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Ban on gay men giving blood called outdated
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 13, 2010 | SCRIPPS HOWARD

Posted on 06/13/2010 7:24:51 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh

Since 1985 federal rules say that a man who had sex with another man even once since 1977 is banned permanently from donating blood. Yet there's only a one-year ban for a man who has had sex with an HIV-positive woman.

The policy was re-examined last week in Washington, D.C., at a meeting of an advisory panel of the Department of Health and Human Services. A change would significantly increase the pool of donors and could boost blood donations nationwide.

"By clinging to a 1980s view of the world, we are perpetuating a stereotype," said Quigley (D-Chicago).

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The current "window period" -- the time it takes from the date of exposure for an infection to show up on a screening test -- ranges from 7.4 days to 38 days, depending on the type of infection. Thus, the statement says, a one-year ban allows plenty of time to account for false negatives to show up in subsequent tests.

IIRC, a significant number of gay men engage in an ongoing series of high risk encounters. So where does the 1 year ban begin or end?

1 posted on 06/13/2010 7:24:51 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Let these brave newspaper men be the first to receive donated blood from the high risk population...


2 posted on 06/13/2010 7:27:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I say, let’s accept blood from gays...that is what we give to democrats...


3 posted on 06/13/2010 7:27:48 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Can I open a homo-free blood bank for hospital patients that want to live long term?


4 posted on 06/13/2010 7:29:08 AM PDT by omega4179 (www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
I would say that if you know of an upcoming surgery, take advantage of the program that some hosptials have of donating your own blood a couple of months in advance to be used if you need a transfusion.

I find it ironic as I am 64-years old...I (and my entire class) had yellowjaundice back when I was about 10 years old, and to this day they STILL won't take my blood donations because of it.

But, we want to take the blood of one of the highest risk for a fatal disease - aids - in the world, just to be "politically correct"? What planet is this?
5 posted on 06/13/2010 7:29:32 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I also seem to recall a number of HIV positive men declaring that they would try to spread the infection to the straight community by any route available.


6 posted on 06/13/2010 7:29:38 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

...gay men are an infectious community...they should be forbidden from donating blood...or...the blood should be labeled “gay donated” and let the patient have the choice.


7 posted on 06/13/2010 7:30:17 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Malone LaVeigh

PC trumping common sense.


8 posted on 06/13/2010 7:30:59 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

If it was only about a well defined pathigen known as HIV, they might have a bit of a point.

But the facts are that the homosexual lifestyle can expose participants to new, and yet to be isolated, bugs that shouldn’t be brought to the general population.

When aids first became popular in the 80s, an elderly physician told me that during his entire career, homosexual men in the prime of life would sometimes get very seriously and mysteriously ill for unknown causes and usually pass on in quick order.

The current rules make good sense.


9 posted on 06/13/2010 7:35:10 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Since 1985 federal rules say that a man who had sex with another man even once since 1977 is banned permanently from donating blood. Yet there's only a one-year ban for a man who has had sex with an HIV-positive woman.

Fine then ban both.

A change would significantly increase the pool of donors and could boost blood donations nationwide.

Baloney. Gay men simply do not make up that much of the population. A reversal of the ban would no increase the pool of donors.

10 posted on 06/13/2010 7:35:27 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Wpin

The Democraps already have been infused with homosexual blood!

That’s why they’re liberal, Progressive pansies.


11 posted on 06/13/2010 7:37:18 AM PDT by IbJensen ((Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: Wpin

and I say start at the top.


12 posted on 06/13/2010 7:38:26 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I’ve been banned because I was stationed at Sigonella, Sicily in the early ‘90s; something to do with mad cow disease in Britain.


13 posted on 06/13/2010 7:39:32 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“Ban on gay men giving blood called outdated”

Anyone who believes that should only be given transfusions from gay mens’ blood. This should go for their children and grandchildren as well.


14 posted on 06/13/2010 7:40:26 AM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 13 days.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
""By clinging to a 1980s view of the world, we are perpetuating a stereotype," said Quigley (D-Chicago)."

Yes, how utterly closed were the minds of men from the 1980s. Why, those cromagnons didn't even believe that homosexual perverts should have the right to marry, or to spread AIDS. Now government has become so enlightened they're allowing Americans to have the tainted blood of these homosexual deviates transfused into our veins. Oh the clarity of modern man. Oh the gift of liberalism. I just can't wait to see what the truly enlightened days of 2020 will look like, (if there is a 2020).

15 posted on 06/13/2010 7:40:28 AM PDT by jiminycricket000
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“Significant”?

I think not.

Numbers were always a problem for leftists.


16 posted on 06/13/2010 7:42:51 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Serving abroad in Europe also prevents you from donating blood. Funny, you don’t hear us whining about “the right” to put the generaal population at risk for “Mad Cow.”


17 posted on 06/13/2010 7:44:42 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Why is the symbolism of this so important to gays? I don’t get it... they might need blood someday, too.


18 posted on 06/13/2010 7:44:43 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Homo blood?

No, I’m good - thanks

But, I’ve chopped off your arm!!!

Did not!!


19 posted on 06/13/2010 7:44:47 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Ban on gay men giving blood called outdated

More "Obamacare" nonsense? Thin out the herd before they become an encumbrance on the system? A little infected blood here and there and WAMMO - less seniors to care for!

20 posted on 06/13/2010 7:46:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ALPAPilot

I’m banned too because of mad cow disease in Britain.


21 posted on 06/13/2010 7:54:59 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

To start with, saving your own blood for a future transfusion, usually for cosmetic or planned surgery, like hip replacement, is called an “autologous donation”. To assist in this, there are injections that will stimulate your production of red blood cells, reducing the time involved. This is also important, as blood donations have a time limit for freshness.

Among the diseases and other problems that can be transmitted via transfusion are viral, bacterial, cancers, parasites, toxic chemicals and metals, poisons, and toxins.

A lot of research is being put into blood substitutes and what are called “oxygen therapeutics”, that actually carry oxygen better than the hemoglobin in red blood cells. Some of these had made it to phase III trials, so might be available in just a few years.


22 posted on 06/13/2010 7:56:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Giving ‘gay’ blood to a conservative = giving Superman a cryptonite jockstrap.


23 posted on 06/13/2010 7:56:21 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I’ve been banned because I was stationed at Sigonella, Sicily in the early ‘90s; something to do with mad cow disease in Britain.


24 posted on 06/13/2010 7:57:17 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I’m for everyone having freedom and respect under the law. That’s said, I have a right to know that any blood I might receive by transfusion is not from a demographic that has a significantly higher risk of being infected with many communicable diseases, not just HIV. This is absolutely ludicrous.


25 posted on 06/13/2010 7:58:51 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Malone LaVeigh
    FTM!
  1. Rules changed
  2. Gay males allowed to donate blood
  3. HIV+ blood gets into the blood supply
  4. Blood recipient gets HIV
  5. Blood recipient sues blood bank
  6. Democrat lawyers make a ton of money

26 posted on 06/13/2010 8:02:49 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Mich Patriot

Sorry. I’m both. Remember not all of ‘us’ are the same. I’m in full support of upholding the ban.


27 posted on 06/13/2010 8:03:18 AM PDT by musicbymuzak
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To: umgud

My thoughts too - this time in history is like an awful nightmare that you just can;t wake up form. November or die !


28 posted on 06/13/2010 8:04:00 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: Malone LaVeigh






. . . just sayin'.

29 posted on 06/13/2010 8:04:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Having listened to a homo describe his lifestyle, I can honestly say I have no desire to be injected with Fruit Juice, infected or not.


30 posted on 06/13/2010 8:06:54 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Malone LaVeigh
People who spent more than 90 days in the UK during a certain period in the 1980s aren't allowed to give blood in the US either - 'less the brains of those receiving it turn to sponge.

Personally I've never been a part of any organized protest by possible BSE carriers and have simply not donated. Reasonable people might conclude that if there is any risk at all of passing on something fatal with their blood maybe they just shouldn't donate.

31 posted on 06/13/2010 8:06:55 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Anyone who favors this change should be required to receive *only* blood from male homosexuals when they need blood.And their families should also be required to get blood *only* from the same source.When I had major hip surgery recently my surgeon strongly advised me to store my own blood in advance.He didn't have to explain why and,of course,I did so.
32 posted on 06/13/2010 8:08:34 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Farmer Dean
I also seem to recall a number of HIV positive men declaring that they would try to spread the infection to the straight community by any route available.

This should be cause to hold government employees and lobbyists personally and criminally libel should this be instituted. We have a history where hemophiliacs died by the tens of thousands because of tainted blood.

33 posted on 06/13/2010 8:09:39 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Malone LaVeigh

So now it’s more important to assuage the fragile self esteem of homosexuals than it is to protect the innocent public.

Stop the world, I want off.


34 posted on 06/13/2010 8:12:01 AM PDT by GrannyAnn
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To: pnh102
Fine then ban both.

We are witnessing the classic liberal attempt to swerve in the WRONG DIRECTION to be "fair".

You are correct, ban both...

35 posted on 06/13/2010 8:12:15 AM PDT by SteamShovel (If the RAT party is for Hippies, the "Tea Party" is for "Teapies".)
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To: Wpin

Very good idea ;-)


36 posted on 06/13/2010 8:14:53 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Serving abroad in Europe also prevents you from donating blood.

I donate platelets monthly at my local blood center. On every visit I have to go through a checklist of things that would prevent me donating.
If I've ever had malaria.
If I've had a tattoo or body piercing.
If I've ever taken intravenous drugs.
If I've ever spent more than 72 hours in jail (???).
If I've ever had sex with someone from Africa.
The list goes on and on. I'm sure there's a legitimate reason for all these exclusions, and many of them probably pose a lower level of risk.

37 posted on 06/13/2010 8:17:37 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Let them give blood.
C'mon, it's the 21st century, guys!
Take their blood, give them a drink and a cookie as they leave, and then toss out the pint with the other bio-hazards.
They've given blood - nobody ever uses it - everybody's happy
38 posted on 06/13/2010 8:22:47 AM PDT by jrg
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Go autologous before elective surgery. Pray hard for protection in emergency requirements.


39 posted on 06/13/2010 8:33:52 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jeff Chandler

You left out Kagan.


40 posted on 06/13/2010 8:55:56 AM PDT by upchuck (Don't let freedom slip away. After America, there is no place to go ~ Kitty Werthmann - Google her.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

This is an incredibly stupid idea.

While it is true the blood banks are already screening donated blood for HIV/AIDS, why increase the risk so the faggots can feel more “normal.” They aren’t, never have been, never will be. Sad fact of life.


41 posted on 06/13/2010 8:59:34 AM PDT by upchuck (Don't let freedom slip away. After America, there is no place to go ~ Kitty Werthmann - Google her.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Seeing as how many gay men carry many not so nice dieases I think the ban should remain in place. AFAIK there is a several month period from exposure to HIV and it showing up in a test and for that one reason alone the ban should stay.


42 posted on 06/13/2010 9:16:58 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Malone LaVeigh
I donate platelets monthly at my local blood center. On every visit I have to go through a checklist of things that would prevent me donating.
If I've ever had malaria.
If I've had a tattoo or body piercing.
If I've ever taken intravenous drugs.
If I've ever spent more than 72 hours in jail (???).
If I've ever had sex with someone from Africa.
The list goes on and on. I'm sure there's a legitimate reason for all these exclusions, and many of them probably pose a lower level of risk.


Does that include having been screwed by a Kenyan?
43 posted on 06/13/2010 9:36:35 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: Malone LaVeigh

barry must want to donate....


44 posted on 06/13/2010 9:37:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Malone LaVeigh
This is just another version of the Community Reinvestment Act/Subprime Mortgage Collapse.

Screening people for their ability to repay a mortgage or probability of transmitting a chronic disease in their blood is bigoted, don't you know?

45 posted on 06/13/2010 9:38:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: reg45
I seem to remember Bubba Clintoon shipping tainted blood from Arkansas prisons in the early 1980’s while he was Gov. A lot of it ended up in Canada. Search for it on the net.
46 posted on 06/13/2010 9:43:47 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: seemoAR

Yes, and it made it into the news for about 57 minutes and then it disappeared into the democrat scandal hole...


47 posted on 06/13/2010 10:00:52 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Malone LaVeigh

These leftists tried in vain to tell us that AIDS was a disease of both men and women.

Sorry, but AIDS is primarily a GAY MANS disease! You queers can keep your Bath House, HIV, disease infested blood!

Politcal Correctness Kills!


48 posted on 06/13/2010 10:02:18 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Common sense is “outdated?”

My....oh my....


49 posted on 06/13/2010 10:04:11 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SteamShovel
We are witnessing the classic liberal attempt to swerve in the WRONG DIRECTION to be "fair".

Fairness. One of the central tenets of liberal ideology.

50 posted on 06/13/2010 10:35:54 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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