Skip to comments.Boom's a Bust as Oil Spill Seeps into Perdido Pass
Posted on 06/12/2010 7:53:15 PM PDT by Qbert
ORANGE BEACH, Ala. -- Extensive measures aimed at keeping the Gulf spill from penetrating Perdido Pass failed their first test early Wednesday as globs of hazardous oil rode a rising morning tide through the inlet and settled on beaches, bulkheads and grass beds in the city's inland water bodies.
"I'm mad," Orange Beach Mayor Tony Kennon told about 500 of his constituents during a midday public forum. "I'm absolutely sick to my stomach."
As slicks approached the pass overnight, city officials said they asked that heavy-duty boom strung across much of the pass be used to close off the inlet completely but were rebuffed by the U.S. Coast Guard. By midday the tide had reversed and oil-splotched water coursed back out of the basin toward the open Gulf and awaiting skimmer boats.
But the damage had been done.
Thick, sticky oil coated the brick-covered southern edge of Boggy Point, a stubby peninsula at the confluence of Cotton Bayou, Old River and Terry Cove that hosts a public boat launch. Neon boom that wrapped the basin's islands and sensitive submerged grass beds was stained the color of chocolate.
"There goes my flounder fishing," said Bob Wilson Jr., who lives in the Bear Point neighborhood adjacent to the private waterfront. Wilson said he first spotted the oil at about 10:30 a.m., and though he called the sighting into the Unified Command in Mobile, no one had been by for so much as a look four hours later.
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Coast Guard stops guarding coast? Unbelievable.
Not to make excuses for Obama, but what is he supposed to do? There is no solution to this. It won’t be solved until they get those relief wells finished, which will be a couple more months.
There goes everything, Bob, including Flounder fishing, not to mention your property value.
The exact opposite of everything he has done.
he was supposed to accept the help from the international community (could waive Jones Act) and the different people who have tried to bring experts in.
he has dragged his feet in order to shut down Houston oil (not in his pocket) and to punish England.
IMO he is not only a narcissist but also a psychopath who will destroy everyone and everything which doesn’t bow down to him. His dark side is showing more and more everyday.
If the Obama administration is keeping reporters out of the main spill area, what we see now coming ashore must be just the tip of the iceberg.
the first thing he should have done is get more involved in a leadership position from day 1. He can look to Giuliani in NYC or Bush nationally on the day of 9/11. This was a situation that needed a leader and he missed the opportunity.
Second, he took on the position after the fact as ‘the man’ in charge, and stated he had been since day 1. In that instance he now owns the failure. There are things that could have been done earlier both to help stop the leak and also to prepare for the cleanup and prevent damage. He and fedgov have been slow to non-existent, outside of the Coast Guard doing their duty.
SUSPEND JONES ACT ... MM MM MMM
>> Not to make excuses for Obama, but what is he supposed to do? There is no solution to this.
Is or was?
As far as I’m concerned, ideas and solutions were neglected.
Really? So if he had done the exact opposite of what he has done, the leak would be fixed and there would be no oil headed towards the beaches?
Here’s how you can gauge the seriousness of those who are blaming Obama: Do they have a solution to offer? If not, then they’re just making political hay.
“Not to make excuses for Obama, but what is he supposed to do? There is no solution to this. It wont be solved until they get those relief wells finished, which will be a couple more months.”
My understanding is that there have been a number of suggestions based upon methods that were successful in largely cleaning up other massive oil spills, and the administration for whatever reason has not implemented these. (There are two separate pieces to this- the leak itself and the continuing spread of the oil.)
I think you’re right. It’s just a disaster. I feel so bad for all those people on the gulf, including “Bob and his flounder fishing”.
This catastrophe is nothing but a mere inconvenience for dingle Barry, the Kenyan Asshat Usurper.
As for the leak, hurry up the secondary recovery vessel. Hurry up the wells to plug the leaking well.
The column is cracked all the way down and seeps are flowing up at an ever increasing rate in a 20 mile radius.
Pressures up to 70,000 psi could be involved.
In the beginning he should have met ASAP with the heads of BP and the governors of the states that would likely be affected. Those meetings would have given him some ideas of things he could do to help and he would have had input he needed to formulate a plan to at least mitigate damages to the coast. He should NOT have put all the oil rig workers in the gulf out of work, there had to a better way to handle that.
At the very least had he met with the people dealing with the issues it would have looked like he cared and was trying to do something. He is supposed to be the leader of this country- it would be nice if he could show some leadership. He looks like a total incompetent playing golf, partying, and making smart alec remarks while this disaster is going on.
He needs to go to the UN and ask for every nation’s help to deal with this. It might be the FIRST time the UN ever accomplished anything good. Of course, he won’t do that, he’s the ultimate ......... (would get me banned.)
Bring the Norwegians in. They were called by the Russians to try to save the Kursk crew. They know the sea. No diver’s going down to 5,000 feet. If somebody can fix it, let em fix it.
I have a feeling that Gulf oil, which is a heavy crude that’s full of waxy/tarry fractions that are heavier than water, wouldn’t be skimmable the way “light, sweet” Saudi crude is. This stuff is floating in as massive underwater clouds. I don’t even know if the booms can do much of anything.
The Federal government is exercising crisis manipulation. To bad the state of Alabama don't have the resources to set up their own boom and tell the Federals to take a hike.
Anything would have beat nothing but blaming others...which is what he has done...as usual.
Actually, this is 40 deg API LLS crude, which is lighter than Saudi Light and lower in sulfur.
excellent reminder!! thank you!
Is the oil coming out at a temperature of 40 Degrees Fahrenheit ?
Oh, so the proverbial, " we can't use the tanker method because the crude is so much *heavier* than the Saudi crude" excuse is basically, - bogus...?
Well, well, well...
“I have a feeling that Gulf oil, which is a heavy crude thats full of waxy/tarry fractions that are heavier than water, wouldnt be skimmable the way light, sweet Saudi crude is. This stuff is floating in as massive underwater clouds. I dont even know if the booms can do much of anything.”
First, we can’t know whether the booms would’ve been more of success if they were implemented much earlier, and we used the full amount available, because that option wasn’t chosen. Second, I would think that an honest attempt at skimming using previous methods, even if it was unsuccessful would be better than simply assuming that it will not work. Even failures can reveal possible solutions.
And at any rate, there is a new skimming technique- finally- being utilized by the Coast Guard which may have some success:
It's probably much, much warmer -- since it's coming from 17,000 ft under the sea floor.
It would only be warmer then the deep sea ocean temp (near freezing) if the oil was located closer to a significant section of magma. If the oil is located close to significant magma, why would anyone suggest using a nuke down there ?
“Actually, this is 40 deg API LLS crude, which is lighter than Saudi Light and lower in sulfur.
Oh, so the proverbial, “ we can’t use the tanker method because the crude is so much *heavier* than the Saudi crude” excuse is basically, - bogus...?
Well, well, well...”
If that’s the case, then what in the Sam Hell are these buffoons doing?
You know Barry: - it's time to the throw the entire Gulf coast under the bus.
Really? That's news to me.
If I'm not mistaken, deep wells (and 17,000 thru the crust is deep) have to use specially treated pipe in the drill stem because of the high heat that is encountered.
E.g., see this on the Homestake Mine.
The temperature of the rock at the bottom of the mine (8,000 ft) is 135 degrees F.
Is 40 deg API LLS crude the lighter crude known as “Louisiana sweet crude”?
If so, what’s coming out of this well is different stuff. It seems to be heavier “asphaltene crude”.
Big Government has been making this worse from Day One.
It’s just like Obama takin us all on the “Road To Perdition!” (same base word meaning... DEAD END)
40 degrees refers to the “specific gravity” of the oil, which is a measure of its density. There’s a good chart here if you scroll down some:
It looks like the oil coming out of this well might be heavier than 40 degrees though.
The U.S. National Bureau of Standards established the Baumé scale (degrees Baumé) as the standard for measuring specific gravity, or density of liquids less dense than water. API gravity, is a measure of how heavy or light a petroleum liquid is compared to water.
Not density. Weight as compared to the heavier weight of water. Density is varied by temperature. Weight is not. We still do not know the temperature of the oil. If it is very low, then its weight would be a more accurate metric. Not its volume at an undefined temperature.
“It looks like the oil coming out of this well might be heavier than 40 degrees though.”
Where is your support for this, other than what it “looks like”?
The oil’s temperature will be the same as the surrounding water. If you know the temperature of the ocean water, you know the temperature of the oil.
The oil’s weight will not vary with temperature.
Its density relative to water is the best measure of whether it will sink or float. Assuming the oil and water are at the same temperature, which they are, then the relative gravity will tell you that.