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Census: Minorities grow to 35% of U.S. population
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Posted on 06/10/2010 5:02:21 PM PDT by chessplayer

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DU`ers are all but flatly stating they hope all the whites in the US die.
1 posted on 06/10/2010 5:02:21 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

hispanic is NOT a race it’s a quasi nationality.

Half of all hispanics self identify as white, which means that the white population is actually exploding.


2 posted on 06/10/2010 5:05:22 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: chessplayer

A new round of “race wars” coming...not involving whites. Most minorities are very racist....very.


3 posted on 06/10/2010 5:06:08 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: chessplayer

And who did the census?

I often wonder why people come to America and immediately seek to turn it into the same shothole environment that they left.


4 posted on 06/10/2010 5:06:31 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: chessplayer
DU`ers are all but flatly stating they hope all the whites in the US die.

Once again, the liberals always sticking everyone in these little categorical boxes and pitting them against each other. The biggest enemy of liberalism, individualism.

5 posted on 06/10/2010 5:08:20 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: chessplayer

(James Carville voice) Whitey ain’t makin’ no babies while the minorities aur havin’ 3-5 rug rats pur fam’lay!


6 posted on 06/10/2010 5:10:35 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Tarpon
I often wonder why people come to America and immediately seek to turn it into the same shothole environment that they left.

Because most illegal immigrants are morons.

7 posted on 06/10/2010 5:13:37 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (If I don't like you, it's most likely your culture or your ideology that pissed me off.)
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To: chessplayer

There have always been a high number of minorities in the United States.

But over time , minorities have always been assimilated into the majority. Slovaks, Poles and other eastern Europeans were minorities, same with the Italians, Irish, Catholics, and others.

The difference now is that liberals would like to set “minority status” in stone, with the grievances of each minority a battle cry forever. The problem that they have with it, however, is that individuals really don’t want to be pegged forever into a subservient dependent role in the ghetto and will seek to work themselves into the established American culture.


8 posted on 06/10/2010 5:14:05 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: chessplayer

Any of that 35% legal?


9 posted on 06/10/2010 5:15:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Bush made me do it!" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If you truly believe that, then you’ll believe anything.

The flooding of the United States by foreign nationals has you under 50% in Texas, and you just pass that off as a lark.

You need to sit up and look at what the advocacy organizations for these people say.

It’s not your cuddly cousins bud.


10 posted on 06/10/2010 5:16:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

No it means we are over run with illegals.


11 posted on 06/10/2010 5:23:39 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: DoughtyOne
I am not advocating illegal immigration, if it were up to me I would round them all up by the millions and ship them by see to the furthest parts of south America during a hurricane.

What I am saying is these statistics are WRONG.

Hispanic does not = nonwhite

It just means they are from a central, south American or Caribbean island they could be black, white, Indian, Cuban, or a mix. And since HALF of all Hispanics self identify as white the minority population is NOT 35%. If 20% of the 35% are Hispanics and half of those are white then the minority population = 25%.

12 posted on 06/10/2010 5:37:53 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: chessplayer

In no time minorities will be the majority.


13 posted on 06/10/2010 5:39:19 PM PDT by eCSMaster (He promised hope; he gave us hype. He promised change; he gave us chains!)
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To: chessplayer

The census reports are already out? I thought it was still going on.


14 posted on 06/10/2010 5:45:01 PM PDT by Persevero (If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes?)
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To: chessplayer

For “minority”, read “government recognized victim group”. “Irish-American”, “left handed” and “broccoli lover” are minority categories, but they are lumped in with the majority.


15 posted on 06/10/2010 5:49:35 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: chessplayer

To be fair, all white Europeans are the original illegal immigrants. I do not think the native Indians gave them formal permission to enter the country and settle permanently.


16 posted on 06/10/2010 5:52:46 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: DoughtyOne; TexasFreeper2009

In the 1960’s while living in Chicago I dated a woman from Mexico who spoke broken English. She grew up speaking Spanish.

She had long straight blonde hair, blue eyes and fair complexion. If some idiot from census classifies her as a non-white minority, he needs a strong dose of brain elixir.


17 posted on 06/10/2010 5:58:16 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I thought there were three races. There is Caucasion, Negroid, and Mongoloid. Shouldn’t the Mexican people belong to the Mongoloid race the same as American Indians?


18 posted on 06/10/2010 6:04:11 PM PDT by timeflies
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Hispanics are a language group, not a race.


19 posted on 06/10/2010 6:04:53 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

And where did the “native indians” come from?


20 posted on 06/10/2010 6:06:01 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: I_Like_Spam

Tell that to the indians. White people were long a minority in what was to become the US. Assimilation only works if the newcomers accept it and the natives demand it. Neither seems to be the case today.

And none of the non-anglo European groups arrived in the same numbers that hispanics do nowadays. Nor did they feel that several US states really belonged to them while viewing Americans as the enemy. What the US faces today is completely diffrerent from previous waves of immigrants.


21 posted on 06/10/2010 6:10:33 PM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: Tarpon

Because illegal aliens are ignorant.

At least the Census will show us what areas: A) to avoid, and; B) where the first shots will be fired when it all collapses.


22 posted on 06/10/2010 6:20:48 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist with no rational argument.)
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To: snowrip

Liberalism is a disease.


23 posted on 06/10/2010 6:29:59 PM PDT by shanover (These are the times that try men's souls....tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered-T. Paine)
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To: chessplayer

i’m just shocked. you mean, the community organizing arm of the democrat party, ACORN, was able to ‘locate’ more minorities for the census? go figure.

and i would bet it was mostly in dem districts... therefore, their districts should receive more federal tax dollars

the corruption is just obvious


24 posted on 06/10/2010 6:39:44 PM PDT by sten
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

Can you show me the Native American immigration policy? a link will be fine.

Welcome to FR.

APf


25 posted on 06/10/2010 6:44:59 PM PDT by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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To: APFel

Are you under-informed? There were no formal documents in 1492 AD. But those arrows natives hurled at the invaders from Europe was concrete proof they were not welcome. Just ask general Custer if you do not believe me.


26 posted on 06/10/2010 6:54:52 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Also some stupid white folks are bragging that they did not fill their race on the 2010 census under the silly pretense “it is not the government business to know my race” and therefore since their race did not count as white then there would be less whites counted in the 2010 census than the real number of whites that exists in the country. I think it is really stupid that those folks did not fill the race in the 2010 census.
27 posted on 06/10/2010 6:55:30 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: timeflies

You are very well informed on the 3 races. However not all Mexicans have native Indian blood in them. A good percentage are pure Spaniards since Spain invaded Mexico big time.

And to my knowledge Spaniards are predominantly “white” except for the few who have some Moorish blood.

Lot of people do not know for example than Iranians belong to Caucasian race. There is no such race as Iranian if you have been a student of anthropology.


28 posted on 06/10/2010 7:00:59 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: chessplayer

In America, talking about race is verboten, unless of course you are in a protected class. It is impossible to have a rational discussion about race in public, because if you don’t say what is considered “correct”, you will be shouted down and ridiculed as a racist without due process.

While race can be corellated to an outcome, culture is a much more accurate indicator of success in a society or civilization. Races are often associated with particular cultures, but in reality that is not the case. For example, the Germanic tribes of northern europe, largerly responsible for the fall of Rome, were almost genetically identical to their southern cousins, but their civiliations were radically far apart. In Rome, people lived in homes of masonry bricks and had indoor plumbing. In Trier, they lived in mud-thatch huts and dug holes for their sewage.

The problem is, in this country, there are huge divides among large portions of our population. We all know what these are: Whites, Blacks and Hispanics.

Blacks started off here as slaves, therefore, they really don’t have a culture in real historical terms, and didn’t get much say in the formation of our Constitution. The black american culture is unique in the modern world and there really isn’t much history for comparison.

The Hispanic migration into the USA in only the last few years numbers in the 10s of millions. To think this won’t have an impact on American culture and its governmental insitutions is naive. The New World cultures of latin america have suffered over the last century in a succession of bannana republics and tinpot dictators. The succession roughly works out like this: popular revolution, socialism, government failure, military takeover, tin pot dicatotor, repeat and rinse again.

I’ll leave it to everyone to form their own opinion about the value and advancement of each ot these cultures, but the fact is, the cultural element that created the conditions for the formation of our Constitution, no longer exist. I don’t pose this as a question of value, its just a simple fact.

I think the only way America survives our problems and remains great, is for those groups who migrate here, or are descendants of former slaves, to see the value in the forefather’s vision regardless of race.

The institutions that are responsible for teaching the growing demographic groups in our country about the philosophical underpinnings of the american way of life, are doing exactly the opposite. They cast the forefathers as evil greedy racists and toss their wisdom out with it. Which includes Roman-Greco and Judeo-Christian beliefs that are the foundations and unique concotion that led to America;s rapid ascendancy to the greatest nation in the history of the world. Not only do they dismiss the sucess of these ideas and beliefs, they breed contempt for them.

I pray that God opens all our people’s eyes to the beauty of liberty and freedom, regardless of race, because freedom is the only path to harmony with your fellow man. And the rabid appreciation of freedom is truly unique to American culture. Therein lies our hope, not for a race, but for humanity. If these demographic groups choose the failed policies of Mao and Castro, we have a future of starvation and suffering ahead.


29 posted on 06/10/2010 7:05:34 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: alarm rider

They are believed to have come from Asia crossing the land bridge between the two continents.

However....and this is important....THERE WAS NO HUMANS LIVING IN AMERICA prior to the arrival of native Indians. Therefore they were not illegal immigrants.


30 posted on 06/10/2010 7:13:11 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I understand that differentiation and I agree with it.

None the less, under the present conditions, we can’t exactly forbid ourselves to reference Hispanic, because there really isn’t another term to address with inclusion all that are here illegally. Even that definition doesn’t address all of them, but it’s the closest descriptor we have.

If we start nuancing ourselves to death, we’ll get nowhere.

I don’t want to describe this situation as “Mexicans” every time I open my mouth. I realize that from 65 to 75% of our illegal problems are associated with Mexico, but as you say, other Central and South Americans are also involved here.

So we’ll either have to agree to disagree or we’ll be at each others throats instead of focusing on the problematic people who deserve our attention.

I appreciate your nice reply. I don’t mean to be a jerk to you, but this issue has been on my radar from one degree or another for 25 years. And while we allowed this to fester because almost nobody would take it serious, we have been severely compromised.


31 posted on 06/10/2010 7:56:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

Well, I understand your point. If she came here legally and is a U.S. Citizen, she’s not that much different than you and I, except that her birth loyalty is to another nation. Thus she may be very sympathetic to the plight of people who wish to make excuses for breaking our laws and abusing our citizens.

I actually have less sympathy for those who enable law breaking as a citizen, than I do the actual illegal immigrants. And I don’t have much patience with that at all.

Thank you for the mention. It is strange to think of Mexican citizens like the one you mention, but there are actually many of them.

If she spoke English I would be a lot more inclined to accept her as one of our own. If I went to Mexico, it wouldn’t be six months before I would be fluent in Spanish and speak like a native. IMO, that would be the respectful thing to do.


32 posted on 06/10/2010 8:01:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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Are you under-informed? There were no formal documents in 1492 AD.

Really? You're KIDDING!/s

You may have noticed that most countries have those documents NOW. or are YOU under-informed?

But those arrows natives hurled at the invaders from Europe was concrete proof they were not welcome. Just ask general Custer if you do not believe me.

Are you advocating violence to protect our borders in order to provide that "concrete proof"? That must mean you are in favor of the killing of the fifteen year old on the border. YOU INHUMAN MONSTER!!!!! /s

PS- The battle of Little Big Horn was well after 1492. And well away from Puerto Rico. Yeah, you seem to be a bit on the cretinous side.

I'll bet your time on this site can be measured in days, if not hours. Good luck.

APf

33 posted on 06/10/2010 8:16:20 PM PDT by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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To: DoughtyOne

By definition those who came here illegally have already broken a law. Even if they are performing useful, low paid jobs, I still am against amnesty. They should go back and wait in line just like millions from several countries around the world are doing.

Laws can not be obeyed selectively. That is a slippery slope to anarchy.

I concur with you that once one acquires American citizenship, one must be loyal to this country and put it ahead of country of origin.


34 posted on 06/10/2010 8:43:17 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Here in southwest Washington state there are loads of illegal Russians. Many of them do not speak any English. When they come for medical treatment at our facility, the tax payers provide paid translators to accompany them.


35 posted on 06/10/2010 8:52:45 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

Point taken, but to say there were no humans living in America prior to Indians is to assume that there are records/proof showing same. You cannot make that assumption.


36 posted on 06/11/2010 5:50:42 AM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

At this point I’m all for people going back and there being no line whatsoever to get back in.

We have been so gourged with foreign nationals over the last thirty years, we need to end all immigration for 20 years to assimilate who we have.

This includes reinforcing the need to support the U.S. and show loyalty to it over just about anything else. Family and religion would come first, as long as the religion were not primarily anti-U.S. If it were anti-U.S. then it should be closed, and it’s members sent packing.

I’m not talking about religious persecution here. I’m talking about organized subversion with the intent to overturn the present United States.

We’ve got some real problems brewing in this nation.


37 posted on 06/11/2010 10:12:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

There are things going on that are just mind-numbing.

There are new reports every day with things that should never have gotten to this point.

Those people should be loaded up and deported.

If they are here illegally, they should be on the first boat out.


38 posted on 06/11/2010 10:35:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: alarm rider

Have you heard of any group of people living in North America prior to arrival of American Indians? Has any anthropological evidence been dug up to prove such people existed? I am not aware of any but I am not a professor of anthropology so I could be wrong.

Getting back to our original subject, I still contend Europeans were the first wave of illegal immigrants in the eyes of native Americans. Do I wish to send them back to Europe? NO!!!

The European invaders made USA what it is today. They worked and contributed in creation of the best country in the world at least until now. After Obama gets through with it who knows.

Next point, do I condone next wave of illegal immigrants? NO!! United States is no longer under populated. We only need highly educated & skilled immigrants now who can contribute to enhance prosperity & living standards. We certainly do not need unskilled, criminals, welfare type people coming here.


39 posted on 06/11/2010 1:59:46 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist
We are mostly in agreement.

I do not agree that a largely nomadic people, composed of many separate tribal communities constitutes a country, a union, a shared political or social philosophy or a single united people. Therefore, Europeans could not have been “the first wave of illegal immigrants”.

40 posted on 06/11/2010 5:29:23 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: I_Like_Spam

“Minority” being a convenient invention of the left to control and bait. What is a “minority?” How about left handers, people with auburn hair, or those with ring fingers longer than their middle fingers? People who like sardines, or anchovies? Stamp collectors, model airplane builders, or Trekies? We can all shoehorn ourselves into some “minority” category using the leftist playbook. Does that mean we get goodies?


41 posted on 07/05/2010 12:51:27 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: timeflies
I thought there were three races.

You are going off outdated information, when reason somewhat ruled before the advent of political correctness washed over this country.

Don't you know that "urban black" and "gay" are now races?

42 posted on 07/05/2010 12:55:33 PM PDT by fwdude
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I think it is really stupid that those folks did not fill the race in the 2010 census.

I penciled in European American.

We are a minority and I demand benefits.

43 posted on 07/05/2010 1:03:00 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: chessplayer

“DU`ers are all but flatly stating they hope all the whites in the US die.”

What those useful idiots will never realize is that most of our new ‘immigrants’ hate them too!

“Miguel Perez, President of Cal-State Northridge’s MEChA chapter said, “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”

From: http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/is_america_conquered_when_the.html


44 posted on 07/05/2010 1:09:02 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist

“To be fair, all white Europeans are the original illegal immigrants. I do not think the native Indians gave them formal permission to enter the country and settle permanently.”

Under your definition, all white Europeans were not ‘immigrants’, they were invaders.

And yes, at first the Europeans were given permission. Then they took it ALL...just like these present day invaders will do if it isn’t stopped!


45 posted on 07/05/2010 1:13:26 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: All

how much of this is from fake census forms or simply lying.


46 posted on 07/05/2010 1:14:23 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LastNorwegian

“Tell that to the indians. White people were long a minority in what was to become the US. Assimilation only works if the newcomers accept it and the natives demand it. Neither seems to be the case today.

And none of the non-anglo European groups arrived in the same numbers that hispanics do nowadays. Nor did they feel that several US states really belonged to them while viewing Americans as the enemy. What the US faces today is completely diffrerent from previous waves of immigrants.”

Well said!


47 posted on 07/05/2010 1:15:08 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: jveritas

“Also some stupid white folks are bragging that they did not fill their race on the 2010 census under the silly pretense “it is not the government business to know my race” and therefore since their race did not count as white then there would be less whites counted in the 2010 census than the real number of whites that exists in the country. I think it is really stupid that those folks did not fill the race in the 2010 census.”

Hey, Jv, I trust you had a great Independence Day!

I put on the census: AMERICAN, Mixed race.

What did you tell them?


48 posted on 07/05/2010 1:17:27 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: chessplayer
Lawless open borders and uncontrolled chain immigration will eventually leave America dead on the floor.

Ironic isn't it?

49 posted on 07/05/2010 1:20:04 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: AuntB

Right you are! The invaders across southern border are
very fertile people and can outbreed any one!! I think
we are already at the point of no return. Hispanics will
become the majority and whites will be the minority sooner
than you think.


50 posted on 07/05/2010 1:20:26 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Obama never ran even a hot dog stand but now he is running the entire country?)
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