Posted on 06/09/2010 12:06:14 PM PDT by jamese777
The group backing Birther Army Doctor Terrence Lakin as he makes his way through the military justice system announced today that Lakin is waiving a preliminary hearing that was set for Friday.
Lt. Col. Lakin refused orders on the grounds that Barack Obama is not eligible to be president. It is now up to Maj. Gen. Karl Horst, Military District of Washington Commander, to decide if the case will go to trial, said Chuck Dasey, spokesman at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, where Lakin is assigned.
The American Patriot Foundation said in a press release: Saying that the Army has made it "impossible for me to present a defense" at the Article 32 "preliminary hearing" previously scheduled for June 11, 2010, Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin has officially waived -cancelled--that proceeding. Therefore, the case will move inexorably on to a General Court Martial.
(Excerpt) Read more at tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com ...
This will not go to court martial, the Court Martial Convening Authority will levee a punishment and put this to an end.
BS. The LTC is defending The Constitution. Where are all the nitwits here who want to salute the usurper to keep their PX priviledges for cheap smokes and booze.
SCOTUS and the Pentagon are cowards.
Wanna bet?
A court martial will give him more standing in appeal.
His first action in the Courts Martial would be a subpoena to Barrack Obama to present his birth certificate as evidence for his charges to go forward. No certificate then Not Guilty and the impeachment can begin!
LTC Lakin is entitled to an affirmative defense, i.e. I’m not guilty of the crimes charged because of a circumstance particular to me.
LTC Lakin questioned the eligibility of the CiC when others would not. LTC Lakin proactively sought confirmation of the eligibility of the CiC before he was charged with these crimes and was stonewalled. He requested the procedure for confirming the eligibility of the CiC and was ignored.
LTC Lakin publicly state he would miss movement to demand the CiC confirm his eligibility to hold the title.
Major General Carla Hawley-Bowland is Ltc Lakin’s commander.
Major General Carla Hawley-Bowland is Ltc Lakin’s commander.
I hope so but “Barry won” Looks like he has been able to get away with anything he wants.
The Walter Reed Army Medical Center has issued this statement concerning the forwarding of charges in LTC Lakin’s case now that the defense has waived the Article 32 investigation:
“LTC Lakin waived his Article 32 hearing on 4 June 2010. Once the Article 32 was waived, the charges were forwarded by Walter Reed commanding general with a recommendation as to disposition to MG Horst, the Military District of Washington Commander, on 8 June 2010. It is now up to MG Horst, to determine if the case will go to court-martial and the level of court-martial. MG Horst could also decide that some other disposition is more appropriate than court-martial. MG Horst is the General Court-Martial Convening Authority for Soldiers assigned to Walter Reed Army Medical Center.”
I guess we don’t get to find out what Major General Hawley-Boland’s recommendation was.
“Major General Carla Hawley-Bowland is Ltc Lakin’s commander.”
Oh-oh, a hyphenated last name?
I guess we don’t get to find out what Major General Hawley-Boland’s recommendation was
She is not the convening authority for Courts-Martial in the Washington DC area for the US Army. All Courts-Martial are covened thru the Commander, Military District of Washington, located at Fort McNair. All Walter Reed AMC Courts-Martial are done at MDW, Ft McNair
She is not the convening authority for Courts-Martial in the Washington DC area for the US Army. All Courts-Martial are covened thru the Commander, Military District of Washington, located at Fort McNair. All Walter Reed AMC Courts-Martial are done at MDW, Ft McNair.
It needs to be determined who the Court Martial authority is for Ltc Lakin.
“Washington, D.C., June 9, 2010. Saying that the Army has made it “impossible for me to present a defense”
at the Article 32 “preliminary hearing” previously scheduled for June 11, 2010, Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin has officially waived –cancelled—that proceeding.
Therefore, the case will move inexorably on to a General Court Martial. The punishment for the charges filed against LTC Lakin carry a maximum term of four years in the penitentiary. Lakin expects the trial to be held in the early fall, but this has yet to be determined.
The next step will be the formal referral of the charges by Lakin’s Commanding General, Major General Carla Hawley-Bowland, followed by his arraignment before a Military Judge, both of which are expected before the end of June.”
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/press-release-june-2010.html
“Washington, D.C., June 9, 2010. Saying that the Army has made it “impossible for me to present a defense”
at the Article 32 “preliminary hearing” previously scheduled for June 11, 2010, Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin has officially waived –cancelled—that proceeding.
Therefore, the case will move inexorably on to a General Court Martial. The punishment for the charges filed against LTC Lakin carry a maximum term of four years in the penitentiary. Lakin expects the trial to be held in the early fall, but this has yet to be determined.
The next step will be the formal referral of the charges by Lakin’s Commanding General, Major General Carla Hawley-Bowland, followed by his arraignment before a Military Judge, both of which are expected before the end of June.”
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/press-release-june-2010.html
“LTC Lakin waived his Article 32 hearing on 4 June 2010. Once the Article 32 was waived, the charges were forwarded by Walter Reed commanding general with a recommendation as to disposition to MG Horst, the Military District of Washington Commander, on 8 June 2010. It is now up to MG Horst, to determine if the case will go to court-martial and the level of court-martial. MG Horst could also decide that some other disposition is more appropriate than court-martial. MG Horst is the General Court-Martial Convening Authority for Soldiers assigned to Walter Reed Army Medical Center.”
“The next step will be the formal referral of the charges by Lakin’s Commanding General, Major General Carla Hawley-Bowland, followed by his arraignment before a Military Judge, both of which are expected before the end of June.”
Seems she has not sent a recommendation. You state she has.
If the people whose advice he sought said this would resolve the birth certificate issue, they were badly uninformed.
It make sense that they did cancel it.
Seems she has not sent a recommendation. You state she has.
Yeah, everyone should just keep their head down, say nothing, and hope 0thugga doesn’t destroy the entire country and someone better is elected eventually.
Speaking up and acting on behalf of the Constitution is just so suicidal and useless. Not only should no one do it, just to be safe we should all criticize anyone who does.
How would that work? I've never heard of such a thing.
“Dasey, the military spokesman, sent along this statement on the case:
LTC Lakin waived his Article 32 hearing on 4 June 2010.
Once the Article 32 was waived, the charges were forwarded by Walter Reed commanding general with a recommendation as to disposition to MG Horst, the Military District of Washington Commander, on 8 June 2010.
It is now up to MG Horst, to determine if the case will go to court-martial and the level of court-martial. MG Horst could also decide that some other disposition is more appropriate than court-martial.
MG Horst is the General Court-Martial Convening Authority for Soldiers assigned to Walter Reed Army Medical Center.”
From the link you posted. Who the heck is Dasey?
If this is such a big deal why doesn’t obama just show his birth certificate????????????
Ping to list!
Related:
Michael Savage:
“To have elected an unknown man of unknown origin, a man who’s probably not even an American citizen – How can the whole military not know this?” Savage asked on air this past week. “How could the entire military establishment not be asking the same question that millions of Americans are asking?
“Do you think it’s plausible that the entire United States military complex does not understand the extreme dangers of having a commander in chief with dual allegiances in the White House?” Savage asked of Obama, who has publicly admitted he was born to a British father and therefore born a dual citizen. “Do they not understand that the presidency may have been usurped by a foreign power?”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2529214/posts?
STE=Q
LTC Lakin waived his Article 32 hearing on 4 June 2010.
Once the Article 32 was waived, the charges were forwarded by Walter Reed commanding general with a recommendation as to disposition to MG Horst, the Military District of Washington Commander, on 8 June 2010.
It is now up to MG Horst, to determine if the case will go to court-martial and the level of court-martial. MG Horst could also decide that some other disposition is more appropriate than court-martial.
MG Horst is the General Court-Martial Convening Authority for Soldiers assigned to Walter Reed Army Medical Center.”
From the link you posted. Who the heck is Dasey?
Please post the press release from Walter Reed stating LTC Lakin’s Commander General forwarded the charges.
You are saying the Army issued a press release under the name of Dasey and most likely works in the Public Affairs Office at Walter Reed.
Please provide a link to the official press release.
In this highly charged case the 'convening authority' will be the major command.
I'll add some info to what a convening authority does.
No trial court martial is complete without the convening authority's written approval or disapproval of the findings and sentence.
The convening authority can approve any portion of the findings or sentence found to be correct in law OR disapprove any findings or sentence in whole or part believed to be inappropriate. The convening authority may suspend the execution of any sentence that has been approved, except in the sentence of death. In certain instances, the convening authority may order a rehearing of the case. The convening authority may defer the service of a sentence to confinement. A deferment postpones the confinement, and the confinement, and the postponement remains in effect until the proper authority orders the sentence carried out or rescinds it.
Yeah, everyone should just keep their head down, say nothing, and hope 0thugga doesn’t destroy the entire country and someone better is elected eventually.
Speaking up and acting on behalf of the Constitution is just so suicidal and useless. Not only should no one do it, just to be safe we should all criticize anyone who does.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Best post of the day!
STE=Q
I don't agree with your premise. Some people do not define there lives by the profession or job they may have at the moment.
He isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced and this court isn't going to subpoena Obama or his records. It's just a waste a good man is doing this to himself.
It will have an effect. Obama is not going to look good by the persecution of LTC Lakin. The legacy of Obama will be as of a fraud that only the delusional will deny. Time is not on his side.
You are saying the Army issued a press release under the name of Dasey and most likely works in the Public Affairs Office at Walter Reed.
Please provide a link to the official press release.
This is from the original article that this thread is based on: “Lt. Col. Lakin refused orders on the grounds that Barack Obama is not eligible to be president. It is now up to Maj. Gen. Karl Horst, Military District of Washington Commander, to decide if the case will go to trial, said Chuck Dasey, spokesman at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, where Lakin is assigned.”
I googled “Chuck Dasey Walter Reed” and found this: Media may contact Walter Reed’s Public Affairs Officer Chuck Dasey at (202) 782-7500 or e-mail at chuck.dasey@us.army.mil
Where is the official press release stating charges were sent from Walter Reed to MG Horst.
You said they were sent according to a Dasey “most likely a spokesperson in the office of PA at WR.”
I don’t agree with your premise. Some people do not define there lives by the profession or job they may have at the moment.
He isn’t going to convince anyone who isn’t already convinced and this court isn’t going to subpoena Obama or his records. It’s just a waste a good man is doing this to himself.
It will have an effect. Obama is not going to look good by the persecution of LTC Lakin. The legacy of Obama will be as of a fraud that only the delusional will deny. Time is not on his side.
Where is the official press release stating charges were sent from Walter Reed to MG Horst.
You said they were sent according to a Dasey “most likely a spokesperson in the office of PA at WR.”
This Dasey character leaked it to the web site you posted.
BS troll.
and this court isn’t going to subpoena Obama or his records. It’s just a waste a good man is doing this to himself.
You should redirect your efforts against the Kenyan in the White House Obot. Lakin is a strategic thinker. He obviously thinks it is a worthy cause.
If there is a general court martial conviction, Obama could pardon Lakin and look very good and benevolent. He would be using Lakin. It would be another “invite the Cambridge, Massachusetts police officer over for a beer moment.” Ya gotta study Obama’s M.O.
That will be the day in a pig's eye. LOL! The Kenyan clown is thin-skinned.
“He isn’t going to convince anyone who isn’t already convinced and this court isn’t going to subpoena Obama or his records.”
He’s is not issuing a subpoena for Obama’s records. The record belong to the People. Obama is using his right of privacy to keep the records maintained and controlled by the People sealed.
Lakin is entitled to a vigorous and affirmative defense. We assume the records Obama can’t let the public see will, in fact, be made public. But, it’s not necessary. The records can be entered as evidence and sealed by a closed court after Lakin uses them to defend himself.
This Dasey character leaked it to the web site you posted.
In this case, it appears that TPM was the first media source to make an inquiry and Dasey issued a statement. Whether it was a formal press release or not remains to be seen but he appears to have responded to a media request for information about the cancellation of the Lakin Article 32 hearing.
I do not know if Dasey’s response was over the phone, via email or in a written statement. But it certainly appears to have been a written statement in format.
If you have just a bit of patience, we should all know with 100 percent certainty in pretty short order whether or not Major General Karl Horst, Military District of Washington Commander is truly going to be the person to decide if the case will go to trial.
Yeah, imagine stupid stuff like self-sacrifice, bravery, standing up for the truth, having convictions that don’t melt when conflicting with self interest. How last century. I mean, what’s the future of the country compared to a pension!??!
Every man for himself, and who cares about principle or truth.
Yeah!
The de facto officer doctrine does not apply to Lakin because he made his concerns as to the eligibility of the CiC publicly know before POTUS was sworn in.
The de facto officer doctrine applies to defendants who raise concerns about the officer’s authority AFTER he is convicted. Lakin raised concerns before he was even charged.
Betcha a steak dinner that’s not how it comes out.
TPM is a left wing site...but guess you knew this.
Very left and it knew it.
TPM is a left wing site...but guess you knew this.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.