Skip to comments.Beware of Trojan Horses (Mod Lecture Series)
Posted on 06/09/2010 1:20:45 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
This is just a quick note to everyone. Lately, a lot of people have discovered a video that supposedly is by a Hawaii official that claims there is no Hawaii Birth Certificate for the President.
We have no idea as to the legitimacy of this claim however, we need to warn everyone that the source of this video is a group called The Council of Conservative Citizens. This is NOT a Conservative group, do not be fooled by the name. This group is a front group for a neo-Nazi group known as the National Alliance and is associated with Stormfront.
Sources such as this are not welcome at Free Republic for obvious reasons. If you see this video posted, please report it to us through the abuse button so we can remove it.
These groups have a history of creating front groups or websites to try to sneak into the mainstream. Another site that you may see a lot that works like this is the EU Times. From what we've found, they are associated with a pretty nasty European Neo-Nazi group.
We don't expect everyone to check every single source, especially as some do stay under the radar. Just stay vigilant and know that sites like this are out there.
That is all. You may return now to your regularly scheduled broadcast.
Thanks, LucyT. Never heard of any of these sites. Sometimes I feel so out of the loop. (sigh)
googled Timothy Adams and Obama, and see many many links...but I won’t go there because there are bugs a-crawlin this week!
Tim Adams was the Chief Elections Clerk for the city and county of Honolulu, Hawaii, during the 2008 presidential election. As Chief Elections Clerk, he supervised a staff of 50 and had access to all the database to verify documents like birth certificates and birth places of campaign candidates.
On June 5, 2010, Adams was interviewed by James Edwards of the Political Cesspool radio show. Adams says unequivocally:
Adams is currently teaching in the graduate program of Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, Kentucky, (270) 745-0111. Hes listed, as Timothy Adams, in WKUs faculty-staff directory, HERE. Timothy Adams is also listed as a Graduate Assistant of the English Department, HERE:
I have to seriously doubt his judgment in choosing to call radio stations with this story, if it is, indeed, him. He could get sued for breaching the privacy clause that was most likely in his HI contract.
He may have just been sharing scuttlebutt in the HI office where it appears to be unlikely that he could actually have seen proof that BHO II didn't have a long form BC.
Proving the nonexistence of something is more problematic than proving something is there for starters.
Usually on a hot topic to Obama's detriment, the Obot script kiddies are busy messing with the websites by planting their bugs.
Maybe there was a time limit on confidentiality?
I used to work for the SSA and they drilled into us the penalties for violating privacy laws, and that is how it should be!
“Tim Adams” is doing something similar to what the 9 employees of the firm in Iowa are being prosecuted for doing. The 9 were “peeking” at Obama’s records and were caught because their computer access events had an audit trail.
We don't know how Mr. Adams came into possession of knowledge of his claim that Obama does not have a long form, or whether the claim is credible so the nature of his potential liability is unclear at this point.
Thanks for the elucidation.
Well, we will see if Mr. Adams surfaces in another venue or not to continue his story.
I believe he prefaced his remarks with in his (their ) professional opinion obie didn’t have a long form..thus the weasel words to get off the hook..
I went to CofCC website, and they have the Tim Adams’ YouTube vid there. WND has picked up on it now, which will surely help their rep /sarc
Links on the bottom left under European Allies. They include the BNP and Front National.
Also, under recent activity youll see they have been on Derrik Blacks radio program- that would be Radio Stormfront for those not in the know. Derrik Black is Don Blacks son (Stormfront founder)
James Edwards, the founder of cofcc and the host of the radio program you are listening to is actually part of Stormfront.
On the YouTube video, Stormfront logos start appearing at the 1:51 mark.
..and just for the icing on the cake, their links page is chalked full of white nationalist crap.
http://cofcc_dot_org/links-database/ including the always fun Euro Pride apparel whose URL is white-pride_dot_org
Thanks for posting. Some folks can’t see the nose on their face. Speaking of which, ping.
” Tim Adams is doing something similar to what the 9 employees of the firm in Iowa are being prosecuted for doing. The 9 were peeking at Obamas records and were caught because their computer access events had an audit trail.”
We don’t even know THIS for sure, so it is wise for FR err on the side of caution.
Thanks for the info. I have have never heard of them.
World Net Daily now has an article interviewing Tim Adams. There is no video or connections to nefarious organizations.
Will this article be allowed to be posted?
WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.
Why don’t people trust WND?
What specifically have they said that is blatantly untrue.
Exactly -- Thanks for the caution.
For whoever just posted another thread without reading this one.
Could you please help? The Sidebar Mod (I am sorry I do not know how to FReep mail any Mod) pulled three threads from this morning that were based on a story about Tim Adams but the article linked was at WND. I think the mod who pulled the threads saw “Tim Adams” and assumed they were from the “Trojan Horse” source that is the subject of this thread. Could you please consider restoring those threads? One of them was titled “Hawaii elections clerk: Obama birth not here” and the link to the WND story is this URL: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165041.
There were tons of pings on this thread and it is potentially a very important story. Anyone looking at FR today and not seeing it would definitely be shaking their head and wondering how we could have missed it. Thank you for any assistance you may be able to render.
The story is now at WND and that is considered a legit source here as far as I know. Even so, they got pulled - I believe in error. What thread are you pointing a finger at?
Isn't WND simply repeating the statements from the white supremacist group? It doesn't exactly wash it clean.
Now why did you guys pull the WND article where WND actually interviewed this guy AS WELL AS VERIFIED his claims of working for HI elections and teaching at WKU??
Nowhere in that article was he acting as a white supremacist in a group.
I meant to ping you above. Wrong NBC ;-)
Well, we will see if Mr. Adams surfaces in another venue or not to continue his story.
if he survives...
I hope the mod answers.
They usually do - at their leisure sometimes.
Considering he went on a Stormfront-sponsored program to tell his story, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the moderators to allow it to be repeated here. They've allowed the opinions of several shady characters in the birther threads--from 9/11 truther Philip Berg to con man Lucas Smith--but I would say this goes too far.
Well, Klingon, seems you want to have control of information. Let me guess, you’re a rabid after-Birther?
after checking your posting history, I’ve changed my intent of the word Klingon. It was just a light gesture regarding Star trek aliens. After seeing your posts, it’s now more accurate as a dingleberry around Obama’s rear end.
It has gone viral. about 1.5 million hits for “Hawaii elections clerk Obama birth”
I would ask, which is worse, this group or Barking Obama and his commie czars? Honestly, I am not sure there is much difference except that one has real power and the other has a few followers.
LOL...that’s the one.
Peter Boyles: 8AM hour: http://www.khow.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=fullshow_boyles.xml
After the play was reviewed by refs the threads stands. At least one of them does...
Well, remember they do perform this Mod function in addition to their housework (from the archives): Why was a founding member of the FreeRepublic LLC 501(c) board banned by a housewife modmin/admin?
p.s. I now see your thread was restored as you thought. Cheers to the modmin/admin!
I never did get any of that pizza....
You will recall that the Viking Kitty security forces
at the FR Complex wiped out TWO pizza delivery attempts
due to (apparent) lack of communication from the housewife mod.
NOBODY got pizza except the Viking Kitty security forces.
I'm kind of OK with that, though.
It's funny to note that there is another "Tim Adams" involved in politics in Kentucky. He worked under both Bush Administrations. He even went to the same University that that this new Tim Adams now teaches English at.
Talk about weird coincidence. Probably nothing though. Probably means nothing. I looked at pictures of both men and they certainly are not the same man.
“..I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the moderators to allow it to be repeated here.”
Hmmm ... interesting how things can change, huh ?
About 1,450,000 results (0.24 seconds)
I could go for a slice or two right now...
Ah-HA! I've suspected it for a while, but wasn't quite sure.
Now I know.
You're a procurement guy by day and a Viking kitty by night.
I knew it...
Yes, I was wrong when I said such a story wouldn't be tolerated here.
What hasn't changed is the fact that this guy decided to drop this news on a radio show sponsored by Stormfront, and that the story was initially spread by a white supremacist organization. I think that we should still keep this in mind when evaluating this claim for ourselves.
Where do you see that Peter Boyles’ radio show is sponsored by S’front ?