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Hispanics in the US: A new generation
BBC News ^ | Thursday, 10 June 2010 | Ana Lucia Gonzalez

Posted on 06/13/2010 3:05:05 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo

Meet Generation 1.5

They were brought to the US at a young age by the parents, first generation immigrants who often still have close ties to their home countries.

Campaigners want the legal limbo of young immigrants resolved

Younger brothers and sisters were born in America, second generation immigrants who enjoy the status of US citizens.

Not Generation 1.5. Despite having lived most of their lives in the US and speaking fluent English, many cannot legally work, vote or drive in most US states. They are subject to arrest and deportation just like any other undocumented migrant.

"They fear being deported but many of them don't know (anything) other than English, so they have no idea what awaits (them) in their countries of origin, said Ruben Rumbaut of the University of California in Irvine, who coined the Generation 1.5 term.

There are no official figures of how many undocumented children live in the US, but the Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 7% of all Hispanic children are unauthorised immigrants.

This suggest there are 1.1 million Latino children who are not US citizens. Children can attend primary and secondary school without being asked about their immigration status, but getting through higher education can be more difficult.

It is estimated that approximately 65,000 undocumented students - both Hispanic and non-Hispanic - graduate each year from high school.

In all but 11 states,

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: generation15; immigrants

1 posted on 06/13/2010 3:05:06 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Bad~Rodeo
first generation immigrants
young immigrants
second generation immigrants
undocumented children
unauthorised immigrants.
Latino children who are not US citizens.
undocumented students

1.5. Despite having lived most of their lives in the US and speaking fluent English, many cannot legally work, vote or drive in most US states. They are subject to arrest and deportation just like any other undocumented migrant.

My God, why can't this author bring himself to call these people what they really are?

They are not citizens and they are not entitled to be here, but they are:

ILLEGAL ALIENS!

CRIMINAL TRESPASSERS

FOREIGN INVADERS

WETBACKS

WELFARE CHEATS

PARASITES

VIOLENT CRIMINALS

ALIENOS ILLEGALOS!!!

2 posted on 06/13/2010 3:34:09 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Find every last one who is here illegally and deport them.

And "brown is beautiful?" What kind if racist talk is this? The last thing our country needs is even MORE racists to bring divisions into people.

If someone can wear a "brown is beautiful" shirt, then a "whitey is beautiful" shirt should also be 100% acceptable.

3 posted on 06/13/2010 3:43:40 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m just guessing, but it might have something to do with her last name


4 posted on 06/13/2010 3:44:40 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (INTEGRATE or VACATE: BoycottMexicoNow.com)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Why don’t they go and be proud of their own country?


5 posted on 06/13/2010 3:46:34 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

With the World Cup being played right now, think they’re cheering for the US? Hell no


6 posted on 06/13/2010 3:51:46 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (INTEGRATE or VACATE: BoycottMexicoNow.com)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
it might have something to do with her last name

Is she a Mexican or a US Citizen?

7 posted on 06/13/2010 4:10:07 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Ana Lucia Gonzalez Paz

Broadcast Journalist at BBC News

London, United Kingdom

8 posted on 06/13/2010 4:16:34 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (INTEGRATE or VACATE: BoycottMexicoNow.com)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Since the BBC loves illegal aliens, the solution is simple. Load up the eastbound Virgin Air flights.


9 posted on 06/13/2010 4:17:19 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: freekitty

They need to go back to Europe where they came from! That’s what they say to us all the time, I guess they forgot they came from Europe too. Oooops!

Oh, and about that Brown People thing - guess they forgot about this too:
White Mexicans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHZjgkEPDf0
white mexico
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-_LCZMgvQ&feature=related
white mexicans=descendants of spaniards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU7vt4_8dTE&feature=related
WHITE MEXICANS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhfG__cipR8&feature=related
Spaniards are White!(so deal with it )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfVVhlQBPCs&feature=related

George Lopez Profanity Alert (aka racist self-hating Mexican)
trying to be white
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb2yfa8FP2w&feature=related
DAMN WHITE PEOPLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYaC4SRMnVE&feature=related
George Lopez White Boy Acts Mexican
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KBtnbtrRgY&feature=related


10 posted on 06/13/2010 4:19:08 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Sucking our public school system dry....

sucking our hospitals penniless...

GO HOME.


11 posted on 06/13/2010 4:21:38 AM PDT by Reagan69 (Let me know when those health insurance premiums go down.)
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They were brought to the US at a young age by the parents, CRIMINAL TRESPASSERS who often still have close ties to their home countries.

Campaigners want the legal limbo of FOREIGN INVADERS resolved.

Younger brothers and sisters were born in America, second generation WETBACKS who enjoy the status of US citizens.

Not Generation 1.5. Despite having lived most of their lives in the US and speaking fluent English, many cannot legally work, vote or drive in most US states. They are subject to arrest and deportation just like any other ALIENOS ILLEGALOS.

"They fear being deported but many of them don't know (anything) other than English, so they have no idea what awaits (them) in their countries of origin, said Ruben Rumbaut of the University of California in Irvine, who coined the Generation 1.5 term.

There are no official figures of how many ILLEGAL ALIEN children live in the US, but the Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 7% of all Hispanic children are PARASITES and VIOLENT CRIMINALS.

This suggest there are 1.1 million Latino children who are not US citizens. Children can attend primary and secondary school without being asked about their immigration status, but getting through higher education can be more difficult.

It is estimated that approximately 65,000 CRIMINAL TRESPASSER students - both Hispanic and non-Hispanic - graduate each year from high school.

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Not quite as warm and fuzzy that way, is it.

12 posted on 06/13/2010 4:33:30 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I kept looking for the part of the story that held the parents lack of respect for the law ruining their children’s lives.


13 posted on 06/13/2010 4:45:24 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Bad~Rodeo
The treatment of generation 1.5 and 2 should be equalized. They are all illegals. 2's citizenship was obtained by criminal acts and is thus fraudulent and must not continue to be recognized.
14 posted on 06/13/2010 4:58:58 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

There is actually a very easy answer to this “problem” that requires the gummint do NOTHING (other than enforce THE LAW). The parents can take their kids home. It is that simple.


15 posted on 06/13/2010 5:00:50 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

We need to deport or imprison ALL illegal aliens, including the so-called anchor babies, seal/secure the border and SHOOT anyone who tries to re-enter illegally.


16 posted on 06/13/2010 5:06:00 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Bad~Rodeo
As long as the government of Mexicorruption deliberately and often with malice violates Article 55 of The Vienna Convention on Consular Relations and Optional Protocols "[Consular members] also have a duty not to interfere in the internal affairs of [the receiving] State" I have no sympathy for generation 1.5's The Race, brownness (or any other color), and demands for a contrived citizenship -- if they forswear (repudiate) Mexicorruption and follow the existing rules --others have done it! -- then OK.

Mexicorruption is cognizant that countries have rules of behavior, I assume.

17 posted on 06/13/2010 5:07:59 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Children can attend primary and secondary school without being asked about their immigration status, but getting through higher education can be more difficult.

Unlike our OWN US Citizen children...these primary school children are allowed to start school without so much as a shot record or a required physical examination.

We're bending over backwards to accommodate them.

18 posted on 06/13/2010 6:01:40 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: All
Keep in mind the invaders get SS#'s for each kid......then use the SS#'s as fake identities to cash in on US govt freebies.....and to vote multiple times.

Illegal Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.

EACH FAKE IDENTITY COLLECTS US GOVT FREEEBIES,
--- AND AS EVERY DESPERATE DEMOCRAT KNOWS ---
EACH FAKE IDENTITY VOTES AND VOTES AND VOTES

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RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN---THE SAGA OF PEDRO An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job mowing loans for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that low wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, so each year, he files an Income Tax Return to get "EITC---earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps and no deductible, no co-pay free health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches. The kids qualify for monthly SSI checks by faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI by faking being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare.

Plus illegals don't have to worry about pricey items like car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance, and they qualify for relief from high energy bills.

ALL OF THAT IS COLLECTED WITH JUST ONE IDENTITY Evidence shows illegals establish several identities with phony SS nos and fake documents (which these "poor immigrants" buy from document brokers for several thousand dollars).

DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR OBAMACARE It is presently against the law to refuse healthcare to illegals. Illegal aliens actually bump US citizens for healthcare. Mexico, the country that is the staging area for illegal invasions, has long-promoted America’s generous public health centers. Mexico operates Ventanillas de Salud---a Spanish-language program---in about 12 US cities that refers its nationals on US soil illegally---to clinics where they can get free medical care without being turned over to immigration authorities.”

19 posted on 06/13/2010 6:15:00 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: spectre
We're bending over backwards to accommodate illegals.

CONTACT YOUR US REPS: Why is the US government providing detention centers for illegal invaders who violated our borders......facilities that are newer, modern, with better health care, including just about everything else that is better than what battle-scarred US servicemen are getting in Veterans hospitals? This must not be allowed to go forward.

FOR YOUR REFERENCE Obama Orders Dance Classes, Movie Nights, and Bingo for Illegal Detainees; ICE to make detention centers more humane
Houston Chronicle | June 8, 2010 | By SUSAN CARROLL

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials are preparing to roll out a series of changes at several privately owned immigration detention centers, including relaxing some security measures for low-risk detainees and offering art classes, bingo and continental breakfast on the weekends.

The changes were welcomed by immigrant advocates who have been waiting for the Obama administration to deliver on a promise made in August to overhaul the nation's immigration detention system.

The 28 changes identified in the e-mail range from the superficial to the substantive. In addition to “softening the look of the facility” with hanging plants and offering fresh carrot sticks, ICE will allow for the “free movement” of low-risk detainees, expand visiting hours and provide unmonitored phone lines.

ICE officials said the changes are part of broader efforts to make the immigration detention system less penal and more humane. But the plans are prompting protests by ICE's union leaders, who say they will jeopardize the safety of agents, guards and detainees and increase the bottom line for taxpayers.

Tre Rebstock, president for Local 3332, the ICE union in Houston, likened the changes to creating “an all-inclusive resort” for immigration detainees. Other major changes include:

• Eliminating lockdowns and lights-out for low-risk detainees.

• Allowing visitors to stay as long as they like in a 12-hour period.

• Allowing low-risk detainees to wear their own clothing or other non-penal attire.

• Providing e-mail access and Internet-based free phone service.

Not about punishment "It's not about punishing people for a crime they committed.” Rosenberg said some of the changes, like new flower baskets, may seem small, but they will combine with the bigger changes to make a difference in the daily lives of detainees. “Taken together they will go some way to making this system less penal,” she said. (Excerpt) Read more at chron.com

20 posted on 06/13/2010 6:20:56 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
And, the cost to send them to school, that alone is over $8bil/yr assuming the 1.1million number is correct.

When you consider the children born here of illegal mothers, that number is EASILY $100bil/yr...for schooling alone...EVERY YEAR.

That doesn't include social costs, welfare, food stamps, medical programs, jails etc.

If illegals and their US born children)are costing the US taxpayer less than $500bil/yr, I'd be astounded.

Nobody like to talk about the cost of the US born children, as if they are real citizens deserving of every benefit.

We have a sever need for an Amendment altering the language of the 14th.

21 posted on 06/13/2010 6:53:02 AM PDT by Mariner (The first Presidential candidate to call for deportation, wins.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

When in doubt, ship’em OUT!


22 posted on 06/13/2010 6:56:59 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Bad~Rodeo

The DREAM Act is ridiculous. It provides tax dollars for student loans to help them go to college then puts them on a path to citizenship if they finish. As if any college degree these days is some kind of great achievement.

The one part of the Act I am open to is providing a citizenship option for those who join the military. If these kids seriously prefer this country to their country of origin, let them serve for three or more years in the military. I dont know if that is currently an option for illegals to become legal, but if it isnt maybe it should be.


23 posted on 06/13/2010 7:01:02 AM PDT by freespirited (There are a lot of bad Republicans but there are no good Democrats.--Ann Coulter)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Illegal immigrants expendable overhead.


24 posted on 06/13/2010 7:03:03 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Bad~Rodeo
The latino lefties are going to have to deal with the new generation of latino conservatives who think this "brown is beautiful" racial division crap is an excuse to get the snot knocked out of them.

They'll never know that the tall moreno behind them was raised right wing conservative until it's too late. It may occur to them on the way to the intensive care unit however...

25 posted on 06/13/2010 7:21:15 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I am not sure where this author got this information.

I work in a 95% Hispanic high school in CA. With a few exceptions, the generation born here to illegal parents are not fluent in English. They have no allegiance to the US and routinely route for “their” country against the US in any sport. Despite growing up here, they cannot tell you who Thomas Jefferson is. They don’t know what Memorial Day is about. They don’t buy in to American customs or beliefs. They have no interest in learning about America. They can’t spell or write an essay. Most of them have no frame of reference to build upon because their families did not take them to zoos, museums, plays and other cultural events.

In addition, we give them free emergency medical care. Free breakfast and lunch every school day. Free pre-natal care if they become pregnant in high school. Free day care for their babies so they can continue high school. Despite all this help, most of them couldn’t care less about their grades. They throw most of that free food away. They all have fancy iPods and cel phones but come to school without a pencil or paper. They don’t do homework. Now they are up in arms because they want us to give them a college education too! They have no respect for our laws. The very foundation of their lives is built on flouting our laws! They have no interest in America other than what they can get out of it.

Be afraid, America. These are the people who will be voting in 2 years.


26 posted on 06/13/2010 7:42:58 AM PDT by Melian ( God is even kinder than you think. ~St. Teresa)
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We should be afraid of a invading army!! Our nation was built on the concept of ASSIMILATION OF DIVERSE CULTURES , there is no assimilation with the Mexicans ,send them home!!


27 posted on 06/13/2010 7:57:21 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Why are they afraid to say/write “Mexican”? It’s really ignorant (and not untypical of liberals) to lump every tan skinned Spanish speaking person into one big hopper like Hispanic or Latino for political purposes.


28 posted on 06/13/2010 8:05:44 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Mexico presents a more profound threat to our territorial integrity than Germany or Japan ever did.)
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To: omegadawn

Because of the sheer numbers, there is very little assimilation going on.

They celebrate their “own” holidays. They don’t want to assimilate. Most of these teens have never carved a Halloween pumpkin, attended a baseball game, gone to the zoo or a museum, or watched much of our television shows.

It is an alternate reality with its own music, tv, radio, sports, and culture.

And they like it that way.


29 posted on 06/13/2010 8:16:04 AM PDT by Melian ( God is even kinder than you think. ~St. Teresa)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Someday people are going to realize how racist Hispanics are...


30 posted on 06/13/2010 8:20:36 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Why are they afraid to say/write “Mexican”? It’s really ignorant (and not untypical of liberals) to lump every tan skinned Spanish speaking person into one big hopper like Hispanic or Latino for political purposes.

You're right. I rally meant to say "Mexicans"...

31 posted on 06/13/2010 8:21:58 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: omegadawn
We should be afraid of a invading army!! Our nation was built on the concept of ASSIMILATION OF DIVERSE CULTURES

The two battles the US is facing are against Islam and Mexican culture...both are trying to crush American culture...

32 posted on 06/13/2010 8:24:10 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Enforce the law now.


33 posted on 06/13/2010 8:30:49 AM PDT by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2533609/posts?page=17#17
34 posted on 06/13/2010 9:08:57 AM PDT by bigheadfred (I said free association. Not freely associate.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

WE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME LAWS PERTAINING TO OUR BORDERS AS THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT HAS PERTAINING TO THEIR BORDERS AND OUR BORDER PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED !


35 posted on 06/13/2010 9:43:19 AM PDT by Macgedos
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU CAN GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:
1 - A JOB, (you know, ‘doing the jobs AMERICANS refuse to do’ and if it’s ‘under the table’ you don’t pay taxes like Americans have to do)
2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE, (but not a requirement, feel free to drive without a license, vehicle registration, or insurance!)
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, (or you can buy/steal someone else’s with no consequences)
4 - WELFARE, (paid with American TAX DOLLARS)
5 - FOOD STAMPS, (paid with American TAX DOLLARS)
6 - CREDIT CARDS (pshaw, who needs to pay those back?! Just get another new one)
7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, (or heck, just a free house, after all ,you are ENTITLED as ‘an immigrant’ regardless of your legal status)(paid with American TAX DOLLARS)
8 - FREE EDUCATION, (paid with American TAX DOLLARS)
9 - FREE HEALTH CARE, (paid with American TAX DOLLARS)
10 - A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON (paid with American TAX DOLLARS)
11 - BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE (paid with American TAX DOLLARS)
12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT AS YOU STOMP ON OLD GLORY OR BURN HER IN PROTEST.(paid with the BLOOD OF AMERICAN MILITARY HEROES)
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I would add
13 - “UNDYING LIBERAL SUPPORT FOR THE INVASION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA UNDER THE GUISE OF “HUMAN RIGHTS” “


36 posted on 06/13/2010 10:35:33 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Melian

Invading armies don’t assimilate, they assimilate you to their culture!


37 posted on 06/13/2010 10:46:12 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

This is another harmful consequence of the FAILURE to enforce the law over the past 20-30 years.


38 posted on 06/13/2010 11:02:57 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Bad~Rodeo

>>With the World Cup being played right now, think they’re cheering for the US? Hell no
*****

Hell NO. I have mexican neighbors who were cheering for the mexican tie but these same asshats were quiet when the US tied it. Theire loyalty is NOT with America until everyone here speaks Spanish.


39 posted on 06/13/2010 11:26:16 AM PDT by max americana
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Bookmark


40 posted on 06/13/2010 3:25:30 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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