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'Immigrants are making our country dumber': Anger as board member of Germany's central bank
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Posted on 06/11/2010 10:04:21 AM PDT by traumer

A controversial board member of Bundesbank has come under fire for claiming immigrants are making Germany ‘dumber in a simple way’.

Thilo Sarrazin told a business group in Frankfurt that people arriving in the country from Turkey, the Middle East and Africa are less educated than those from other nations.

The 65-year-old added: ‘There’s a difference in the reproduction of population groups with varying intelligence.’

In his speech this week, Mr Sarrazin, a former finance minister, cited what he called ‘ample statistics’ for proof.

He said the fact that immigrants tend to have more children than Germans - who have the lowest birthrate in Europe - meant this caused ‘a different propagation of population groups with different intelligence because parents pass their intelligence on to their children’.

Susanne Kreutzer, a spokesman for Bundesbank, said the comments are ‘the personal views of Mr. Sarrazin’ and declined to comment further.

But there is speculation now that his views may make his position on the bank‘s board untenable.

Mr Sarrazin, who joined the Bundesbank in May 2009 after seven years as Berlin’s finance minister, came under pressure to resign in October 2009 after he described Muslim children as ‘underclass’ citizens.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; aliens; dumber; immigrants; indians; itstrue; mexicans; middleeast; somlians; turkey; underclass

1 posted on 06/11/2010 10:04:21 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

no kidding....


2 posted on 06/11/2010 10:04:57 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

I thought that 20 kids and low IQ was the way to prosperity, Obama told me so.


3 posted on 06/11/2010 10:06:01 AM PDT by wac3rd (Gulf oil spews...Obama sues.)
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To: traumer

....immigrants are making Germany ‘dumber in a simple way’.

Liberal voting base......


4 posted on 06/11/2010 10:06:40 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: traumer

Tell us about it.


5 posted on 06/11/2010 10:07:53 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: traumer
I hear ya.


6 posted on 06/11/2010 10:08:25 AM PDT by GregoTX
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To: traumer

I remember one time years ago when we were picnicking in a secluded beach cove in SoCal. One of the picnickers was an anthropologist. When he noticed the arrival of another group of people on the other side of the picnic grounds, he noted, “Well, it looks like the average IQ level of this beach just dropped.” When the group got close enough to be identified as Asians, he corrected himself, “Actually the average IQ just went up!”


7 posted on 06/11/2010 10:10:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: traumer
Big deal....The government rolled out the red carpet for 25 million from Mexico, here in the U.S., Most of which can't even spell their own names...And many of those can't keep their fraudulent ID's straight...They don't even know who they are...

Of course, most of these ignorant law wage slaves think company benefits mean a 5 minute break....The greedy SOB employers that hire them love it.

8 posted on 06/11/2010 10:11:23 AM PDT by dragnet2
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Of course, most of these ignorant LOW wage slaves think company benefits mean a 5 minute break....The greedy SOB employers that hire them love it.


9 posted on 06/11/2010 10:12:07 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: traumer

Its your own policies that are dumbing down the country, Mr. Salazin.

You encourage the lowest members of foreign societies to come to your country when you offer them free housing, welfare, and health-care. You double the effect when you offer this to N. African and Mid-east citizens who have high illiteracy rates


10 posted on 06/11/2010 10:14:48 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: traumer

Seems to me the key question is whether anyone has put forth data contradicting his statements.


11 posted on 06/11/2010 10:15:20 AM PDT by freespirited (There are a lot of bad Republicans but there are no good Democrats.--Ann Coulter)
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To: traumer

Wouldn’t the correct phrase be, “more dumb”?


12 posted on 06/11/2010 10:25:57 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Only too true. Fact is that IQ has to be a result of family background. Genes have to dominate, as twins studies tell us, but “values” also play a big role.


13 posted on 06/11/2010 10:38:52 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: dragnet2

Teh country is broke and the illegal need to go home. American seniors and baby boomers are going to be so screwed because of illegals.


14 posted on 06/11/2010 10:40:56 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: traumer

The Germans have had a long love affair with islamic countries. The Germans actively promoted massive immigration to Germany for many Turks.They, the krauts, are merely reaping what they have sown. Germans and Islamic nations (i.e. Turkey)each respectively, share a shameful history of genocide.


15 posted on 06/11/2010 10:40:56 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (No such thing as "Peaceful Coexistence" with Islam)
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Whatever about Germany,immigrants, at least those from south of the border, are dumbing down America. Education in Mexico is free and theoretically mandatory through the sixth grade. Theoretically, because in rural areas there are no school buses to take kids to the nearest small town. Impoverished parents do not own cars, although some kids reach school on foot or bycycle. From 6th through ninth grades there are school fees and parents must pay for books, knocking out great swathes of the population. Senior high school, called “prepa” covers 10th through 12th grades and requires substantial fees. Also, these schools are found only in towns or cities. Since the kids who go to “prepa” are by definition well off, they do not walk across the border to immigrate. The vast majority of Mexican illegal immigrants have a sixth grade education or less. Not a few are barely literate in their own language, let alone English. The social consequences of this are devastating, not only for them but for children they raise in the USA. An appalling vista.
16 posted on 06/11/2010 10:44:55 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: tbw2

Reverse eugenics.


17 posted on 06/11/2010 10:50:19 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: traumer

He had the guts to say what we all know.


18 posted on 06/11/2010 12:14:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

You just cannot import third world poverty. Now a days, even the teachers are cheating on the their comp tests...


19 posted on 06/11/2010 12:23:27 PM PDT by gman992
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To: traumer
'Immigrants are making our country dumber': Anger as board member of Germany's central bank

When your nation embraces socialism, it's difficult to see how and where it could possibly get "dumber".

20 posted on 06/12/2010 6:05:14 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

Sarrazin means “Sarracen” in German.

That’s a name German knights returning from the Crusades would take/receive.

Maybe Mr Thilo is just keeping up a family tradition


21 posted on 06/16/2010 4:49:48 PM PDT by gaslucas1
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

22 posted on 06/17/2010 6:41:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: freespirited; traumer; All
I'm sure that Dr. Charles Murray, American co-author of The Bell Curve, would agree essentially with Herr Sarrazin's statement. Both are scientifically correct but politically incorrect.
23 posted on 06/17/2010 9:20:28 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: gitmogrunt

Unfortunately Germany killed off their immigrants that actually were creative, and contributed to the country.


24 posted on 06/17/2010 9:23:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RobbyS; ExTexasRedhead; All
Fact is that IQ has to be a result of family background.

Studies have shown consistently that IQ test scores are about 70% genetically determined and 30% environmentally determined. The best book I've seen on IQ and what it means is Murray and Herrnstein's The Bell Curve, which cased quite a stir when it came out over a decade ago.

25 posted on 06/17/2010 9:27:16 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: dfwgator
Unfortunately Germany killed off their immigrants that actually were creative, and contributed to the country.

If you are referring to those German Jews killed in the Holocaust, the vast majority of them were not immigrants, but had lived in (what became) Germany for generations.

26 posted on 06/17/2010 9:32:21 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

True, but had Germany not killed off the Jews of Europe, I’m convinced Europe would not have imported so many Muslims to take their place after the war.


27 posted on 06/17/2010 9:33:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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