"Looks like white meat is back on the menu, boys!"
Posted on 06/11/2010 9:27:32 AM PDT by jimbo123
Joran van der Sloot has been charged with murder in the slaying of 21-year-old Stephany Flores.
Peruvian judge Juan Buendia has ordered van der Sloot jailed on murder and robbery charges, and described van der Sloot as having acted with "ferocity and great cruelty."
Police say van der Sloot smashed in the face of Lima business student Stephany Flores, whom he met playing poker at a casino, after taking her to his hotel room on May 30. They say he then strangled her, threw her to the floor and emptied her wallet.
Buendia issued the order before dawn Friday, instructing penal authorities to place the Dutchman in a penitentiary pending trial.
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“or the other young women that are now thought to have possibly been murdered by him”
When this story first came out, and the 5 year “anniversary” date was given, I suggested that investigators should find out where Urine was every year on that date, and investigate any murders or disappearances. Do you have any other info/links about “other young women?”
I saw some mention in an article within the past few days that authorities in some South American country were looking into whether he might be responsible for the unsolved murders of two young women there. I don’t recall any more details.
In theory, yes.
In reality, Aruba and even Holland do not do enough business with Peru to warrant an extradition of someone who murdered any Peruvian citizen - let alone a popular Peruvian celebrity's daughter.
I'm sure Peru's answer will be that they will be happy to hand him over as soon as he's served his Peruvian time.
I'm guessing that Peruvian prosecutors will argue that both Aruba and the FBI had the opportunity to arrest him and convict him and they squandered their opportunities - and, as a result, he was walking around free to murder Miss Flores.
I'd add that a lot of posters here seem to think that he will suffer deeply in prison in Peru.
However, compared to most Peruvian inmates, he is fabulously wealthy. If his mother can get enough money into him to keep his fellow inmates supplied with contraband, etc. he will likely be able to buy protection. Also, at 6'3", he is young, strong and physically bigger than most Peruvians.
His time in prison will be brutal by our standards, but probably not what he deserves.
Too bad most of his country men arent joining him. Stories of “how she (halloway) deserved it being an American” abounded at the time.
I think it was Argentina.
In a discussion I heard from attorneys who seemed to know, it was stated that Joran had pled guilty to cut a deal for a shorter sentence. And, it was said that with good behavior, he could be out in eight years, around age 30.
All the others comments aside, that is pretty amazing if he could be out in eight years.
I'm no expert either, but from what I have read, there is no extradition treaty under which he could be sent back to Aruba. Supposedly the Dutch and Peru have one in the works but it has not yet been ratified.
The US and Peru have such a treaty, in theory he could be sent here to face the extortion charges, but I doubt it would happen anytime soon given the identity of the victim. Unless Peru decides it is just too much trouble to deal with him. I would imagine the US govt would love to get its hands on this slimebag.
From what I heard yesterday on Beck (or was it fox) the Peruvian jails are not too nice but the criminal sentences are ridiculously lenient.
For example if he is convicted of Murder-1, he is only looking at 25 years, but that would likely be reduced to 12 years by the court. 12 YEARS FOR A BRUTAL MURDER!!
Peru will make an example of him. He will will not receive any leniency. The judge has called out the “ferocity and cruelty” of van der Sloot’s actions.
Additionally, van der Sloot beat Stephany so badly that she was missing an eyeball when she was found and subsequently identified by her brother.
Even if he is sequestered the prisoners have every incentive to spend their time figuring out a way to “get to him”.
“He will probably be transferred back to Aruba”
NO WAY Peru will allow this. They will kill him before they let him out of the country!
I’m not an expert in Dutch or Peruvian law but was wondering if this scenario is possible:
There are several problems with that scenario ...
He confesses to the Natalee Halloway murder and proves it by giving up the location of the body which is found.
This is the first problem, giving the fact that Peruvian authorities have said that they are explicitly keeping away from any questioning having to do with anything other than the murder of Stephany Flores.
In other words, the Peruvian authorities want nothing to do with this matter. And they have said so (in so many words).
Can he then be extradited back to Aruba to be tried and serve sentence for the first murder he committed before having to return to Peru to serve sentence on the last murder committed?
Here is the second problem with that scenario. There is not even a charge for murder, much less any evidence for murder. All they have is a "connection" with Joran van der Sloot for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
The last thing that van der Sloot said (to the FBI, when they gave him money for it) -- is that Holloway died as a result of an accident when she fell and hit her head on a rock. Now, whether one believes this or not is not the point here. The point is that no one has established a murder. All that has been shown is that there is a connection between van der Sloot and Holloway.
You're "jumping ahead of the game" by saying "tried and serve sentence for the first murder he committed" ...
AND THEN... the other problem with that is that I'm sure the Peruvian authorities would want van der Sloot to serve his time in their country before they release him to authorities in some other country.
The answer may shed light on his tactics...
His "tactics" may have nothing more to do with anything -- other than -- getting some protection while in Peru, so that nothing happens to him and perhaps getting some better living conditions in prison -- so that he is "available" when the time comes that the U.S. authorities want him transferred to their custody.
Someone said this girls father can hire someone inside the prison to kill Van der Sloot for very little money.
That would not be a very good ending for Natalee Holloway's mother, who has been working with the FBI to try and find out where her daughter's body is and exactly what happened to her.
I think Holloway's mother would want the chance to find out the facts from van der Sloot and get this thing finally resolved with their family.
Van der Sloot will probably hire professional protection though. So there you are!
Actually the US authorities may be insisting to the Peruvian authorities that they better have Joran van der Sloot available for the US taking him into custody when he finishes his sentence in Peru. I would imagine that if the US authorities are saying anything about it -- this would be one thing they would insist on.
I bet a lot of people would do him for free.
I'm betting Natalee Holloway's mother wouldn't ... though ...
He will probably be transferred back to Aruba to stand trial for the murder of Natalie Holloway and the authorities there will conveniently turn their heads long enough for him to slip away and into obscurity. Then his mommy will keep him hidden and support him till she dies.
I doubt that, because the Peruvian authorities will want van der Sloot to finish his time with them. And when he is finished there... I'm sure they have already heard from the U.S. authorities that "they" are next in line for Joran van der Sloot...
I suspect that Aruba would come way down the line, after all the other authorities are finished with their courts and justice systems.
I haven’t heard it mentioned in the news cirsuit so was thinking I just didn’t know their laws well enough. Heads will explode if he pulls it off!
The Arubans don't have an extradition treaty with Peru... and besides that, the Arubans don't have any charges pending against Joran van der Sloot.
BUT, the US authorities do and they are more than anxious to have van der Sloot in their custody as soon as he has finished his time with the Peruvians ... :-)
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