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Migrants 'make Germany dumb' says central banker in astonishing outburst
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | June 12, 2010 | Alan Hall

Posted on 06/12/2010 10:10:29 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Immigrants are making Germany 'dumber', according to a board member of the country's central bank.

Thilo Sarrazin claimed the 'limited education' of immigrants - coupled with their high birth rate - meant Germans 'are becoming dumber in a simple way'.

He said: 'There's a difference in the reproduction of population groups with varying intelligence.'

It is not the first time the 65-year-old member of the Bundesbank has caused controversy since he joined last year.

In October he described Muslim children as 'underclass' citizens.

'I don't have to accept someone who lives off a state they reject, doesn't properly take care of the education of his children-and keeps producing more little girls in headscarves,' Mr Sarrazin said.

'That goes for 70 percent of the Turkish and 90 percent of the Arabic population of Berlin.' He added that they were not fit for much other than 'fruit and vegetable selling'.

In his latest speech this week he said there were 'ample statistics' proving he was correct about German intelligence.

He went on to say that in particular immigrants from 'Turkey, the Middle East and Africa' were less educated.

Because immigrants tend to have more children than Germans - who have the lowest birth rate in Europe - this caused 'a different propagation of population groups with different intelligence because parents pass their intelligence on to their children'.

Mr Sarrazin, who was previously Germany's finance minister, has not yet apologised. It is thought his position at the Bundesbank may now be untenable.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; bordeslanguage; culture; immigration; iq; thilosarrazin; turks
U.S. version of this story: California Now the Least-Educated State (because of immigration) .
1 posted on 06/12/2010 10:10:29 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
astonishing outburst

Perhaps but no less true!

2 posted on 06/12/2010 10:13:13 AM PDT by marlon
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To: marlon

I think the proper word in German is “Untermensch”.


3 posted on 06/12/2010 10:15:35 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: marlon

oh, no kidding!
(this guy reminds me of my Dad!)


4 posted on 06/12/2010 10:15:55 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: reaganaut1
I think I like this guy.
5 posted on 06/12/2010 10:17:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: reaganaut1

Well, DUH!

The US benefited from European immigration. Europe was the birthplace of the Reformation, the Renaissance, and Enlightenment.

However, Europe is suffering decay from Mohamhead(tm) immigration.

Mohamhead immigration is bringing Europe the Deformation, and the Resurgance of the Dark Ages.

And the US is suffering the same from 3rd world immigration of Mexican illiterates and Mohamheads.

They WILL vote DemoncRAT, though, so that’s why the DemoncRATs want them.


6 posted on 06/12/2010 10:19:28 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: reaganaut1
Perhaps this is really how civilizations have always risen and fallen!
7 posted on 06/12/2010 10:19:35 AM PDT by Dem Guard ("Throw the trash out on November 2nd!")
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To: reaganaut1

Can’t argue with him.


8 posted on 06/12/2010 10:19:41 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: reaganaut1

A study of California (now 27% immigrant, largely uneducated from Mexico) says much the same thing.


9 posted on 06/12/2010 10:20:01 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: glorgau
No, the German word is Dummkopf. The first generation tends to act like Gaestarbiters. Th second and third like visiting relatives.
10 posted on 06/12/2010 10:20:05 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: reaganaut1
Mr Sarrazin, who was previously Germany's finance minister, has not yet apologised.

Nor should he.

11 posted on 06/12/2010 10:20:08 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: reaganaut1

Truth hurts!

My sister lived in Amsterdam until the mid 80s and a friend told her of a Muslim man who didn’t want his wife’s pants taken off so she could give birth. Finally he relented after the Dr explained over and over that his wife and child could die.

A German friend told of Russians who marched into Germany during WWII who thought toilets were for washing potatoes and faucets should spout water even though they had been pulled off the wall and relocated to where there were no pipes to hook up to.

However, the Russians, unhampered by a completely backward religion, have progressed while the Muslims cling to centuries long past.


12 posted on 06/12/2010 10:21:29 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: reaganaut1

Well, that’s what they get for killing the Jewish people.

Hmmm, let’s see, which would I want:

Jewish people: generally smart, law-abiding, productive, peaceful

Arabs: stupid, violent, law-breaking free loaders.

Chickens came home to roost, I say.


13 posted on 06/12/2010 10:21:35 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: reaganaut1

There’s a lot of that going around Thilo. Communism does not work with an educated populace. The dumber they are, the better. Look at ACORN for example.


14 posted on 06/12/2010 10:25:44 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Bush made me do it!" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: reaganaut1

Despite Liberal utopian policies, with trillions spent on diversity programs, education, food, housing, Affirmative Action, lowering entrance requirments, lowering credit standards and slamming political correctness into Western Nations, it fails, every single place it is tried, without exception.

Like Communism, the structure will eventually collapse onto itself as incentive for hard work is not rewarded and everyone becomes a ward of the state.


15 posted on 06/12/2010 10:27:31 AM PDT by wac3rd (Gulf oil spews...Obama sues.)
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To: reaganaut1

Astonishing for its truth.


16 posted on 06/12/2010 10:28:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: the Real fifi

I read some interesting census facts for 2010.Hispanic birth
to death ratio is 9 to 1.The white population rate is 1 to 1.


17 posted on 06/12/2010 10:29:08 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: reaganaut1
From the Daily Mail article: A spokesman for a Muslim group in Berlin said: 'He is a tired old white Christian male full of prejudice and few ideas.'

Translation: 'Guys like him are dying off and we Muslims are quickly replacing them. We'll control Germany in a few more decades and we'll do for Germany what we've done for our native countries as we devolve it into a backward, repressive hellhole. Nobody cares if some old Kraut complains'.

Europe is obviously quite willing to go gently into that good Muslim-centric night.

18 posted on 06/12/2010 10:32:17 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: reaganaut1

THE BELL CURVE comes to mind.


19 posted on 06/12/2010 10:35:58 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Women are natural socialists, since the 19th passed the US has been drifting Liberal)
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To: reaganaut1

An old alcoholic friend of mine use to say, “Charlie, the truth ain’t always nice, but it’s always the truth.” Amen.


20 posted on 06/12/2010 10:36:00 AM PDT by animal172 (I would have been here sooner, but I just got here.)
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To: reaganaut1
You mean diversity = strength is a lie?

I'm astonished.

21 posted on 06/12/2010 10:41:14 AM PDT by blam
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To: reaganaut1

>>Immigrants are making Germany ‘dumber’, according to a board member of the country’s central bank.<<

.
Rather late of him to reach this conclusion. But perhaps America can learn from this statement.. er ... never mind.


22 posted on 06/12/2010 10:45:20 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM -- America's road to destruction.)
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To: reaganaut1

Check this out:

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/02/single-muslim-mother-of-six-finds-2m-mansion-on-the-net-and-then-gets-you-to-pay-7000-a-month-rent/

Muslim woman with 8 kids living in Government supplied $4.2 million London Council House

near Paul McCartney,

costing $11,000 a month paid for by the Socialist Welfare State.....................

says “Life in Britain is great” !!!

Ya think???

And then she gets an additional $16,000 in cash each year more, in “benefits”!!!

Wow.

and again, “Why work when I can get $64,000 in benefits a year AND drive a Mercedes, a van, and have a 42 inch TV?”

The Davey family’s $1,250 -a-week state handouts pay for a four-bedroom home, top-of-the-range mod cons and two vehicles including a Mercedes people carrier.!!!
Father-of-seven Peter gave up work because he could make more living on benefits.!
Yet he and his wife Claire are still not happy with their lot.
With an eighth child on the way, they are demanding a bigger house, courtesy of the taxpayer.

Yes, demanding! Isn’t life great in Great Britain???

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265508/Peter-Davey-gets-42-000-benefits-year-drives-Mercedes.html#ixzz0kycmrrrx

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265508/Peter-Davey-gets-42-000-benefits-year-drives-Mercedes.html#ixzz0kyc8g4vp:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265508/Peter-Davey-gets-42-000-benefits-year-drives-Mercedes.html


Also:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:A0N2vsOLZ-sJ:www.judicialwatch.org/comment/reply/5650+Ventanillas+de+Salud,+Health+Windows&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Struggling County Spends Millions On Illegal Aliens’ Dialysis

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2009/aug/struggling-county-spends-millions-illegal-aliens-dialysis


23 posted on 06/12/2010 10:46:20 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: marlon

Just like America, Germany pays the lowest strata of foreign societies to come and leech off the taxpayer.

No surprise then he thinks they are dumbing down the country, which they ARE.


24 posted on 06/12/2010 10:46:57 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: reaganaut1

Here they are !!! Take a look !!!

More information on the wonderful illegals now inside our country thanks to the Demoncrats ...

Take a look at this FBI Wanted for Murder List to see how wonderful diversity is !!!

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/vc/murders/vc_murders.htm

About 90% Hispanic, for those who don’t wish to count (or see all their ugly mugs)


25 posted on 06/12/2010 10:47:09 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Westbrook

“...so that’s why the DemoncRATs want them.”

.
Asses. Don’t they understand that, in the long run, they too will be targeted for conversion?


26 posted on 06/12/2010 10:48:10 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM -- America's road to destruction.)
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To: reaganaut1

a Pakistani man arrested for the Time Square bombing admitted on a city license application that he entered the U.S. illegally and authorities took no action. He had enough cash to buy $190,000 worth of shares in Boston taxi medallions, according to one news report, that points out no red flags were raised.

Taxis?

NYC?

Berlin?

Really really unpleasant experience ???


27 posted on 06/12/2010 10:48:40 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Germany 1920-2020. Get rid of the Jews and replace them with Moslems. One of the all-time blunders of history.

Is the Moslem takeover of Europe just the final consequence of "Those who bless you, I will bless. Those who curse you, I will curse"?

28 posted on 06/12/2010 10:51:07 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: reaganaut1
'I don't have to accept someone who lives off a state they reject, doesn't properly take care of the education of his children-and keeps producing more little girls in headscarves,' Mr Sarrazin said. 'That goes for 70 percent of the Turkish and 90 percent of the Arabic population of Berlin.' He added that they were not fit for much other than 'fruit and vegetable selling'.

Yup. We could have used this guy during the bailout debate. Put him in charge of a bank here ASAP!

29 posted on 06/12/2010 10:54:18 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“Hmmm, let’s see, which would I want:
Jewish people: generally smart, law-abiding, productive, peaceful
Arabs: stupid, violent, law-breaking free loaders.”

The Germans envied the Jews, and now they get to look down on the Muslims. Psychologically they are better off.


30 posted on 06/12/2010 11:01:39 AM PDT by devere
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To: Aria
My sister lived in Amsterdam until the mid 80s and a friend told her of a Muslim man who didn’t want his wife’s pants taken off so she could give birth.

Sheesh, how do they do it back home? The kid has to work his own way out the leg hole, similar to a kangaroo birth?

31 posted on 06/12/2010 11:02:32 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: devere

You know, I think this just about sums it up — very astutely —

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“Hmmm, let’s see, which would I want:
Jewish people: generally smart, law-abiding, productive, peaceful
Arabs: stupid, violent, law-breaking free loaders.”

The Germans envied the Jews, and now they get to look down on the Muslims. Psychologically they are better off.


32 posted on 06/12/2010 11:29:37 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: animal172
Hermotimus, I cannot show what truth is, so well as wise people like you and your professor; but one thing I do know about it, and that is that it is not pleasant to the ear; falsehood is far more esteemed; it is prettier, and therefore pleasanter; while Truth, conscious of its purity, blurts out downright remarks, and offends people.

Lucian of Samosata

33 posted on 06/12/2010 11:41:59 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: RobbyS

Very funny ;-)


34 posted on 06/12/2010 11:43:37 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Dr. Ursus
I read some interesting census facts for 2010.Hispanic birth to death ratio is 9 to 1.The white population rate is 1 to 1.

That difference sounds a bit exaggerated, but it is in the right direction. Amazingly, I read an economic piece the other day which said that the US was in the best shape of the Western economies because, among other things, it had positive population growth. If the growth is in the unassimilated underclass, it isn't a good thing.

35 posted on 06/12/2010 12:33:21 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: reaganaut1

What does one expect? They come from countries with very little tradition in education. For example when the Europeans colonized North Africa only 10% of the Muslim men could read and write and 0% of the women! Now it’s something like 60%/40%.


36 posted on 06/12/2010 12:34:42 PM PDT by paristwelve (Feeling sorry for things is just an excuse for not celebrating your own happiness.)
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To: reaganaut1

And Americans are being dumbed down by teachers and college professors.


37 posted on 06/12/2010 2:46:56 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The one thing we sort of have going for us is that our unassimilated underclass is much more assimilable than Europe’s. Of course, if we controlled our borders, we could limit entry to only educated above average immigrants and still fill all quotas. We are such idiots, as a country, on this.


38 posted on 06/29/2010 7:52:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ

By Sebastián Vivar Rodríguez

I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz.

We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for hoping for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.


39 posted on 06/29/2010 7:57:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: paristwelve

Where do you get your figures? From frequent recent trips to N Africa, the illiteracy rate is more like 45% I am told. I will say one thing...if you meet an educated N African, you will be astonished that they don’t fit the stereotypical picture that is painted here. There are people who have moved into modern society and their formal education system is extremely difficult - FAR FAR FAR better than in the USA. Look, I’m not crazy for the freeloaders and what’s happened in Europe is a shame - I saw with my own eyes it’s gone. But you will find many many young men in Morocco, for example, with graduate degrees, Ph.D.s who are brillant and they WANT to integrate into western society, peacefully.


40 posted on 06/29/2010 8:18:33 PM PDT by Nodems2000
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