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U.S. Pays $400 Million in Bonuses to Federal Employees
biggovernment .com ^ | June 14, 2010 | Publius

Posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:17 PM PDT by PROCON

The Obama Administration handed out more than $400 million in awards to federal employees last year, up by more than $80 million from the prior year, according to new government data.

The biggest winners were air traffic controllers and top managers in Washington, a review of fiscal year 2009 salary reports from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management showed.

OPM’s data, obtained by the Asbury Park Press through a freedom of information request, account for 1.3 million employees, or about 65 percent of the federal civilian work force.

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


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KEYWORDS: democrats; economy; employees; federal; federalemployees; government; lping; obama; public
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I'm just a lowly state government worker who didn't get anything, but a steady job.
1 posted on 06/14/2010 6:39:17 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

This needs to be ALL OVER THE NET - immediately.


2 posted on 06/14/2010 6:40:17 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

$400 million is a tiny amount. Federal employees’ award amounts are a much smaller percentage of their benefit outlays than anything you find in the private sector.


3 posted on 06/14/2010 6:41:59 PM PDT by Poundstone
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To: PROCON

I’d like to see the same reaction by the fedgov that they had to AIG paying bonuses after receiving a bailout.

the executives should be fired, the money should be confiscated from accounts, and their salaries should be radically reduced

I won’t be holding my breath...


4 posted on 06/14/2010 6:42:34 PM PDT by sten
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To: PROCON

Our brave men and women in the US military need a bonus ...

not one of the bureaucrats of the federal monolith.

All bonuses to federal workers, including Congress, should be banned.

Then we need to address the unwieldy federal pay schedules with pay based on the city you work in.


5 posted on 06/14/2010 6:42:57 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: anniegetyourgun
NEWS, federal government employees get $200 each (on average) in government's bonus plan.

With this money they can buy 30 6-packs of gluten free beer!

6 posted on 06/14/2010 6:43:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Poundstone

But the big, fat pension, with COLA’s and lifetime health insurance for producing nothing is still pretty good.


7 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:08 PM PDT by wac3rd (Gulf oil spews...Obama sues.)
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To: PROCON

Obamao has those federal, union employees covered.


8 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:16 PM PDT by pallis
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To: PROCON

Bonus for what? Government is a net loss, so they’re being awarded for what, most lost?


9 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:21 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Poundstone
$400 million is a tiny amount.

I beg to differ...the private sector doesn't give out bonuses via our tax dollars.

In this Economic recession, you'd think bonuses and cost of living allowances would be frozen!

10 posted on 06/14/2010 6:45:44 PM PDT by PROCON (Proudly Served U.S. Army 6/69-1/72 & 12/75-1/82)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
up by more than $80 million from the prior year... The biggest winners were air traffic controllers and top managers in Washington... account for 1.3 million employees, or about 65 percent of the federal civilian work force

11 posted on 06/14/2010 6:46:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: K-oneTexas
The basic pay schedule is the same everywhere. Certain cities are considered very high cost areas where it's difficult to hire specialists.

The cold, hard facts are that if they didn't offer premium pay for working in those cities (in mostly VERY DANGEROUS downtown locations) they'd not have any employees willing to go there year after miserable year (and most government jobs involve working on projects stretching over decades, so you can't just replace them at the drop of a hat).

Rather than raise everyone's wage everywhere just so they can get a few specialists in some places, they raise just those specialists' pay.

Oh, yeah, and screw everybody else who works in a less dangerous, less costly place.

Just the way it is.

12 posted on 06/14/2010 6:47:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PROCON

As many government employees there are, this is hardly surprising. I’d be more interested in how it was distributed.

There are probably several people at Goldman Sachs combined that received more money than this in bonuses.


13 posted on 06/14/2010 6:47:13 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: PROCON
COLAs are only frozen for senior citizens who actually paid into the system. The freeloaders in our bloated government were exempted.
14 posted on 06/14/2010 6:48:03 PM PDT by Carling (Remember November)
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To: wac3rd
The federal pensions are paid out of funds that are, for the most part, funded up front by deductions from federal employee salaries.

And "lifetime medical insurance" is NOT FREE.

15 posted on 06/14/2010 6:48:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KoRn

Your sure Goldman Sachs is still a private company and not a government agency? It’s so hard to keep up with the Fascism brigade.


16 posted on 06/14/2010 6:50:46 PM PDT by listenhillary (You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
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To: muawiyah

Screw the high risk. Others work in those same downtown ares for state and local governments as well as private companies.

Sounds to me like one way to reduce the federal government workforce and close and sell off what in reality is unneeded building from the federal inventory.

Sorry, if I seem harsh. Spent upwards of 30 years in the military, didn’t get Hazardous Duty pay for working in Washington DC or any where else state-side.

Plus we can get rid of the gov’t unions too. Excessive overhead demands radical excisions.


17 posted on 06/14/2010 6:51:07 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Carling

Social Security didn’t get a COLA increase this year. The majority of federal government employees are covered by Social Security. Only a few elderly holdovers under only CSRS are not covered. They won’t receive it either when they retire. BTW, CSRS and FERS retirees didn’t get a COLA increase this year either ~ see http://www.myfederalretirement.com/public/376.cfm


18 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: K-oneTexas

Agree. Bonuses for what? Their vote.


19 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:52 PM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) amounts through the internet from all over the world.)
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To: Poundstone

It’s not the amount - it’s the hypocrisy.


20 posted on 06/14/2010 6:54:41 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: wac3rd
I would suggest you look into the “big fat pension”, COLA’s, and lifetime health insurance before opening your trap. The pension for feds (not unionized gov emp) is 30% of avg high 3 yrs salary, + social security, + whatever they have contributed to their Thrift Savings Plan. COLA last year for workers: 1.5%, for retiree's 0 COLA (probably same for this year). Health for life cost approx $400 per month and insurance usually only pays 80% of services.
21 posted on 06/14/2010 6:54:49 PM PDT by coop223
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To: K-oneTexas
You wouldn't have lasted 20 minutes walking around outside the USPS Brentwood facility at 2 AM Fur Shur.

Most all military facilities in the DC region are well set back from roads, have plenty of onsite parking, have guard services all over the place, AND, best of all, are encased in chainlink fences of 12 to 16 ft in height.

That's for the ones in the suburbs where it's safe.

22 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: anniegetyourgun

23 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:31 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: PROCON; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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24 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:49 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: muawiyah

Oh - in that case...never mind. It’s great news...I’m so pleased the government is using our funds this way, especially without oversight from the “pay czar.” Yes - more redistribution of our money to the federal workers. In fact, maybe we could give bonuses to those who don’t watch porn on the job...as a reward for doing the right thing.


25 posted on 06/14/2010 6:58:22 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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26 posted on 06/14/2010 7:00:34 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: PROCON

They should be bonused for what they produce.

Pray for America


27 posted on 06/14/2010 7:01:36 PM PDT by bray (Throw the Bums out starting w/McCain)
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To: Poundstone

“...$400 million is a tiny amount. Federal employees’ award
amounts are a much smaller percentage of their benefit outlays
than anything you find in the private sector...”
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The private sector has frozen salaries.
The private sector has eliminated bonuses.
The private sector has layed off workers.
I suspect you work for my broke-ass Uncle Sam.


28 posted on 06/14/2010 7:02:20 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Well, I retired from the federal government last month and am now working for a large multinational corporation. My federal pension is a nice income supplement, I will admit.


29 posted on 06/14/2010 7:05:08 PM PDT by Poundstone
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To: coop223

Unionized workers and if you mention my trap, I will kick your teeth (false) in.


30 posted on 06/14/2010 7:07:21 PM PDT by wac3rd (Gulf oil spews...Obama sues.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The gal honchoing MMS (the place where they were watching porn on the job) got fired in the BP oil scandal.

I believe the disposition of the offending personnel is still under consideration.

BTW, I had one of America's few jobs (outside the mob owned porn shops) where it was a job requirement to occasionally handle and evaluate pornography ~ and the US government paid me to do that.

It's probably too complex to explain it to you, but it's like this ~ ain't no thang!

Let me among the first to suggest that a government employee would have to be bored out of his nut to think watching internet porn would be better than sleeping on the job.

31 posted on 06/14/2010 7:10:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Poundstone
My federal pension is a nice income supplement, I will admit.

AHA!! That's why you were earlier defending my post's title!!

Hey, you deserve your pension, I'm just sick of unneccessary government waste, be it this or whatever else.

32 posted on 06/14/2010 7:12:04 PM PDT by PROCON (Proudly Served U.S. Army 6/69-1/72 & 12/75-1/82)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Still, that’s only on the average. There are still people who have gotten PROMOTIONS during the Obama Depression. Today I helped a young man start his own business. He’ll do well.


33 posted on 06/14/2010 7:12:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PROCON

While I too lament the huge amount these bureaucrats rake in, they cannot be separated from the thousands of Guard and Reserve full time employees that work as Federal employees. I was one for 13 years and really appreciated the ONE bonus I earned (and I do mean EARNED). I have also given out well-deserved bonuses.

The top levels are generously compensated, but, if you do a bit of research, the income of a typical mid-level federal employee, GS-5, GS-7, GS-9 is NOT out of line for the military technicians. In some locations, they simply cannot keep people, as they cannot afford to live there on that income (bases in the D.C area for example).

Find a way to separate military federal employees from the blood-suckers, I’m all for freezes on raises and bonuses!


34 posted on 06/14/2010 7:13:42 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (We live in interesting times)
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To: PROCON

Where I work, we only get a bonus if the company has positive cash flow.
Not so with the GS types.


35 posted on 06/14/2010 7:17:03 PM PDT by Rio (Fix the leak, Daddy!)
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To: muawiyah
The federal pensions are paid out of funds that are, for the most part, funded up front by deductions from federal employee salaries.

Not 100% true. Employees put in 3% of their pay and the federal govt is supposed to put in an amount equal to 27% into the fund.

The payout on the backside really isn't that much. 20 years as a law enforcement officer gets you 34% of an average of your high three. Non-law enforcement get 1% for every year of service. Even after 30 years you are only getting 30%.

Lifetime medical equals being able to buy into the fed program for the same amount as when you were working until you become Medicare eligible then you are on that plan.

36 posted on 06/14/2010 7:17:09 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ODC-GIRL

And pay cuts, benefits reductions, and furloughs....


37 posted on 06/14/2010 7:17:31 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Nachum

hold government responsable....


38 posted on 06/14/2010 7:17:50 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ODC-GIRL
Find a way to separate military federal employees from the blood-suckers, I’m all for freezes on raises and bonuses!

Amen to that, I'm grateful that I got my 1 1/2 percent per year under Nixon and Jimah!

39 posted on 06/14/2010 7:17:53 PM PDT by PROCON (Proudly Served U.S. Army 6/69-1/72 & 12/75-1/82)
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To: USNBandit

Not quite sure what retirement system you are under.


40 posted on 06/14/2010 7:19:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

That is FERS.


41 posted on 06/14/2010 7:20:12 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ODC-GIRL

Plenty of “non-military” federal employees deserve their bonuses and benefits. For example, although I was not a DOD civilian, I spent most of last year in Afghanistan.


42 posted on 06/14/2010 7:21:56 PM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Rio
An average $200 bonus isn't all that big ~ anywhere ~ but federal employees consider such things "found money".

It's good to get, but they didn't plan on it.

43 posted on 06/14/2010 7:22:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: All

I want a “block” feature on FR. : (


44 posted on 06/14/2010 7:24:25 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: PROCON
I recommend that recipients of these bonuses use this taxpayer-funded windfall to max out their unemployment and life insurance policies.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

45 posted on 06/14/2010 7:28:02 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: PROCON

Fire all the bas*ar*s! From the President on down. Then we can start over again.


46 posted on 06/14/2010 7:28:08 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: K-oneTexas; muawiyah
(and most government jobs involve working on projects stretching over decades, so you can't just replace them at the drop of a hat).

The private sector seems to be able to do this without undue difficulty.

Senior people leave all the time for better pay. The companies have to either promote a junior person to take on the project or hire someone.

Government jobs attract lifers; people who want the security, stability and retirement benefits of a government job.

The government does not need bonuses to keep its people.

47 posted on 06/14/2010 7:29:39 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Poundstone

“$400 million is a tiny amount. Federal employees’ award amounts are a much smaller percentage of their benefit outlays than anything you find in the private sector.”

The basta*ds don’t deserve any bonus do they? They deserve 30% pay cuts and 50% benefit cuts...but you understand that don’t you?

This rotten government has to go!


48 posted on 06/14/2010 7:31:51 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: USNBandit
FERS had a "displacement" when it was set up. The FERS system is actually designed to pay out exactly what CSRS would pay out, but it has the extra "thrift savings" matching plan. What you are doing there is front loading your retirement by putting a certain amount into an investment trust, which is matched to a degree by the government.

You can put in more, but that's the same as the old CSRS system folks get to do as well ~ but they don't get matching funds.

The result is you pay just as much for your retirement as CSRS folks did (and still do), but part of it is in an investment trust which you can manipulate to a certain degree, or BORROW FROM.

Supposedly funds are transferred out of the agency operating budget to OPM to be placed in US bonds to cover the other half of your retirement.

When you take a good look at the federal payout to CSRS retirees you quickly find that nearly 100% of the payout is coming from ONLY the funds paid in by the employees. It'll be the same with FERS. Part of the trick is that over the long run putting federal retirement money into federal bonds is fairly advantageous.

BTW, the FERS folks also pay into Social Security. Presumably they will receive Social Security in the future ~ which is highly doubtful. An argument can be made that as a consequence FERS retirement is far more costly and pays less than the old CSRS system.

Way back when I wrote an elaborate program to estimate the difference between staying in CSRS or transferring to FERS. Turned out that at my age and years of service the only way I could lose would be for the rate of inflation to rise to untold heights thus accentuating the COLA differential ~ FERS was initially set up at 1/2 CSRS COLA, then adjusted to 1% less, and now is the same.

Remarkably few CSRS covered people transferred to FERS.

I transferred.

49 posted on 06/14/2010 7:32:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Poundstone; All
Well, I retired from the federal government last month and am now working for a large multinational corporation. My federal pension is a nice income supplement, I will admit.

Unless that's a military pension, you're a parasite.

And if I have anything to do with it, you'll be destitute within a year, and I'm hoping you'll have to sell your organs to repay the Americans you've sucked dry for these many years.

But that's just me. Some other people are *really* pissed off.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

50 posted on 06/14/2010 7:33:40 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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