Skip to comments.Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here
Posted on 06/10/2010 9:24:21 AM PDT by pissant
A college instructor who worked as a senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008 is making the stunning claim Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State.
Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, now teaches English at Western Kentucky University.
"There is no birth certificate," said Tim Adams, a graduate assistant who teaches English at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Ky. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."
Adams, who says he's a Hillary Clinton supporter who ended up voting for John McCain when Clinton lost the Democratic nomination toObama, told WND, "I managed the absentee-ballot office. It was my job to verify the voters' identity."
He says during the 2008 campaign when the issue of Obama's constitutional eligibility first arose, the elections office was inundated with requests to verify the birthplace of the U.S. senator from Illinois.
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"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."
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I just sent this to GOP, Issa and Los Angeles times. Thank you for alerting. It is a open secret. We knew that.
I have a feeling this will explode before November. They are predicting Obama will not make it a full term. Maybe they know something.
Can we send it to a hundred others somehow?
Of course it detracts. Why did the CA GOP just shoot down Orly Taitz three to one. She and the birthers are viewed as fringe. You can make a tight legal argument on the NBC issue without ever having to make a claim that 40 some years ago someone planted a birth announcement in the Honolulu paper.
Also why all the secrecy with Obama’s college applications and papers. If I recall other President’s had to show everything or Dan Rather would make it up.
He won’t be impeached because of the threat of “civil unrest”, ie, black people rioting.
I predicted 2011 is going to be a bad bad year if you are Barack Obama.
There is the federal false information act (or something named like that) which makes it a federal crime to deceive Congress. That’s by what you say or by what you left unsaid.
I’ve written to my Congress-critters and their reason for not contesting the electoral vote was the Factcheck COLB - which Obama knew was a forgery and failed to publicly state. Thus deceiving Congress.
It doesn’t matter if Robert Gibbs or somebody else put the COLB on Obama’s campaign website for him; if Obama did not correct their claims that his genuine COLB was posted online, then he is guilty of breaking that law - deceiving Congress by what he failed to tell them.
I have the feeling that Obama needs that new Kenyan Constitutino so he can legally claim U.S. citizenship.
wallop, never once in my life has anyone asked me for my birth announcement in the paper for proof of ID.
It is nowhere in federal guidelines for proof of identity.
Not to mention that a newspaper announcement is worthless when it doesn’t state where the baby was born, unlike McCain’s birth announcement.
Who the hell gets elected President with an online Internet scan for Gods sakes ........?????????
Not to mention that a newspaper announcement is worthless when it doesnt state where the baby was born, unlike McCains birth announcement.
Not to mention that Obama’s and ONLY Obama’s has a giant cut and paste line just above and below it, with remnants of another entry clearly showing,
in one of the papers...
It's easily refuted by previous comments made by Hawaii's Republican Governor, who has a lot more credibility than some guy calling in to a Stormfront-sponsored program.
He is definitely up to no good as he has Biden meddling in Kenyan affairs.
I’m not saying it is courtroom-sufficient proof. It’s not, at least not without better authentication. But, what is your alternative explanation? I have heard none that I feel is reasonable. It is what it is. A simple announcement that the Obamas had a son on Aug 4. Postulating all of these far-fetched explanations doesn’t help the argument, it hurts. IMHO, FWIW. Obviously, many here think it’s not worth much. Oh well.
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“ATTY. APUZZO: Yes. If the Third Circuit affirms the District Courts decision to dismiss the case for lack of standing and political question, then the Kerchner plaintiffs will file a Writ of Certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court.
It does not mean that the court will necessarily hear the case because youre essentially requesting that the Supreme Court review the lower courts decision. So you dont have a right to go to the Supreme Court; you have a right to ask that the Supreme Court take the case.
So when we talk about going to the Supreme Court, we mean that we are asking the Supreme Court to take the case. If four justices vote to accept the petition for Certiorari, then its actually on appeal in the U.S. Supreme Court, and then we would need a majority of the court to actually grant the petition.
If they grant the petition, you dont necessarily win the case, because at that point the only issue thats on appeal is whether or not the District Court is correct in dismissing the case for lack of standing and for political question. That means that the lower court never addressed the merits of the case, the merits being Is Mr. Obama a natural born Citizen under the Constitution; does he meet that definition?
We contend that he does not meet the doubt-free definition of a natural born Citizen because when he was born his father was a British subject and Obama himself was also born a British subject (which converted to Kenyan citizenship when he was 2), all giving him conflicting natural allegiance to Great Britain from the time of birth and to Kenya from age 2.
The Framers would not have allowed a person born after the adoption of the Constitution with such conflicting natural allegiances to assume the great and singular powers of the President and Commander in Chief.
Secondly, Was he born in Hawaii? We contend that he has yet to provide sufficient and credible information that he was indeed born in Hawaii.”
Otherwise you have a copy of a microfiche that appears to be spliced. Better yet, show the world the actual long-form birth certificate.
We have no disagreement then.
Linda Lingle, Hawaii Governor interview about Obama Birth Certificate December 20, 2008
Fake presidents don’t get to get impeached.
And if justice is not served, those who are afraid of black people rioting may have their fears overshadowed by other fears, such as arrest and imprisonment.
But you can’t stop the corruption at the HDOH, the Hawaii State Library, the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, and the Honolulu Advertiser until you expose that they’ve pulled a number on all of us - and broken laws to do so - just to trick people who actually thought that government, media, and law enforcement still might have some integrity.
This is a wake-up call. They don’t. “Birthers” have been mocked because they didn’t swallow from the politicians and media the oldest line in the book: “Just trust me...”
Very soon it will come out that the people we’ve been told we’re supposed to trust have been screwing us and laughing at every “idiot” they played for a fool.
I hope every person who gave the HDOH and the media the benefit of the doubt on the announcements will rise up in just anger at the abuse of their trust, and sink the people who have done this. They know who they are, and soon America will know who they are.
Well jamese777 is probably busy at Huff-Post or DU???
Ah, dragging in Orly, are we?
And a fake claim that no one says except trollies.
You stink of hireling troll. Do you work under Cass? Do you have a cubicle or do you work at home?
I guess you didn't read where Lingle is doing the backstroke in her Hawaiian pool about her latest comments on radio.
Maybe you should go up thread... I'll post the gist of it here:
You'll notice everyone is wriggling to avoid any perjury traps for later when this all blows. Lingle now says she didn't see the birth certificate herself. Before she made it sound like she had not only seen it, she had it in the safe in her office (which was weird even in itself). Now, no, not quite. "
I am going to put this here and people can read it or not. Has nothing to do with this article but it is amusing.
Last night, you all know my love of Bravo reality shows. It wasn’t until about a month ago I realized MSNBC,GE owns Bravo. The bailed out GE, MSNBC. Andy Cohen on his show consistently applauds Obama and berates anyone anti Obama. Come on, without a bailout he nay not have a job. And he is gay and extremely liberal.
Top Chef Master last night crowned their winner. A young man from KENYA. His mother died (tuberculosis) when he and his siblings were young and they were adopted by a Swedish family. Really nice person and he deserved to win as much as the other two.
But for some reason it seems odd to me. Next week starts TOP CHEF D.C. The judges will include the chef, Rick Bayless who had his twitter account taken away while cooking) who cooked for the mexican president who berated our laws and obama and dems clapped wildly.
I am wondering how far Obama will go with this show. Will he be on the show? Will he have one of the shows in the White House? How far up Obama’s backside will Andy Cohen go? Pun intended.
If you google Michelle Obama’s TOP CHEF friends you will see a few articles. Maybe Obama and Michelle will abuse Bravo to further their obesity problem?
Interesting I think.
Which statements by Lingle? The one where she said that Fukino announced that Obama was born at Kapiolani (which is documentably false)?
Maybe the statement where she said that she told Fukino to treat Obama’s BC differently than other BC’s - which contradicts the statement by Fukino saying that Lingle didn’t tell anybody to treat it differently?
Which “credible” statement by Lingle are you talking about? She made two - and both are contradicted by Fukino, her own appointee.
Pretty credible witness you’re invoking there, Kleon.
I posted the same article early this morning and it got yanked by the powers that be at FR. I wonder why that is.
she has never actually seen it herself thus she also is only relying in hearsay. Why is that? Why won't she take the bull by the horns and claim it as a fact based on 1st hand knowledge of actually seeing it for herself? Kind like the statement that the HI AG approved the previous statements from DOH & Lingle, when in fact we have it in their own official words that they did no such thing.
I think we still do. You want to accept a specious claim, and I want proof.
And Oh, he is busy congratulating himself on how he is winning the debate here on FR. He is delusional ... See:
The not-so-bright call any post that disagrees with their positions, trolling.
A better word is debating. An easy way to tell who is winning a debate is by who gets called a troll!
Any news networks interested in pursuing this story? Buehler?
And how many have we seen depart our premises
involuntarily for their brilliant, illuminating,
articulate and arrogant comments in the last
years on this subject ?
Under any guise, whether military/military academy,
government experience, security classification,
academic or legal expertise or funky basement
And whether short and pithy posts or long-winded
bibles of such over-the-top and sincere
rationalization .. THEY WERE TROLLS ... PAID OR
KOOL-AID DRUNK OBOT VOLUNTEERS .. BUT
NEVERTHELESS AND EVER MORE
And who will the next one be ??
She had no reason to believe her health director was part of a conspiracy to protect Obama, and neither do I. I believe there's sufficient proof that he was born in Hawaii.
Correct. Dual national at birth, does not make one a natural born citizen of the U.S.
Look here and down the thread.
Just throwing this out there. For the past 18 months Zero has thrown Great Britain under the bus several times. Could he possibly be thinking that if this goes to court and it’s pointed out that he has dual citizenship/allegience that he can “use” his past actions as “proving” he has no allegience to Great Britain?
but was keeping quiet very quiet about it.
This may be a stupid question, So why was the original thread yanked? Thanks in advance and God Bless.
As many of us have researched, the 2004 article below is perhaps the FIRST public indication
that Obama had presidential aspirations, after he won the Illinois Senate race.
The article ALSO shows Obama's other Hawaiian birthplace of Queens Medical Center ...
Where's the proof?
Furthermore, and most importantly, how can someone born a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England (admitted on his own web site & that of falsecheck's) be considered a natural born citizen of the U.S. as intended by the framers?
I suspect mostly because of this post here.
Tom Adams was intervied by a radio guy who may have some connection to a very weird website; the interview, although on Youtube, was posted on their website. But now that WND for all its warts is not a neo-Nazi site, this thread stands.
Why would Mr. Adams risk his professional reputation when all he has is his word against mine?
If he really had it he'd proudly show it, don't you think?
Didn't McCain, when he was challenged, produce his on the Senate floor and pass it around for all to see? Well?
And by the way
Why must we all be called "birthers" and "fringe" all the time.
We are asking a simple polite question. "Tell us what hospital you were born in and what doctor delivered you ..."
And: There are dozens of small odd weird "indicators":
For example, no one even knew they were "married" in Hawaii, none of their friends.
There are no baby photos, no nurse photos, no pregnant photos, no wedding photos, not a single letter ever from his father,
raised by a guy with a 601 page FBI file ---
and now they say Granps had an FBI file too!!!!
Bet you can't find many American politicians in the last 230 years who can say all this!
He really is special!!!.
He's used several different names.
Roomed with foreign students only.
Told people he was born in Mombasa.
No witnesses before during after his birth and no long form BC --- because it doesn't exist ???????
Only: A scan with no folds showing at the Orwellian named Fight the Smears.
Who the hell ever heard of a USA citizen who couldn't even say what hospital he was born at?
Can't everyone? -----------------
All of Kenya says he was born there - they even stand up in Parliament there and say it. Private people there laugh about it. Do you dismiss all their words for racial reasons perhaps? Why aren't their statements acceptable and considered to be valid? Seems racist to me to laugh at them and dismiss what at least a dozen or more have said to date.
Newspapers? What of the ones that say Kenyan-born Obama??? These also don't count at all?
And Why the hell do we have to go through this torture?
Why must we chase him and his microfilms and his records ----
why doesn't he just show the two or three papers needed to put all doubt to rest?
When you apply for any job this is what you do ------ not tell people to go look at your unfolded online Scan at Fight the Smears.
And by the way again ------ where does the Holy One's paper COLB currently reside? Can I go hold it and see it?
Why not? Well then, can DeMint.? Djou ? Why not?
Why must this farce continue for years and years?
Why aren't Adams or Race Bannon or Fife or Dr. Drew on Hannity or O'Reilly or Glenn Beck?
Ever? Not even once?
Will any newspaper ever do a day's research on all this?
It's enough to write a book; and more is coming out weekly.
This week was quite amazing, in my opinion and I hope it continues to snowball and go viral. =============================
Like Dr. Drew, and Hillbuzz, and many many many others:
I think he is a Gay, Marxist, Revolutionary, non-Christian with a hidden past and a scary agenda. Ever see him in church?
Have you got your $242,000 personal share of the new national debt in your pocket to pay???
Whoever heard of a President with a "stash"?
What will you do 10 years from now when you need a few F-22s and there are not enough to go around and all the tools and dies have been destroyed ... by this regime.
Joe Kovacs discusses in depth his 2 hr long interview of Adams & all the background investigation Kovacs did before interviewing Adams to verify the guy was legit.
Peter Boyles: 8AM hour:
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