I didn't know Jews sought converts in Antiquity. Is Jewish prosleyltism in Rome mentioned by Ancient Historians?
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06/10/2010 9:08:01 AM PDT by
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06/10/2010 9:09:06 AM PDT by
kabumpo
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06/10/2010 9:11:38 AM PDT by
GOPGuide
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I didn't know Jews sought converts in Antiquity. Is Jewish prosleyltism in Rome mentioned by Ancient Historians? Probably some did, some didn't. Jesus mentions that the Pharisees compass land and sea to make one proselyte (which may suggest that the Pharisees were either very selective or not very successful). The Hasmoneans at one point tried to convert the Gentile populations in Galilee to Judaism, with a mixed record of success.
4 posted on
06/10/2010 9:12:02 AM PDT by
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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There were proselytes in Roman times. The Jewish monotheism held certain attractions theologically and morally. But I am suspicious of research that suggests that modern Jews are different genetically from the biblical ones. That can be a wedge for antisemitism.
5 posted on
06/10/2010 9:12:50 AM PDT by
Genoa
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It’s a junk study.
What is more likely is Jewish people in Italy converted to Roman Catholicism, either in an attempt to blend in or by force (forced baptisms of Jewish children was a common practice, followed by stealing them and giving them to childles upper class families).
Leanardo DaVinci, for example, was maternally Jewish.
Chris Columbus, another.
6 posted on
06/10/2010 9:13:07 AM PDT by
Jewbacca
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That doesn’t make a lot of sense. There obviously were Jews before that time period. A friend of who is Jewish, told me that King David had red hair. I did some quick research and that seems to be the consensus tho the Bible just says he had a ruddy complexion.
BTW, Ramses the Great had wavy red hair. Not conjecture either, he really did.
7 posted on
06/10/2010 9:13:10 AM PDT by
yarddog
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Khazars did not convert because of outreach from Jews.
Their nobility chose Judaism because they liked it and it was a buffer to them (in modern day SW USSR region)between Cross and Crescent politically since they assumed Judaism not long after Mohammed
I woulda never guessed that 10% Jewish Roman thing.
no doubt many Jews are Semetic.....they show it physically as much as I show the cold Steppes
8 posted on
06/10/2010 9:14:42 AM PDT by
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The Blonde Hair and Blue eyes though could come from many places Jews have lived....Germany obviously...most Aryan looking Jews I’ve known were Germanic or Dutch descended
names like Goldhaber
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06/10/2010 9:17:13 AM PDT by
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This is interesting. I have been reading a couple books on the lost tribes of Israel. The books mention that the lost tribes had migrated to Europe and other parts of the world. Also, before all the tribes had been lost, there were tribes like Dan who were able to sail to parts of Europe and trade. Some tribesmen from Dan set up trading post in parts of Europe. Italy, Spain, France, and some believe Ireland and Britain were some of the places they set up posts.
Anyhow, if you are interested, check out: The Story of Celto-Saxon Israel by WH Bennett and Symbols of Our Celto-Saxon Heritage by LG Pine.
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06/10/2010 9:19:41 AM PDT by
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06/10/2010 9:23:01 AM PDT by
patriot preacher
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the population most closely related genetically to European Jews are Italians. Hollywood casting directors have known this for years.
18 posted on
06/10/2010 9:26:06 AM PDT by
Oratam
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“That explains why so many European and Syrian Jews have blue eyes and blond hair,”
is it really that many? Not in my experience. Aren’t most American Jews “European Jews”?
19 posted on
06/10/2010 9:28:00 AM PDT by
cdcdawg
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Sure...Rome was known as Hymietown [Hymianus Urbs...]
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26 posted on
06/10/2010 9:46:44 AM PDT by
Adder
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The Jewish people, according to(ignorant) archaeologists, originated in Babylon and Persia between the 4th and 6th centuries BC.
No, the Jews were descendants of Abraham (2000 BC) and he originated from Ur in Chaldea (whey they are genetically close to Persians). The Exodus is 490 years later, and King David approx.900 BC.
The professor asked,”Oh my, what do they teach in schools these days?”
29 posted on
06/10/2010 9:54:33 AM PDT by
Rodm
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The vast majority of Jews are not descendents of Abraham but of European descent. That was so even in Jesus’ day. Think of such people as Luke, Timothy, and Titus. They were mixed with what is called Europeans today. That has been known for decades as well as many Jews are mixed with Mongols. When you consider that most Jews are “non-religious,” there is no monolithic group called Jews. It is a little like trying to describe the race of Tiger Woods.
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"The Jewish people, according to archaeologists, originated in Babylon and Persia between the 4th and 6th centuries BC."
MUSLIM LIE!
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06/10/2010 11:38:29 AM PDT by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
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64 posted on
06/10/2010 12:06:19 PM PDT by
RichInOC
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I didn't know Jews sought converts in Antiquity. Is Jewish prosleyltism in Rome mentioned by Ancient Historians? Hellenistic Judaism was intensely popular in the Roman Empire and thus the empire had to actually accommodate Jewish peculiarities. The Hellenistic Jews did proselytize people into the faith and this large Jewish population was the reason Bar Kochba thought he had a chance at prevailing against Rome.
However, there was a large divide between this population and the Zealots of Judea and the Jews of the rest of the Roman empire didn't rise against it. In the long run, Christian and Jewish Rabbinic authorities competed for these same populations and thus many of the calumnies in the Bible and the Christian New Testament came out of this rivalry.
Jews gave up on proselytizing new converts because of the experience with people who are only partially Jewish in their identity and the fact that this was dangerous and a hard sell once the Roman Emperors got serious about banning Jewish observance and throughout Jewish history until this last century.
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06/10/2010 12:33:31 PM PDT by
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06/10/2010 3:47:35 PM PDT by
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