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Raft guide arrested after saving girl.
Denver Post ^ | June 13, 2010 | Jason Blevins

Posted on 06/14/2010 6:33:54 AM PDT by bjorn14

Clear Creek sheriff's deputies on Thursday arrested a rafting guide for swimming to a stranded young rafter who had tumbled from his boat on Clear Creek.

Ryan Daniel Snodgrass, a 28-year-old guide with Arkansas Valley Adventures rafting company, was charged with "obstructing government operations," said Clear Creek Sheriff Don Krueger.

"He was told not to go in the water, and he jumped in and swam over to the victim and jeopardized the rescue operation," said Krueger, noting that his office was deciding whether to file similar charges against another guide who was at the scene just downstream of Kermitts Roadhouse on U.S. 6.

Duke Bradford, owner of Arkansas Valley Adventures, said Snodgrass did the right thing by contacting the 13-year-old Texas girl immediately and not waiting for the county's search and rescue team to assemble ropes, rafts and rescuers.

"When you have someone in sight who has taken a long swim, you need to make contact immediately," said Bradford, a 15-year rafting guide and ski patroller from Summit County. "This is just silly. Ryan Snodgrass acted entirely appropriately. These guys came to the scene late and there was a rescue in progress. They came in and took over an existing rescue. To leave a patient on the side of a river while you get your gear out of the car and set up a rescue system you read about in a book is simply not good policy."

Snodgrass' raft flipped on the runoff-swelled Clear Creek around noon Thursday and the girl swam from the raft. Krueger said the girl was missing for 30 to 45 minutes while Snodgrass searched for her. He said she swam a half mile from the spot where the raft capsized.

Since it had been so long, Krueger said, it was no longer the rafting company's rescue.

"They should involve themselves up to a point. They lost contact. Whether they want to say they were trying to rescue their customer, when they had lost visual contact and had no idea where their customer has been for 30 to 45 minutes, then it becomes our issue."

Bradford said he would expect his guides to do the same thing again. His guides are professionals, he said, trained and certified in swiftwater rescue.

"To jump into water and navigate a river in a swiftwater rescue is common. You get into the river and swim. You have to do it," Branford said. "The fact these guys don't understand that is disturbing. Making contact immediately with your victim is essential. It's not about who is in charge. It's about the safety of a 13-year-old girl. You are going to do everything in your power to insure the safety of your guest, and if that means in Idaho Springs you get arrested, well I guess we'll just get arrested."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: colorado; donutwatch; lping; outdoors; police; rescue; unions
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1 posted on 06/14/2010 6:33:54 AM PDT by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

“obstructing government operations”

that cannot seriously be a crime in Colorado.


2 posted on 06/14/2010 6:37:03 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: bjorn14

Interfering with UNIONS? Not ‘their’ job....to save a life?


3 posted on 06/14/2010 6:37:32 AM PDT by yoe (The "N" word stands for NO...as in NO MORE VOTES FOR IRRESPONSIBLE CONGRESSMEN OR SENATORS.The new)
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To: bjorn14

Makes a good ad for Arkansas Adventures, I’d say.


4 posted on 06/14/2010 6:37:49 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: bjorn14

This will NOT end well for the stupid Sherrif.

What a maroon!

If that was my daughter, I would sue the Sherrifs dept for obstruction

The stupid Goverment strikes again


5 posted on 06/14/2010 6:38:01 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: bjorn14

Thank God the girl is safe! The rest of the story is nuts! Whoever can get there the quickest should be the one to go after her. We live in a strange world these days.


6 posted on 06/14/2010 6:38:25 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: bjorn14

It’s now become a crime to save someone?

Orwellian indeed....how many have rushed into burning buildings and saved children while the fire dept is in route?


7 posted on 06/14/2010 6:38:55 AM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: bjorn14

“I shot the sheriff”


8 posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:16 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: bjorn14

I don’t know the legalities, or the rules of conduct, but arresting this guide seems petty and vindictive. Especially since it was a successful attempt. Is the sheriff peeved he didn’t get the credit?


9 posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:30 AM PDT by bcsco (Steven Chu: Obama's chu chu brain...)
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To: bjorn14

Typical bureaucrats. They care about “process” and have no concern for results.


10 posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:35 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: bjorn14
It's not about who is in charge.

Oh, I think it is. It very much is.

11 posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Hope he asks for a jury trial.
The sheriff needs to have his hat stove in.
12 posted on 06/14/2010 6:40:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: bjorn14

Hope he demands a jury trial.


13 posted on 06/14/2010 6:40:51 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: bjorn14

Cops are more interested in stroking their egos than serving the public.


14 posted on 06/14/2010 6:41:34 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: bert

But didn’t shoot the deputy..............


15 posted on 06/14/2010 6:41:47 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: bjorn14

In before the Southpark pictures.


16 posted on 06/14/2010 6:42:29 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: bjorn14

Something is definitely wrong when it is illegal for a qualified rescuer to help someone in need.


17 posted on 06/14/2010 6:43:07 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: bjorn14

Is the greed, stupidity, laziness, and ineffectiveness of government employees and elected officials a symptom of our general decline or are they leading the charge?


18 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:10 AM PDT by hometoroost (Proverbs 8:36 - All those who hate me love death.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Well, they, the government, had to schedule a meeting to decide how to handle the problem, set money aside, have rescue boats made ready, called the press for pictures and then when everything was ready start the rescue attempt.

Figure in about a month.

STUPID GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE BONE.


19 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:17 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: mad_as_he$$

>>>Hope he demands a jury trial.

Jury trial is not enough - need at least one juror to see it for what it is, and lead the rest to nullification.


20 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:22 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa
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To: stinkerpot65

I’ve said this for over a decade: Anyone who aspires to be a cop today is either ignorant and naive or a brown shirt wannabee.

Or they just need a job - ANY job.


21 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:24 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Excellent idea. JN has gotten pushed to far to the side.


22 posted on 06/14/2010 6:45:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: bjorn14

What is with Colorado LEOs? You would have thought they would have learned from Columbine.


23 posted on 06/14/2010 6:46:19 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: bjorn14

24 posted on 06/14/2010 6:46:25 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: lady lawyer

Except for when the results show that their “process” has not common sense.


25 posted on 06/14/2010 6:47:17 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Crim

Not to argue with your point, however rushing into a burning building can, and has, created a second victim for the fire dept to deal with if done recklessly. Compounding the situation for the firefighters is never a good idea. In this case, however, the rescuer was certified in the type of rescue he was attempting.


26 posted on 06/14/2010 6:47:17 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: bboop
Makes a good ad for Arkansas Adventures, I’d say.

Agreed! I like this line especially: "You are going to do everything in your power to insure(sic) the safety of your guest, and if that means in Idaho Springs you get arrested, well I guess we'll just get arrested."

27 posted on 06/14/2010 6:48:08 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: bjorn14
If you really want to piss off cops do their job for them , using only backbone and courage.
28 posted on 06/14/2010 6:49:10 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: bjorn14

And if the girl had drowned while the “rescue team” was setting up, then the company would have likely been sued and the authorities would be off the hook. Another example of how we are expected to just sit around and wait for “the government” to take care of us. Good thing for this girl and her family that the guide did not do that.


29 posted on 06/14/2010 6:50:40 AM PDT by D1X1E (Trust but verify... especially if you got your information from the government.)
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To: bjorn14

It sounds as though the sheriff didn’t exactly follow procedure either, in as much as no dogs were shot...


30 posted on 06/14/2010 6:51:27 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: bjorn14

After 30 to 45 minutes, that girl was probably very tired, and possibly suffering from hypothermia. The guide was right to save her, or at least prevent her from washing further downstream.


31 posted on 06/14/2010 6:51:52 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: bjorn14

“Bruising the egos of government workers on official business”. That is risky.


32 posted on 06/14/2010 6:51:56 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: bcsco
Egos were bruised. All that garbage about jurisdiction is a joke. No juror in their right mind would convict so I hope this person fights these vicious charges right to the end.
33 posted on 06/14/2010 6:52:06 AM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: bjorn14
I guess I'll join the minority on this one. What if the guide had jumped in and ended up in trouble himself? Then there would have been two people in need of rescue. He defied an order from a law enforcement officer.

34 posted on 06/14/2010 6:52:35 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: bjorn14

The rescuer just needs one real American on the jury. I would acquit, regardless of the judge’s instructions.


35 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: bjorn14

Bureaucracy gone mad.

But then NYC has been known to have firefighters and police officers fighting over who is in charge of an emergency.


36 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:05 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: org.whodat

Just imagine if a civilian rescued a bunch of civilians from terrorists before the SWAT team and the news vans arrived.


37 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:34 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: mrsixpack36
Egos were bruised.

That's the crux of it.

38 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:58 AM PDT by bcsco (Steven Chu: Obama's chu chu brain...)
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To: FourPeas

I was a volunteer fire-fighter for 3 years.

If my house was on fire, I have some training (if no SCBA gear). And - most importantly - I know the lay of the land - the layout of my house, and where my wife has stacked stuff (boxes of donations, and other stuff).

I’d be better off in the house than a fire-fighter who does NOT have any idea the floorplan of my house, or the obstructions.

That said, having the training and using it are two different things.


39 posted on 06/14/2010 6:54:25 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: Tribune7

lotsa libtards in colorado..


40 posted on 06/14/2010 6:54:50 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: smokingfrog

Daughter was rafting on the Arkansas River this past weekend. They were told the water was 50 degrees.

Hopefully the girl had a wet suit but the guide is a hero.

The parents ought to make a very big public stink about the ‘rules’ baloney.


41 posted on 06/14/2010 6:55:34 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: bjorn14
And if the rafting employees had just sat on their haunches and done nothing but wait for "government employees" and the girl drowned, they'd probably get charged for something else. Either way they are probably going to get sued for the raft flipping over and causing pain and suffering, blah, blah, blah.

It's a shame we live in a culture where one is dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. We live in a culture where we have to second guess ourselves to think out a hypothetical scenario before we take any action.

42 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:42 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: bjorn14

I hope the girl’s parents sues the County for “hindering a hero while performing above and beyond the call of duty”.


43 posted on 06/14/2010 6:57:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: bjorn14
Another cop ego story:

Dallas Fire Captain arrested

The fire captain's offense? He touched a policeman on the chest.

44 posted on 06/14/2010 7:01:00 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: bjorn14
We're with the government and we're here to help.
45 posted on 06/14/2010 7:02:52 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Sender
Under the jail you Bast******, they were putting their Gilly suits on. LOL
46 posted on 06/14/2010 7:04:20 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Genoa
Because I guarantee the guide knew ALOT more about the river and the dangers than the government rescuers EVER would.

The guide is 100% correct in his actions. The sheriff is an idiot.

I have personally assisted in hundreds of "river rescues". When you are a river guide, swimming in rapids and performing rescues are what you do. It's like the sheriff telling Ray Lewis not to make a tackle on a football field because it is "too dangerous" and he could get hurt. Well, duh.

47 posted on 06/14/2010 7:04:25 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: bjorn14

OFGS. Who ARE these people??


48 posted on 06/14/2010 7:06:13 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: gibsosa

Make you think South Park is a documentary.


49 posted on 06/14/2010 7:07:00 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: bjorn14

This thread shows a total lack of respect for law enforcement


50 posted on 06/14/2010 7:09:40 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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