children. I have noticed this among horses as well-the older the mare, the more likely she is to have fillies. Nature’s way of replacing themselves, I guess.


27 posted on 06/08/2010 11:56:56 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Great points.


28 posted on 06/08/2010 12:00:46 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: RobbyS

No, that alone does not explain it, but I made other points in my initial post.

Basically, I believe it is probably random.


29 posted on 06/08/2010 12:01:47 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Probably less than 90%. Probably closer to 70%. In 1992, 40% of NEA members voted for George H.W. Bush. It bcame a matter of controvrsy at the convention that year that close to 90% of all contributions went to Democratic candidates. That was because the national board was solidly Democratic.

On the other hand, the reigning philosophy in public education is progressivism. Education is equated with social engineering.


30 posted on 06/08/2010 12:06:48 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: nickcarraway

If boys mature more slowly and aren’t prepared for or in need of enriched classes until they are older, I don’t see the problem. The point of such classes is to better teach those for whom the regular coursework is too easy. (And if boys dominate at the level of graduate physics classes, as I belIeve they do, I don’t see the problem there either.)


31 posted on 06/08/2010 12:07:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Amberdawn
True-there are not that many female Einstein’s and concomitantly, fewer women with severe mental issues.

Exactly. What critics of IQ differences usually focus on is the conclusion that there are fewer really, really, really smart women out there. They forget that there are also fewer really, really, really dumb ones too.

32 posted on 06/08/2010 12:07:57 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: calex59

There are far fewer good male role models at schools anymore. They’ve drummed out virtually all the normal, male teachers under a number of schemes and reasons. They need to see and be taught and have respect for good male role models embodied in teachers.

I thank God I went through school in the years I did. Lots of guy teachers in all subjects, worth respecting back then.


33 posted on 06/08/2010 12:09:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Depends on what one means by genius. Terman’s geniuses included no Einsteins.


34 posted on 06/08/2010 12:11:34 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
True-there are not that many female Einstein’s and concomitantly, fewer women with severe mental issues.

Well, that's just because the craziness is spread out over monthly cycles for most of their life.
35 posted on 06/08/2010 12:12:23 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: neutrino

We aim to please.


36 posted on 06/08/2010 12:14:19 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: nickcarraway

30 years ago when girls weren’t succeeding in school it was “fix the schools!” Now that boys aren’t succeeding in school it’s “fix the boys!”

(not original with me)


37 posted on 06/08/2010 12:15:21 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: RobbyS
Education is equated with social engineering.

And we have a winnahhhh!

Step right up, sonny, and claim your prize:
And intellectual exploration of exactly how RIGHT you are.

First, the History Tour.

Then, the Underground History Tour.

Once you complete both you will be able to clearly see how it has come to be that "Public Education" may well be a greater evil than complete ignorance. As bad as it is considered to be, at least ignorance doesn't exploit, deride, and defile the innocence of children.

38 posted on 06/08/2010 12:28:53 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Boy! LOOK at that! Them figs'll be ripe sooner'n ya think. [Matt. 24:32])
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To: nickcarraway

When females take over a profession, the males flee.


39 posted on 06/08/2010 12:29:19 PM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: "...all of us, who consider ourselves progressive...")
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To: longtermmemmory

Or a genius boy will get bored and antsy, then be stuck on Ritalin “for acting like a boy.”
Then he won’t be a genius any more.


40 posted on 06/08/2010 12:33:32 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Adder
"Put your own damn seat down."

I ALWAYS put the lid down. Looks 10 times better and toddlers and pets don't fall in.

To me it's not about the seat, I'd rather you put the lid down the way I do for the reasons given and the seat will take care of itself.

I am also the only woman I know who consistently defends treating boys like boys and not like women in training. I am particulary vocal with one of my sons, who is a teacher, because I know he is under a lot of pressure from the feminized education system to treat boys like girls. He doesn't, but I want him to know that not all women think that way.

Men and women are different from each other - not better or worse. Those different skills and aptitudes should be encouraged and developed not smothered because too many women can't see how much men bring to the table.

41 posted on 06/08/2010 12:40:00 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: massgopguy

Hahah - that bit of Vonnegut scifi came to mind to me too reading this.


42 posted on 06/08/2010 12:51:24 PM PDT by februus
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To: Let's Roll

“the feminized education system to treat boys like girls.”

This is exactly what I see - my son says he hates to read, but the crap they want him to read in school is, just that, crap. He loves to read his SI for kids, he loves to read the “Bone” series (which is discouraged at school because it’s a “comic-book-type” series). Amazing, when he starts to read something that’s interesting...he actually enjoys it.

The long school day (with lots of non-learning going on) plus homework is ridiculous for boys who want to go out and play, which is what boys (and girls) should be doing.


43 posted on 06/08/2010 12:53:34 PM PDT by KEmom (Proud to be a Mama Grizzly!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

In their effort to make education more girl friendly, they changed subjects that boys were strong in - math and science.

Take a look at the textbooks - what used to be number problems are now ‘word’ problems - and girls have always been early readers. I realized the problem when it took my son ten minutes to figure out the name of the tribe that was collecting a certain kind of bean (of course that was part of the multi-cultural connection, which adds $$$ to price of textbooks).

In english classes, comprehension tests are based on paragraphs of nonsense that I’ve had a tough time trying to figure out what they were looking for - and english/reading were the only subjects I was reallllly good at! It’s all touchy feely nonsense. Boys start to fail, get pushed into vo-tec classes. If they actually make it to college, things start to turn around in the math/science fields where boys excel. The trick is to get them thru high school.


44 posted on 06/08/2010 12:53:54 PM PDT by oldmomster
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To: Niuhuru

A consequence of socialism.


45 posted on 06/08/2010 12:59:42 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: RobbyS

You base 70 percent on your own experience in the public eduction field?


46 posted on 06/08/2010 1:00:43 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: darkangel82

Meanwhile the Chinese roll out the red carpet for their gifted and bright.


47 posted on 06/08/2010 1:01:46 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: olepap

Actually, that IS the distribution -

female geniuses, and idiots, are rarer
than male geniuses and idiots.

The IQ distribution curve is fatter in the middle for females
than for males.


48 posted on 06/08/2010 1:04:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: KEmom

Institutionalize schooling just doesn’t work for boys, for the most part.

Some would rather read while hanging upside down off the arm of the couch.


49 posted on 06/08/2010 1:05:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: 9YearLurker
...if boys dominate at the level of graduate physics classes, as I belIeve they do, I don’t see the problem there either.

You're right, they do. What you'll never hear unless you look into it for yourself is that the vast majority of these are 'boys' from other countries, principally India and China. Do not be fooled: the boys in this country are being deliberately dumbed down by social engineers who are fashioning what they believe will be a feminist utopia. The slots in the graduate physics programs are going to Indians and Chinese males because our students -- male or female -- cannot compete. Other countries do not deliberately dumb down their male children. We do.

A lot of people around here were surprised that Socialists could form a voting majority in the United States in 2008, by getting the recently-educated to the polls. People just don't want to believe that the schools are as Orwellian as they are.

This isn't going to change. People don't really want to believe it, and ultimately they don't care. It'll be 20 or 30 years before the fact that all the advances in the hard sciences are taking place elsewhere comes back to bite us. By then, it'll be too late.


50 posted on 06/08/2010 1:23:48 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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