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Joran van der Sloot Charged with Murder of Stephany Flores (And he's off to a Peruvian prison...)
CBS ^ | 6/11/10 | CBS/AP

Posted on 06/11/2010 9:27:32 AM PDT by jimbo123

Joran van der Sloot has been charged with murder in the slaying of 21-year-old Stephany Flores.

Peruvian judge Juan Buendia has ordered van der Sloot jailed on murder and robbery charges, and described van der Sloot as having acted with "ferocity and great cruelty."

Police say van der Sloot smashed in the face of Lima business student Stephany Flores, whom he met playing poker at a casino, after taking her to his hotel room on May 30. They say he then strangled her, threw her to the floor and emptied her wallet.

Buendia issued the order before dawn Friday, instructing penal authorities to place the Dutchman in a penitentiary pending trial.

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Looks like tonight is going to be van der Sloot's wedding night.
1 posted on 06/11/2010 9:27:33 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I’m not an expert in Dutch or Peruvian law but was wondering if this scenario is possible:

He confesses to the Natalee Halloway murder and proves it by giving up the location of the body which is found.
Can he then be extradited back to Aruba to be tried and serve sentence for the first murder he committed before having to return to Peru to serve sentence on the last murder committed?

The answer may shed light on his tactics...


2 posted on 06/11/2010 9:31:22 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: jimbo123

Someone said this girls father can hire someone inside the prison to kill Van der Sloot for very little money.


3 posted on 06/11/2010 9:32:09 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Teflonic

I think that is his strategy. More likely his lawyers.


4 posted on 06/11/2010 9:33:22 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: jimbo123

“Si, buenos noches, Senor van der Sloot! Que guapo!”

Man, I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes.

“I hear a train a’ comin’, comin’ round the bend...”


5 posted on 06/11/2010 9:34:32 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: beckysueb
Not just the girl's father but ANYBODY.

They said $50.

Van der Sloot will probably hire professional protection though. So there you are!

6 posted on 06/11/2010 9:35:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jimbo123

Joran's grooms eagerly await his arrival.

7 posted on 06/11/2010 9:35:14 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: beckysueb

I bet a lot of people would do him for free.


8 posted on 06/11/2010 9:35:51 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

It’s a shame his father isn’t around to give away the bride.


9 posted on 06/11/2010 9:35:58 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Teflonic

He will probably be transferred back to Aruba to stand trial for the murder of Natalie Holloway and the authorities there will conveniently turn their heads long enough for him to slip away and into obscurity. Then his mommy will keep him hidden and support him till she dies.


10 posted on 06/11/2010 9:36:33 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: RexBeach

Barbara: [whistles] Nice butt. That’s what they’ll say.
Ken Kessler: I beg your pardon?
Barbara: Nice butt. That’s what they’ll say on your first day, in the men’s club.
Ken Kessler: The men’s club?
Barbara: Mmm. The San Quentin Country Club. With a cute little rear end like that, you’ll be the belle of the ball. Your dance card’ll be filled every day. You’ll be so popular, making all kinds of new, close friends. Big, ugly, hairy friends! Not that you’ll ever see what they look like, ‘cause you’ll be facing the other way.
Ken Kessler: You’re very good at this. You should write children’s books.


11 posted on 06/11/2010 9:36:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: beckysueb

I haven’t heard it mentioned in the news cirsuit so was thinking I just didn’t know their laws well enough. Heads will explode if he pulls it off!


12 posted on 06/11/2010 9:37:35 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Teflonic

He said he will reveal the location of Natalie’s body if he is brought back to Aruba.

I just don’t see Peru giving him this opportunity.


13 posted on 06/11/2010 9:38:05 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Teflonic

Better idea:

Wait until he’s been in a Peru prison for one year.
Then tell him if he gives evidence resulting in the recovery of Natalee’s remains, he can have a pack of smokes.

You can’t give a sociopath leverage!


14 posted on 06/11/2010 9:38:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats expedite the Destruction of America)
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To: beckysueb

Peru will hold onto him. He may not face trial in Aruba until after he is sentenced in Peru. It ain’t like the old USA. Penetentiary on a pre-trial basis ought to take the starch out of this puke.

Peruvian prisons are not nice. Anyone remember that lefty woman about ten years ago who got convicted in Peru? They put her in a prison on a mountaintop...without glass in the windows. Newsweek and Time made much of the horrible conditions a non-Peruvian was suffering under, because she froze her rear off, and had little access to blankets, etc. I am sure they are cooking up something nice for Van der Puke, too.


15 posted on 06/11/2010 9:38:40 AM PDT by PrkChps
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To: Teflonic

Aruba was very lenient with him before. I think his parents were bigwigs in Aruba.


16 posted on 06/11/2010 9:38:54 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Teflonic
Can he then be extradited back to Aruba to be tried and serve sentence for the first murder he committed before having to return to Peru to serve sentence on the last murder committed?

That may be his hope. But Peru would have to extradite him first. And I don't see them doing that after he murdered the daughter of a former presidential candidate.

17 posted on 06/11/2010 9:39:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: beckysueb

Either that or he will get the first “life without parole” sentence in Aruba enabling him to have a private jail condo with all amenities avoiding the Peruvian hell.


18 posted on 06/11/2010 9:39:42 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: beckysueb
Someone said this girls father can hire someone inside the prison to kill Van der Sloot for very little money.

Considering what we know of Peruvian prisons, that may be the most merciful thing the father can do. Better to let him live...and suffer.

19 posted on 06/11/2010 9:40:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: PrkChps

I certainly hope Peru holds on to him.


20 posted on 06/11/2010 9:40:27 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Even if the Dutch authorities sweeten the pot with favorable trade or simply a cash bailout offered to Peru? He seems to be somewhat of a hero to the Dutch even now.


21 posted on 06/11/2010 9:42:29 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Non-Sequitur

The punk ain’t such a tough guy now. I heard on the news he called his mother crying that he was being mistreated.


22 posted on 06/11/2010 9:42:49 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: jimbo123
Joran is going to get an up close and personal look at the “Peruvian Special”. If he's still alive he won't be doing much walking.
23 posted on 06/11/2010 9:43:00 AM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: beckysueb
The punk ain’t such a tough guy now. I heard on the news he called his mother crying that he was being mistreated.

ROTFLMAO!!! I guarantee him that the mistreatment hasn't even begun. Mrs. van der Sloot's little boy Joran is in for quite a ride once he gets to prison.

24 posted on 06/11/2010 9:45:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Teflonic
Even if the Dutch authorities sweeten the pot with favorable trade or simply a cash bailout offered to Peru? He seems to be somewhat of a hero to the Dutch even now.

He killed the daughter of a presidential candidate. I don't think the government will overlook that too easily.

25 posted on 06/11/2010 9:47:30 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: beckysueb

I hope that’s true. Save the Peruvian taxpayers from having to pay this vile creature’s room and board and trial expenses.

And authorities should ignore his new claims to be able to tell them the location of Holloway’s body, unless they’re prepared to shoot him on the spot if it isn’t where he says it is. He already played that sick game once before, and a lot of other sick games. If he’d been locked up for lying to investigators and lying to the media in an attempt to derail the investigation, he wouldn’t have been in a position to murder Flores (or the other young women that are now thought to have possibly been murdered by him).


26 posted on 06/11/2010 9:49:49 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Non-Sequitur
Joran is in for quite a ride once he gets to prison.

...in more ways than one.

27 posted on 06/11/2010 9:50:20 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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To: jimbo123
I wonder if he ever saw Midnight Express?
28 posted on 06/11/2010 9:50:29 AM PDT by fso301
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To: jimbo123

Let the Donkey treatment begin.


29 posted on 06/11/2010 9:50:48 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Here is something you can't understand...")
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To: fso301

"Joran, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"

30 posted on 06/11/2010 9:52:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Carley
He said he will reveal the location of Natalie’s body if he is brought back to Aruba.

He also said he lies >60% of the time. Is this also a lie?

31 posted on 06/11/2010 9:53:47 AM PDT by NautiNurse (ObamaCare uses Bernie Madoff theory of economics)
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To: beckysueb

He is going to find out that the definition of mistreated has many facets


32 posted on 06/11/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by italianquaker (obama all hat no cattle)
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He is going to find out that the definition of mistreated has many facets

Sure do hope the other inmates don't try to intrude on his privacy.

33 posted on 06/11/2010 9:59:55 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Teflonic
I am no expert myself, but as some of my Peruvian friends tell me he is not in Aruba anymore. I think they may know what goes on there as they are some kind of ex government people and say Peru will hold on to him no matter what, In other wordś Peru don give a flip what the rest of the world thinks. Soundś good to me.
34 posted on 06/11/2010 10:01:51 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: dfwgator

LOL!!!


35 posted on 06/11/2010 10:01:56 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: jimbo123

Known to his new boyfriend as Urine in der Chute.


36 posted on 06/11/2010 10:03:14 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Lees Swrd

That’s good news, was afraid Peru may have a provision allowing extradition for crimes committed previously.


37 posted on 06/11/2010 10:04:28 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: jimbo123

I saw a “Locked Up Abroad” episode of a prison in Lima, Peru. Van Der Sloot’s comfort level just plummeted..


38 posted on 06/11/2010 10:07:20 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Obama- 21st Century Edsel)
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To: dfwgator; fso301

Billy Hayes aka “Crazy” was a friend of mine at Marquette.


39 posted on 06/11/2010 10:10:51 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: jimbo123
So the Van Der Sloot defense strategy is to give him as much press as possible in order to insure he doesn't get injured in jail prior to his sentencing.

Let's see if the Peruvians give a crap about the celebrity status Joran is enjoying.

40 posted on 06/11/2010 10:11:26 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: jimbo123

"Looks like white meat is back on the menu, boys!"
41 posted on 06/11/2010 10:11:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“or the other young women that are now thought to have possibly been murdered by him”

When this story first came out, and the 5 year “anniversary” date was given, I suggested that investigators should find out where Urine was every year on that date, and investigate any murders or disappearances. Do you have any other info/links about “other young women?”


42 posted on 06/11/2010 10:16:31 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Teflonic
This guy needś to be stopped period. I just hope Peru does not let the world influence them as we see so much of it lately.
43 posted on 06/11/2010 10:19:10 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2530485/posts
44 posted on 06/11/2010 10:26:04 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I saw some mention in an article within the past few days that authorities in some South American country were looking into whether he might be responsible for the unsolved murders of two young women there. I don’t recall any more details.


45 posted on 06/11/2010 10:29:22 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Teflonic
Can he then be extradited back to Aruba to be tried and serve sentence for the first murder he committed before having to return to Peru to serve sentence on the last murder committed?

In theory, yes.

In reality, Aruba and even Holland do not do enough business with Peru to warrant an extradition of someone who murdered any Peruvian citizen - let alone a popular Peruvian celebrity's daughter.

I'm sure Peru's answer will be that they will be happy to hand him over as soon as he's served his Peruvian time.

I'm guessing that Peruvian prosecutors will argue that both Aruba and the FBI had the opportunity to arrest him and convict him and they squandered their opportunities - and, as a result, he was walking around free to murder Miss Flores.

I'd add that a lot of posters here seem to think that he will suffer deeply in prison in Peru.

However, compared to most Peruvian inmates, he is fabulously wealthy. If his mother can get enough money into him to keep his fellow inmates supplied with contraband, etc. he will likely be able to buy protection. Also, at 6'3", he is young, strong and physically bigger than most Peruvians.

His time in prison will be brutal by our standards, but probably not what he deserves.

46 posted on 06/11/2010 10:30:08 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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Too bad most of his country men arent joining him. Stories of “how she (halloway) deserved it being an American” abounded at the time.


47 posted on 06/11/2010 10:31:20 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I think it was Argentina.


48 posted on 06/11/2010 10:37:23 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: jimbo123

In a discussion I heard from attorneys who seemed to know, it was stated that Joran had pled guilty to cut a deal for a shorter sentence. And, it was said that with good behavior, he could be out in eight years, around age 30.

All the others comments aside, that is pretty amazing if he could be out in eight years.


49 posted on 06/11/2010 10:39:26 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Teflonic
I’m not an expert in Dutch or Peruvian law but was wondering if this scenario is possible: He confesses to the Natalee Halloway murder and proves it by giving up the location of the body which is found. Can he then be extradited back to Aruba to be tried and serve sentence for the first murder he committed before having to return to Peru to serve sentence on the last murder committed?

I'm no expert either, but from what I have read, there is no extradition treaty under which he could be sent back to Aruba. Supposedly the Dutch and Peru have one in the works but it has not yet been ratified.

The US and Peru have such a treaty, in theory he could be sent here to face the extortion charges, but I doubt it would happen anytime soon given the identity of the victim. Unless Peru decides it is just too much trouble to deal with him. I would imagine the US govt would love to get its hands on this slimebag.

50 posted on 06/11/2010 10:45:09 AM PDT by freespirited (There are a lot of bad Republicans but there are no good Democrats.--Ann Coulter)
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