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BP oil spill: Is Barack Obama the man for a crisis?
telegraph.co.uk ^ | June 11, 2010 | Alex Spillius

Posted on 06/11/2010 4:11:40 AM PDT by rdl6989

Many Americans who elected Barack Obama thought George W Bush was too much the cowboy. After eight years of Texas swagger and a shoot-first-ask-questions-later foreign policy, voters craved the more considered, cerebral and often inspirational persona of a big city law professor. Now, in the midst of a real crisis, they are having second thoughts.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: academic; bho44; noleader; obama; oilspill; unexperienced
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1 posted on 06/11/2010 4:11:41 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989

Answer: No!


2 posted on 06/11/2010 4:11:54 AM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989
BP oil spill: Is Barack Obama the man for a crisis?

Probably not. But the only ones who seem to be less capable than Obama of handling the crisis are the BP management.

3 posted on 06/11/2010 4:13:15 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: rdl6989
“….. thirteen entities had offered the U.S. oil spill
assistance within about two weeks of the Horizon rig explosion. They were the
governments of Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico, the Netherlands,
Norway, Romania, Republic of Korea, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the
United Nations.
The U.S. response - Thank you, but no thank you, we've got it.
‘..While there is no need right now that the U.S. cannot meet, the U.S. Coast Guard is
assessing these offers of assistance to see if there will be something which we will need
in the near future.’”

Actually - it was at least 17 countries ignored by Pres_ _ent Obama.

Obama pride, MSM hide, Patriots tried ... America died.

4 posted on 06/11/2010 4:16:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: rdl6989

A Cub Scout has more leadership ability than B.H. Obama.


5 posted on 06/11/2010 4:18:38 AM PDT by comps4spice (Microsoft: Putting the MS in MSNBC)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Probably not. But the only ones who seem to be less capable than Obama of handling the crisis are the BP manageme”

So you’d take a guy who’s built a small gazebo over group of people with an average of 30 years experience in the oil industry?


6 posted on 06/11/2010 4:19:54 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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7 posted on 06/11/2010 4:19:57 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: rdl6989; All
"BP oil spill: Is Barack Obama the man for a crisis?"

Obama Video Game

8 posted on 06/11/2010 4:21:32 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: driftdiver

My motto is ‘be angry but be rational’.


9 posted on 06/11/2010 4:23:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: musicman

10 posted on 06/11/2010 4:26:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: rdl6989

If I smelled smoke in my place, thinking there was a fire someplace, I’d shuttle Obama out the front door...he could wave for the fire trucks. But no more than that. He would be in my way, as I rounded up other people, documents, valuables, etc.

Translation = he would be treated like a six year old that had to be given a grown up “job” to do, in order to keep them out of my hair.


11 posted on 06/11/2010 4:26:54 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: cripplecreek

“My motto is ‘be angry but be rational’.”

Sounds better than choosing BO for any purpose.


12 posted on 06/11/2010 4:28:25 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rdl6989

I know a woman through family that still likes Obama. When she changes her mind about him, I’ll be optimistic.


13 posted on 06/11/2010 4:29:39 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: rdl6989

Written by Alex Spillius. Cool name...


14 posted on 06/11/2010 4:30:22 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: rdl6989

uh....give me the COWBOY.....he was at least an ADULT, and not a Party Boy President!


15 posted on 06/11/2010 4:30:47 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: driftdiver
“My motto is ‘be angry but be rational’.”

No, I think be RATIONAL, then if there's anything left and when it is over, get angry. The problem we've got, folks put anger first and it interferes with rationality.

16 posted on 06/11/2010 4:31:21 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: Diogenesis

17 posted on 06/11/2010 4:33:15 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

‘No, I think be RATIONAL, then if there’s anything left and when it is over, get angry. The problem we’ve got, folks put anger first and it interferes with rationality.”

Only if you’ve got anger control issues. For most people it is entirely possible to be angry and rational. Righteous thoughtful anger at the damage to the gulf, wetlands, fisheries, business, tourism, lives and so on.

Oh and then the righteous anger at what the enviro-whacko’s will do to stop future drilling for energy we need.


18 posted on 06/11/2010 4:34:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Diogenesis
Remember how everyone in the MSM used to complain about the "unilateralism" of the Bush administration...?

Obama, on the other hand, was supposed the guy with the proper "internationalist" mindset...?

Here, we desperately need all the help we can get, and Obama tells everyone trying to offer us a helping hand to "stuff it".

19 posted on 06/11/2010 4:36:07 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: driftdiver
So you’d take a guy who’s built a small gazebo over group of people with an average of 30 years experience in the oil industry?

No I'm saying that 30 years experience or no experience, neither one seems to have a clue on how to deal with the crisis.

20 posted on 06/11/2010 4:36:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Daisyjane69
“voters craved the more considered, cerebral and often inspirational persona”

Really? I've not seen any evidence of any of those qualities in POSER. In fact, every day he reveals more and more that he's a fraud. He reads words other people write. Off teleprompter, he's a stuttering, stammering fool.
People that believe Obama is an example of “cerebral” have spent way too much time watching Jerry Springer.

21 posted on 06/11/2010 4:36:27 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: rdl6989
Definitely, resoundingly, NO! In fact, obama is a man best suited for ... Well, ya got me there. I don't know what obama is really qualified for.
22 posted on 06/11/2010 4:38:47 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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I don't know what obama is really qualified for.

A balm for liberal white guilt?

23 posted on 06/11/2010 4:41:42 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: rdl6989

THE ARTICLES BIG LAUGH LINE:As Politico, a Washington insiders’ paper put it, he has failed to “rouse the American people to turn their hearts toward the Gulf and to assure them that their world – still built on the plentiful supply of fossil fuels – is not falling apart”.


24 posted on 06/11/2010 4:41:45 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Non-Sequitur

“No I’m saying that 30 years experience or no experience, neither one seems to have a clue on how to deal with the crisis. “

I don’t expect BO to have a clue so thats not disappointing. He’s never had a clue so the expectation is low.

I would wager BP could easily have handled this spill if it were on land or in shallow water. Environmentalists have forced drilling deep offshore which is making this much more difficult.

I don’t really blame BP for having trouble fixing it, its a tough problem. I blame them for taking shortcuts leading to the disaster and not being prepared.


25 posted on 06/11/2010 4:41:48 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rdl6989
Answer: No!

Answer: Yes, "the Won" created the crisis.

(BP caused the gusher)

26 posted on 06/11/2010 4:46:10 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: driftdiver

I am thinking that out of sheer incompetence 0’s bureaucrats have put every roadblock possible in the way of BP solving this and doing what they do best.


27 posted on 06/11/2010 4:47:57 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: rdl6989

He is not a leader. He is not an alpha male. Everyone senses it - that’s what causes a lot of that feeling of disconnect with him. When we think “President” we think “Leader”. When we see Obama we see follower. He’s not Martin Luther King talking about having a dream. At best, he’s the guy in the background shouting “say it, brother”.

To use an analogy, if this was Braveheart he is not Longshanks. He is the whiney son longing to come to power but being too weak to sieze it. He feels he is owed reverence and deference without realizing that the world demands you to earn it.


28 posted on 06/11/2010 4:49:55 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I can see November from my house!)
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Add Carol Browner to this list of incompetent dipshinolas! I just saw her on FOX being asked about why she hasn't lifted the JONES ACT so others could help with the oil spill. She said she wasn't ask by the Admiral of the Coastguard to do so, and then they show a clip of him basically saying the administration hasn't asked him to do anything about it!

These leftist are destroying our way of life with their idiocy and we are just sitting back letting it happen...If this doesn't change in Nov we are screwed!!

29 posted on 06/11/2010 4:54:59 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: billorites

bad adventure

30 posted on 06/11/2010 4:56:46 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: rdl6989

“big city law professor.”
No ‘Professor’ Obama at U. of C.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/867973,CST-NWS-sweet30.article

Not a professor, not a cowboy, not a leader.


31 posted on 06/11/2010 5:01:38 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: rdl6989

Well, if I wanted to create and extend a crisis, 0 is the go to guy.


32 posted on 06/11/2010 5:05:23 AM PDT by kenth
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To: rdl6989

“BP oil spill: Is Barack Obama the man for a crisis?”

Zero is a man? I thought Michelle was the man in the house.


33 posted on 06/11/2010 5:06:01 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: rdl6989

Thanks for the article. If only the U. S. press was as accurate about this situation.

To me, Obama always seems to be jockeying for position. He doesn’t hold the same values that most Americans do (and neither do his advisors), so they have to guess at how they should respond to situations in which they are trying to sway public opinion.

Saying “hope and change” (vague concepts left to the listener to define) over and over worked for them during the campaign, but when a real crisis presents itself, they are missing the skill set (as the article so succinctly puts it) to meet it.


34 posted on 06/11/2010 5:07:58 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: Non-Sequitur

BP is doing the best thing, drilling the relief wells. Hopefully they won’t cut corners this time. lol. In the meantime, they’re trying to capture as much oil as possible. Could have they done better. Most likely, but 0 is orders of magnitude more incompetent.


35 posted on 06/11/2010 5:08:04 AM PDT by kenth
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To: ThunderSleeps

And on top of that I will honor him as he honors our Flag and Country.


36 posted on 06/11/2010 5:08:45 AM PDT by mcshot (The compounding nightmare is never-ending and growing.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
What is the one thing 0 and BP have in common?

Answer: He is a lawyer and ALL of BP’s response systems are being run by lawyers. Lawyers are the bane of our society.

37 posted on 06/11/2010 5:09:33 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't go chasing waterfalls.....)
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To: driftdiver

Both parties are to blame for the oil disaster. There are supposed to be disaster plans by both parties. Nothing was done for weeks.

I agree with what you are saying about the eco-nuts being responsible for offshore drilling. We should be drilling on land or shallow waters where the spill could be easily contained. And, we should be drilling for natural gas.


38 posted on 06/11/2010 5:10:47 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: rdl6989

Survey says...NO!

39 posted on 06/11/2010 5:12:44 AM PDT by McGruff (So how is that Hopey Changey thingy working out for ya America?)
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To: rdl6989

Obama is not the man you would trust to turn the water hose off after he washed your car.


40 posted on 06/11/2010 5:18:54 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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Obambi is the type of “man” that would have his wife remove a tick from his privates.
41 posted on 06/11/2010 5:31:05 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: driftdiver
I don’t expect BO to have a clue so thats not disappointing. He’s never had a clue so the expectation is low.

I don't believe that Obama could successfully organize a two car funeral.

I don’t really blame BP for having trouble fixing it, its a tough problem. I blame them for taking shortcuts leading to the disaster and not being prepared.

Agreed. And can we also agree that BPs has full liability in this?

42 posted on 06/11/2010 5:32:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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43 posted on 06/11/2010 5:52:34 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Non-Sequitur; All

I work at a large BP research site many miles from the Golf.
Please reaccess your views on BP. Their talent pool is wide and deep.
There are engineers from other company’s from around the globe working here.
Having worked at the U of C and Argonne National Labs they all have a similar ‘feel’.
From my low level view it appears that BP plays nice with others, example: Lacking space for a command center they moved in with Shell.

At a recent update meeting the presenter was so stressed I thought she might collapse. The people here care.


44 posted on 06/11/2010 6:13:22 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
The people here care.

And I've no doubt they do. But BP caused the problem, and may be paying for some poor corporate decisions that led to the disaster. It's clear that they did not properly assess the risk, nor did they develop any serious plans to mitigate the problems once the risk became an issue. It may have been managements fault, but you and your coworkers are the ones paying for their failings.

45 posted on 06/11/2010 6:24:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: rdl6989
Formula for a crisis

BP + BO = BS

46 posted on 06/11/2010 7:13:53 AM PDT by tophat9000 (It ain't about Black... It ain't about White...It's about a Red...Trying to take our rights!)
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To: rdl6989
Formula for a disaster... BP + BO = BS
47 posted on 06/11/2010 7:19:01 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

It is now apparent that the risk analysis before the event was poor at best.
What I would like known is that after the accident BP moved as hard and fast as possible.The very best are working on the problems.

Adding to the injury our government appears not to help but hinder the effort.

U.S. and BP slow to accept Dutch expertise | Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/deepwaterhorizon/7043272.html


48 posted on 06/11/2010 7:20:36 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Yes, we're all paying for the cruel failing of "inferior superior", so y'all have to deal with us being mad as hell for quite awhile.

In fact not being mad about bullcrap is exactly what got us into this doomsday scenario.

Y'all ain't so smart as you thought.

This the Deep Hot Biosphere(Thomas Gold) , babycake!

This ain't no fooling around!

Tony BP took the cap off the radiator of a big hot car!

20,000 - 70,000 psi!

So stupid to think your little haystraw pipes would hold that, their used to maybe 1500.

So what we got that ain't being told is many fissure cracks all the way up from the deep, seepin' crude over 20 miles of sea floor.

These wells must be left alone for now.

Anyway, they replenish the ones above, so there's no reason to poke your childish stick in them anyway.

49 posted on 06/11/2010 7:22:26 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: norraad

http://www.youtube.com/user/consequences#p/u/1/IXeygpeELWc


50 posted on 06/11/2010 7:23:41 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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