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Another Stumble in the Gulf (Obama lies)
Powerline Blog ^ | June 11, 2010 | John

Posted on 06/13/2010 1:04:09 AM PDT by XHogPilot

The administration has decreed a six-month moratorium on exploratory drilling in the Gulf, based on a report that Interior Secretary Ken Salazar wrote for President Obama. Salazar claimed that a panel of seven experts selected by the National Academy of Engineering had peer reviewed his report. It turns out, though, that the seven experts never saw the recommendation for a moratorium, and in fact oppose it:

The seven experts who advised President Obama on how to deal with offshore drilling safety after the Deepwater Horizon explosion are accusing his administration of misrepresenting their views to make it appear that they supported a six-month drilling moratorium -- something they actually oppose.

The experts, recommended by the National Academy of Engineering, say Interior Secretary Ken Salazar modified their report last month, after they signed it, to include two paragraphs calling for the moratorium on existing drilling and new permits.

Salazar's report to Obama said a panel of seven experts "peer reviewed" his recommendations, which included a six-month moratorium on permits for new wells being drilled using floating rigs and an immediate halt to drilling operations.

"None of us actually reviewed the memorandum as it is in the report," oil expert Ken Arnold told Fox News. "What was in the report at the time it was reviewed was quite a bit different in its impact to what there is now. So we wanted to distance ourselves from that recommendation."

Salazar apologized to those experts Thursday.

Carol Browner tried to claim that the administration did nothing wrong, but it is hard to follow her logic:

"No one's been deceived or misrepresented," Browner told Fox News, defending the moratorium as a safety measure. "These experts gave their expert advice, and then a determination was made looking at all of the information, including what these experts provided -- that there should be a pause, and that's exactly what there is. There's a pause."

That, of course, is very different from attributing the recommendation of a moratorium to the experts, or claiming that they had "peer reviewed" it. In fact, the expert panel made cogent arguments against the administration's moratorium:

In a letter the experts sent to Salazar, they said his primary recommendation "misrepresents" their position and that halting the drilling is actually a bad idea.

The oil rig explosion occurred while the well was being shut down - a move that is much more dangerous than continuing ongoing drilling, they said.

They also said that because the floating rigs are scarce and in high demand worldwide, they will not simply sit in the Gulf idle for six months. The rigs will go to the North Sea and West Africa, possibly preventing the U.S. from being able to resume drilling for years.

They also said the best and most advanced rigs will be the first to go, leaving the U.S. with the older and potentially less safe rights operating in the nation's coastal waters.

So this looks like one more instance where the Obama administration is neither honest nor competent, and where its first instinct seems to be to pursue the course that will most damage our economy.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carolbrowner; gulfspill; impeachthekenyan; kensalazar; noaccountability; nobc; nobirthcertificate; nodocumentation; nohonesty; nojustice; notruth; oilspill; onlyfailure; onlyhateamerica; onlylies; onlyobstruction
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Obama administration caught in a another blatant lie. Lots of "Manchurian Candidate" remarks following this posting at the source site.
1 posted on 06/13/2010 1:04:10 AM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: XHogPilot

This really is shocking. Inserting items after they’ve signed off!


2 posted on 06/13/2010 1:06:00 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: americanophile

Get ready for step 3:

1. Communists lie to gain power.

2. Communists enslave to spread power.

3. Communists commit mass murder to keep power.


3 posted on 06/13/2010 1:09:50 AM PDT by XHogPilot (A thief might rob you, but politicians can rob your family for countless generations.)
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To: XHogPilot

WTF?!! This is costing people THEIR LIVELIHOODS!


4 posted on 06/13/2010 1:16:27 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: XHogPilot

Lets hope the moratorium doesnt go through because it will be a disaster for the oil industry in the gulf.

100,000 people alone in Louisiana will lose their jobs. The big rigs are going to leave the gulf and when that idiot in the white house is done increasing their taxes they will probably never return and the GOM will truly be the dead sea.

That boob has got to go.


5 posted on 06/13/2010 1:18:12 AM PDT by oilfieldtrash
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To: XHogPilot
Now I know why he doesn't give many press conferences.

He has no idea who's being addressed when the reporters start shouting "Mr. President?"

(Now if they said "Guy who doesn't know what he's doing?'...)

6 posted on 06/13/2010 1:19:37 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
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To: XHogPilot

Mrkd


7 posted on 06/13/2010 1:27:00 AM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: XHogPilot

This is like shutting down all the airports because of one terrible plane crash. The decision makes no sense and flies contrary to expert advice - it seems his ideologic agenda is more important to him than the lives affected by the Gulf and the economy.


8 posted on 06/13/2010 1:41:12 AM PDT by drierice
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To: XHogPilot

for reference


9 posted on 06/13/2010 2:38:05 AM PDT by EverOnward
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To: XHogPilot

They also said that because the floating rigs are scarce and in high demand worldwide, they will not simply sit in the Gulf idle for six months. The rigs will go to the North Sea and West Africa, possibly preventing the U.S. from being able to resume drilling for years.

obama likes the idea of this. It will expediate his mission.


10 posted on 06/13/2010 2:58:27 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: XHogPilot
So this looks like one more instance where the Obama administration is neither honest nor competent, and where its first instinct seems to be to pursue the course that will most damage our economy.

As another string (related to this subject) puts it "If ignorance is bliss, then this is one very happy WH"

11 posted on 06/13/2010 3:15:46 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: americanophile

“This really is shocking. Inserting items after they’ve signed off!”

What else did you expect from this administration? Are you really surprised?

Did they think we wouldn’t notice this blatant, and clumsy deception?

Or do they just not care, knowing that by the time November rolls around, the elections will be moot?


12 posted on 06/13/2010 3:18:15 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: XHogPilot
So this looks like one more instance where the Obama administration is neither honest nor competent, and where its first instinct seems to be to pursue the course that will most damage our economy.

Their destructive agenda is clear, and the intellectual dishonesty (COVERED UP ALL ALONG BY THE Lamestream media) is repulsive and loathsome. That Second Amendment thingy is going to become quite necessary in the not too distant future.
13 posted on 06/13/2010 3:22:35 AM PDT by Canedawg (The West is the best.)
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To: XHogPilot

Salazar has apparently taken pointers from the IPCC.

Get together a big list of “experts” and then put your own conlusion at the top of the “report.”


14 posted on 06/13/2010 3:28:18 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: XHogPilot; Irisshlass; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

15 posted on 06/13/2010 3:36:18 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: XHogPilot

This is one article you will never see on CNN, or MSNBC.

Isnt the drilling taking place more than 12 miles out in the Gulf? Isnt that in International waters where Obama cannot put a moratorium anyway?


16 posted on 06/13/2010 4:25:04 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: americanophile
This really is shocking.

I can't quite believe it, it's so bad. It ought to be the biggest news story current. Ought to be bigger than Watergate, it's certainly more damaging. An attempt at permanent crippling of our oil industry, falsely based on the advice of experts? Where is the outrage?

17 posted on 06/13/2010 4:35:29 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: XHogPilot
The experts, recommended by the National Academy of Engineering, say Interior Secretary Ken Salazar modified their report last month, after they signed it, to include two paragraphs calling for the moratorium on existing drilling and new permits.

The only word for what Salazar has done is FRAUD. If anyone in private enterprise had done this, he would be going to prison.
18 posted on 06/13/2010 4:42:51 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Venturer

The U.S. is not going to allow someone to be in international waters near territorial waters unless they have our permission or are our citizens. The whole national security thing comes into play.


19 posted on 06/13/2010 4:48:46 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: XHogPilot; All

Indeed, there are lies, damned lies, and Obama administration statements:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2532196/posts


20 posted on 06/13/2010 4:49:20 AM PDT by raptor22 (The truth will set us free)
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To: XHogPilot

Salazar crossed the line and his life should no longer be allowed

New rules mean there can be new rules


21 posted on 06/13/2010 4:49:26 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: XHogPilot

Democrats LEI, CHEAT and STEAL!! It’s what makes them DEMOCRATS!!


22 posted on 06/13/2010 4:57:59 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion...the Human Scarifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: XHogPilot
How can you tell Zero is lying? He's breathing!

With each and every breath he takes he continuously lies.

23 posted on 06/13/2010 5:06:02 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Thanks Zero! I actually miss the Clintoons being in the White House!)
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To: aruanan
The only word for what Salazar has done is FRAUD.

Let's add a 2nd word to the mix.

FORGERY: The making, drawing, or altering a document with the intent to defraud.

24 posted on 06/13/2010 5:15:39 AM PDT by mellow velo (Elect an adult; vote Conservative.)
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To: mellow velo
FORGERY: The making, drawing, or altering a document with the intent to defraud.

Exactly right. I skipped too quickly to the fraud result from the forgery. Sounds like this guy must have been learning at the feet of the IPCC folks who wrote the executive summaries.
25 posted on 06/13/2010 6:04:28 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: XHogPilot
Hey anderson cooper..... how about really keepin' 'em honest.
26 posted on 06/13/2010 6:08:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: XHogPilot
NSPE Code of Ethics for Engineers

Engineers, in the fulfillment of their professional duties, shall:

  1. Hold paramount the safety, health, and welfare of the public.
  2. Perform services only in areas of their competence.
  3. Issue public statements only in an objective and truthful manner.
  4. Act for each employer or client as faithful agents or trustees.
  5. Avoid deceptive acts.
  6. Conduct themselves honorably, responsibly, ethically, and lawfully so as to enhance the honor, reputation, and usefulness of the profession.

27 posted on 06/13/2010 6:12:16 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: XHogPilot

Presbo is holdling the course! Control, impede, and then nationalize.


28 posted on 06/13/2010 6:14:51 AM PDT by kingcoal
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To: mellow velo

bump


29 posted on 06/13/2010 6:17:13 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: Hoodat
NSPE Code of Ethics for Engineers

Yeah, but Salazar is not an engineer so these ethics are not for him.

30 posted on 06/13/2010 6:20:51 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: XHogPilot

I think we are seeing step 2 at the moment. But it definitely explains why they want our guns. You cannot have step three until the 2nd Amendment is repealed.


31 posted on 06/13/2010 6:34:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (You know it's bad when "Miss me yet" billboards with Carter's picture are displayed,)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

“The U.S. is not going to allow someone to be in international waters near territorial waters unless they have our permission or are our citizens. The whole national security thing comes into play.”

But our administration supports terrorists sailing into Israeli ports.

Go figure.


32 posted on 06/13/2010 6:36:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (You know it's bad when "Miss me yet" billboards with Carter's picture are displayed,)
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To: Venturer

200 nautical miles.


33 posted on 06/13/2010 6:39:20 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: XHogPilot
Obama administration caught in a another blatant lie.

Yet the state run media will never report this. If they ever do, this boob is toast.

34 posted on 06/13/2010 6:47:16 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Venturer

A long read but it lists many circumstances in which a government can claim control over vessels in international waters.

Basically, if I read it correctly, if such vessel or property is owned by or operated by US citizens or in any other way has a claim to US ownership, it is ruled by US law.

I am not going to dig for the law on leases, but I would suspect there are also clauses in those contracts.

How one leases something in international waters, I have no idea but I suspect that is interesting.


35 posted on 06/13/2010 6:55:15 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

Sorry, but I forgot to include the link:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2250/in-international-waters-are-you-beyond-the-reach-of-the-law


36 posted on 06/13/2010 6:57:13 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: XHogPilot

Caught in ANOTHER bald-faced lie!


37 posted on 06/13/2010 6:57:58 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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No surprise here.

Nobody in this Administration tells the truth about ANYTHING!

38 posted on 06/13/2010 7:03:34 AM PDT by Gritty (There's no other way to say it... (Obama is) an enemy within - Matt Barber)
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To: XHogPilot

The more I see from 0zeromumbojumbo and his leftist minions the more disgusted I become...


39 posted on 06/13/2010 7:35:00 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar... claimed that a panel of seven experts selected by the National Academy of Engineering had peer reviewed his report. It turns out, though, that the seven experts never saw the recommendation for a moratorium, and in fact oppose it

40 posted on 06/13/2010 8:09:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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“...possibly preventing the U.S. from being able to resume drilling for years.”

That’s the reason for the skullduggery right there.


41 posted on 06/13/2010 8:44:04 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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The administration has decreed a six-month moratorium on exploratory drilling in the Gulf

Let's see...a 6-month moratorium starting in May and ending late November 2010...There's probably nothing politically related to infer there, is there? Nah, just move along...nothing to see here....

42 posted on 06/13/2010 8:44:07 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (In just His first 3 days, the War on Terror became the War on Free Speech.)
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43 posted on 06/13/2010 8:46:23 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: drierice
Great analogy.
44 posted on 06/13/2010 8:48:34 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: XHogPilot

Apparently Zer0 had his Czars in charge of the Gulf.


45 posted on 06/13/2010 9:30:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: aruanan

Salazar shouldn’t even be Interior Secretary. They break and bend the rules whenever they feel like it. His appointment required a Saxbe fix by Congress. On January 7, 2009, Congress approved a bill, S.J.Res. 3 and Bush signed it into law The fix was in by reducing the Secretary of Interior’s salary to the level it was prior to the time Salazar took office in January 2009.


46 posted on 06/13/2010 10:46:11 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I think we are seeing step 2 at the moment. But it definitely explains why they want our guns. You cannot have step three until the 2nd Amendment is repealed

I fear that the air quality is very poor in that area due to all the toxic chemicals that they used and all that natural gas that is flowing at a rate of 5 times more than the oil.
Will bo use that as an excuse to evacuate the gulf coast? Step 3?
47 posted on 06/13/2010 10:46:31 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: XHogPilot

Incompetence and deception at its’ finest. I can’t wait ‘till we’re rid of these clowns - if we can survive that long.


48 posted on 06/13/2010 1:18:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: mojitojoe

He shouldn’t be for a more profound reason: This office requires a “Storming’ Norman” type, someone who has the ability to be in full command of this government side of this operation. But he is no more than a political hack.


49 posted on 06/13/2010 5:54:47 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Qbert
This is costing people THEIR LIVELIHOODS!

Since when did LIVELIHOODS matter? The only jobs being created by the Obamateur are in temporary census or and oil spill cleanup.

50 posted on 06/13/2010 6:33:44 PM PDT by alrea (Kagan has never been a judge and has minimal experience practicing law.)
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