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Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here
World Net Daily ^ | 6/10/10 | Joe Kouvacs

Posted on 06/10/2010 9:24:21 AM PDT by pissant

A college instructor who worked as a senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008 is making the stunning claim Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State.

Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, now teaches English at Western Kentucky University.

"There is no birth certificate," said Tim Adams, a graduate assistant who teaches English at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Ky. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."

Adams, who says he's a Hillary Clinton supporter who ended up voting for John McCain when Clinton lost the Democratic nomination toObama, told WND, "I managed the absentee-ballot office. It was my job to verify the voters' identity."

He says during the 2008 campaign when the issue of Obama's constitutional eligibility first arose, the elections office was inundated with requests to verify the birthplace of the U.S. senator from Illinois.

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"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

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To: Wallop the Cat

Even 49 years ago US citizenship was viewed as an extremely useful thing to have in life. Zer0’s grandmother Dunham showed herself over the years to have been something of an operator in HI. If her daughter’s child had, in fact, been born outside the borders of the US, she could have done her part to make his future life easier by: #1 placing the birth announcement in the paper and #2 filing his birth with the State, something which close relatives were permitted to do in HI in the loosy-goosy ‘50’s and ‘60’s as a way of getting population figures pumped up as high as possible.

You’ll notice that the COLB mentions that the birth was FILED by a certain employee. It does not use the term REGISTERED. That could be because of a lack of a long-form certificate.


151 posted on 06/10/2010 1:01:06 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Well said


152 posted on 06/10/2010 1:02:17 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Wallop the Cat
"There is no evidence that an announcement was actually placed, all that's been offered up as “evidence” from micro fiche which is easily forged. Secondly, the announcement doesn't say the baby was born in Hawaii, it's just an announcement that any proud new Grandparent might place."

Precisely.

Furthermore, who's address is on the newspaper announcement announcing a birth of a boy (not specifically named by the way)? The grandparents address. Assuming the original fiche was not tampered with [there is evidence it may have been], the "announcement" was placed in the papers by the grandparents! Big friggin deal! He was born. Obviously. But where? The newspaper "announcements" are not proof of place of birth.

Besides, someone born with multiple allegiances isn't a natural born citizen of the U.S.

153 posted on 06/10/2010 1:02:42 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: MrB

More likely because the Dhimmis will never try to impeach one of their own. He could be an axe murderer, it wouldn’t matter to them.


154 posted on 06/10/2010 1:02:42 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: rambo316

Don’t ask.


155 posted on 06/10/2010 1:03:52 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Kleon

She and the Health Dept. director resorted to weasel words that would make Slick himself proud.

Neither has ever said they have seen Obozo’s genuine, long-form BC.


156 posted on 06/10/2010 1:05:55 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Well said BTTT.


157 posted on 06/10/2010 1:06:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks


158 posted on 06/10/2010 1:07:20 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: pissant

WND is usually a good read but I don’t accept it as unbiased.


159 posted on 06/10/2010 1:08:32 PM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 16 days.)
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To: Scanian

The more that truth comes out, the more radical and insane he reveals himself to be, the more crimes that he has committed and/or aided and abetted are made known - sooner or later people will sing so as to avoid jail time; or even to be able to have something of a public career after he and his entourage crashes and burns.

I am sure of this.


160 posted on 06/10/2010 1:08:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Actually the story comes from the radio station.


161 posted on 06/10/2010 1:09:28 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Kleon

Her director of health illegally hid until November of 2009 the administrative rules which reveal that any person is authorized to receive a non-certified copy of Obama’s abbreviated BC (COLB).

Her director of health made a public announcement of what is contained on the (multiple) birth records for Obama, which is forbidden in HRS 338-18a.

Her director of health then refused to release the documents she used in order to make her illegal statement, as required by Hawaii’s UIPA (FOI law).

Her director of health has overseen a department which is currently being investigated because it has apparently illegally destroyed permanent records, including the original birth index, index to foreign births, and the birth record for at least one individual.

Her director of health has perjured herself by giving testimony before a legislative hearing which exaggerates the actual requests they receive regarding Obama’s birth certificate by (IIRC) about 800%. She gave that testimony urging Hawaii to basically do away with their FOI law (UIPA) by allowing an agency to rule a person as a “vexatious requestor” who didn’t have to be answered.

There’s more but I’ll wait on that for right now.

You need to see http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ .


162 posted on 06/10/2010 1:10:05 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: colorcountry

What was the name of the twins who were born that same day (8-4-61) but had NO announcement in the microfiche?

That and the strange address in the Obama announcement(neighbors deny the O’s ever lived there) is plenty of reason to be suspicious.

This is not a politician who requires ordinary scrutiny. He is extraordinarily un-American and destructive and thus demands extraordinary scrutiny and suspicion.


163 posted on 06/10/2010 1:10:18 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Agree with all of your words. Couldn’t have said it any better.


164 posted on 06/10/2010 1:11:45 PM PDT by rambo316
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To: Wallop the Cat

Using the GOP establishment as authority around here is not going to be very persuasive.


165 posted on 06/10/2010 1:12:38 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Wallop the Cat

Both of our parents placed their grandchildren in their local papers. As they did our marriage. I really don’t care why it was there or if it was placed there. It means ntohing in court. For it to be used by liberals means they are desperate. I want hard proof. The kind requested of us all after 9/11.

Ask yourself how Obama even got on the ballot without being vetted?


166 posted on 06/10/2010 1:14:10 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

BTTT!


167 posted on 06/10/2010 1:14:25 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: rambo316

He left the comment “no thanks” and closed the thread. Apparently not a WND fan.


168 posted on 06/10/2010 1:15:52 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: edge919

It would be important to me if Obama cleared up everything else of concern. If he released his BC and college records. And told us why he is using a stolen SSN. *wink*


169 posted on 06/10/2010 1:16:40 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Thank you.


170 posted on 06/10/2010 1:17:38 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Kleon

I forgot to say that Fukino only said what the birth records(plural) for Obama claim. The very fact that there are multiple records when the only index data they have for him is for a birth record shows that the document they have has been amended, which means that according to statute the State of Hawaii CANNOT vouch for the accuracy of the claims made on it.

IOW, the Hawaii DOH has revealed through multiple communications that what they have for Obama does not rise to the standard of prima facie evidence. If any judge ever allows a case to be heard on its merits, everything Hawaii has for Obama is not enough to automatically trump any other birth claim.

That could be why Obama’s lawyers have only offered 2 things as evidence, for Judge Robertson to “note”: the online image of a COLB (which the HDOH has now indirectly confirmed as a forgery) and the online images of the birth anouncements (which will very soon also be proven as forgeries as well).


171 posted on 06/10/2010 1:17:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Scanian
Long form birth certificates are issued by hospitals and registered with the Hawaii DoH. The family keeps the long form and a copy is forwarded to the Registrar. I think that's the practice in all of the states .

Whatever Fukino or Chinoye viewed was probably just a line item entry on a computer and not a copy of the original Certificate of Birth. It's doubtful there was a rigorous search for the archived copy, a cursory record scan only.
172 posted on 06/10/2010 1:18:02 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: rxsid; Wallop the Cat
Besides, someone born with multiple allegiances isn't a natural born citizen of the U.S.

Yep, that's the bottom line no matter what but I see that we still have questionable noobs showing up here and rehashing the same old crap.

They're like flies that continually need to be swatted, er I mean walloped!

173 posted on 06/10/2010 1:19:25 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Scanian

Who left a comment, “No thanks”?


174 posted on 06/10/2010 1:19:43 PM PDT by rambo316
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

The DU crowd invented “birthers” because it goes so well with “truthers.”


175 posted on 06/10/2010 1:20:11 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: OafOfOffice

Desperate enough to commit crimes in order to present fake birth announcements which wouldn’t even qualify as legal evidence.


176 posted on 06/10/2010 1:20:15 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Scanian

Susan and Gretchen Nordyke


177 posted on 06/10/2010 1:20:30 PM PDT by colorcountry ("Showing mercy to the wolves is showing cruelty to the sheep." - Unknown)
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To: rambo316

Thanks


178 posted on 06/10/2010 1:20:51 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: rambo316

The mod.


179 posted on 06/10/2010 1:20:56 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Nordyke birth certificates Pictures, Images and Photos
180 posted on 06/10/2010 1:21:24 PM PDT by patlin
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To: OafOfOffice

Ask yourself how Obama even got on the ballot without being vetted?

Melanin ?


181 posted on 06/10/2010 1:21:41 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Why aren't Adams or Race Bannon or Fife or Dr. Drew on Hannity or O’Reilly or Glenn Beck? Ever? Not even once?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Because Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Bill O’Reilly. Levine, Ingram, Medved, and the rest, are phonies and/or cowards.

If they are phonies they will sell their talents to fascist oligarchy and spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.

If they are cowards, they are also FOOLS! Why? Because **NOW** is the time to confront evil because in the end the fascist oligarchy will carry out their threats, steal their money, and throw them off the air anyway!

If these phonies and cowards can't defend the Constitution ( ALL of it!) when all they face is a little ridicule from the mainstream media, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY they will defend it with tanks in the streets, jack boots at the door, and gas ovens at the concentration camps going full-blast!

182 posted on 06/10/2010 1:21:47 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: BIGLOOK

All they said was that what they had in file was “in compliance with the laws of Hawaii” or some such. Total weaseling.


183 posted on 06/10/2010 1:22:13 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: null and void
Doesn’t matter where he was born. His father was a British subject, that makes him, at best, a dual citizen at birth.

I always say it wouldn't matter if he was born in the West Wing of the White House... since his father was Kenyan, he is not "a natural born citizen" and is thus ineligible to be president. The whole thing is retarded.

BTW... re: your tagline... that sentiment seemed to be the common theme of two articles I read (and blogged) today... one by Dorothy Rabinowitz in the WSJ, and one from Politico. Looks like it will become the defining meme for BHO.

184 posted on 06/10/2010 1:22:20 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

That, and a Nancy Pelosi who lies as easily as she breathes, even in a sworn oath.

The HDOH has revealed that neither Nancy Pelosi nor anybody from the DNC has ever asked to see Obama’s authentic documentation from the HDOH. Yet she signed a sworn affidavit saying he is Constitutionally eligible to be the POTUS.

She needs to sit in a jail for a long time, starting about 2 years ago.


186 posted on 06/10/2010 1:23:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: rosettasister

Why would Mr. Adams risk his professional reputation when all he has is “his word against mine?”
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Hm?....Maybe because he is a **real** American, loves his country, and thinks the Constitution is more than a piece of toilet paper? ( Unlike the foreign usurper occupying the White House).


187 posted on 06/10/2010 1:24:39 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Red Steel

Do you think this is a white supremist scam? Has anyone checked into this?


188 posted on 06/10/2010 1:25:49 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: wintertime; Seizethecarp; LucyT; WhizCodger; Red Steel; theviking711

I second that! Great answer from “wintertime”.


189 posted on 06/10/2010 1:26:47 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
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To: wintertime

Because Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Bill O’Reilly. Levine, Ingram, Medved, and the rest, are phonies and/or cowards.

If they are phonies they will sell their talents to fascist oligarchy and spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.

If they are cowards, they are also FOOLS! Why? Because **NOW** is the time to confront evil because in the end the fascist oligarchy will carry out their threats, steal their money, and throw them off the air anyway!

If these phonies and cowards can’t defend the Constitution ( ALL of it!) when all they face is a little ridicule from the mainstream media, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY they will defend it with tanks in the streets, jack boots at the door, and gas ovens at the concentration camps going full-blast!


Wow

Great post Wintertime

Next time don’t hold back so much and tell us how you really feel.

I wonder how many American s will truly stand up when the jack boots march down the streets of their towns.

Or will they all be watching reality TV on their 52 inch Boob Tubes.?


George Orwell saw the future and it was very scary.

And then, in England, he starved to death (the unhonored prophet)


190 posted on 06/10/2010 1:28:34 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Scanian

Especially since they were at the time illegally hiding the administrative rules which show what the records were in compliance with.

They weren’t forced to post the administrative rules as required by state law until early November, 2009. A year after the election was over.

Fukino had Alvin Onaka take those rules off the lieut governor’s website, saying they were supposedly being “converted” - even though no new rules have even been proposed, much less are being transitioned in. And the HDOH itself took down their Administrative Rules from their website, where they were required by statute to be posted for the public to access.


191 posted on 06/10/2010 1:30:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: OafOfOffice

Better and better


192 posted on 06/10/2010 1:32:12 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: pissant
Point out one false statement in the piece please.

Don't know about false statements, but something is a little fishy:

Takahashi also confirmed Adams' time frame at the office from spring until the month of August.

"We hire temporary workers, because we're seasonal," he said.

So it sounds like Adams was a temporary worker.

However, when WND asked Takahashi if the elections office could check on birth records, he said, "We don't have access to that kind of records. [There's] no access to birth records."

Adams responded, "They may say, 'We don't have access to that.' The regular workers don't, the ones processing ballots; but the people in administration do. I was the one overseeing the work of the people doing the balloting."

But he was in administration and had access to a lot of data bases, not like those temporary workers.

You'd want to know how many "senior election clerks" there really were, and whether it really was an administrative post with access to all kinds of information, or just a way of giving a little status to a low-level supervisor of ordinary clerks who had a little more seniority and responsibility but no real authority or power.

From what I can tell, a senior election clerk might have contact with people who could find out such information, but his or her own job description doesn't involve access to confidential databases in other departments.

193 posted on 06/10/2010 1:35:07 PM PDT by x
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To: everyone
Please read this thread. Beware of Trojan Horses (Mod Lecture Series).
194 posted on 06/10/2010 1:36:20 PM PDT by McGruff (So how is that Hopey Changey thingy working out for ya America?)
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To: butterdezillion

What kills me is how many posters on this forum seriously believe that HI officials, including the governor, couldn’t be coerced into cooperating with Zer0 on concealing his BC (or lack thereof). How many state officials would dare go up against the WH for whatever reason? And I see no reason to believe that Lingle&Co. are particularly “profiles in courage.”


195 posted on 06/10/2010 1:42:49 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Dean? Pelosi? Feinstein? 50 state SoS’s who let the parties do the vetting?


196 posted on 06/10/2010 1:44:32 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: colorcountry

Thank you...I was thinking “Nordstrom.”


197 posted on 06/10/2010 1:45:45 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: OafOfOffice

thay are not ‘white supremist’ as in against ALL blacks, they are against muslim/sharia takeover of our christian heritage and wish to ban all mosques & Islamic practicing muslims from the US. They do not call for violence, they call for peaceful removal of them from the US.


198 posted on 06/10/2010 1:51:48 PM PDT by patlin
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To: wintertime

You and I know the hierarchies of Fox and Clear Channel have told them to leave it alone and I’m sure they have a contractural obligation to follow orders.

Those guys have been excellent in so many ways over the years that I don’t have it in me to condemn them for clamming up about something that sounds screwy to the average person to begin with and is certainly not something that the broadcasting powers that be want touched.

There are lots of rumors around about threats of license removal, imposition of “localism,” and revival of the Fairness Doctrine made by the WH and the FCC. Business is business, so I’m sure they made an informed business decision that it wasn’t worth it.

This thing is OUR baby — the blogosphere’s, 100%.


199 posted on 06/10/2010 1:52:13 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: OafOfOffice

Do not post that link again.


200 posted on 06/10/2010 1:52:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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