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Government under pressure to open US skies to unmanned drones despite safety concerns
http://www.foxnews.com/ ^ | Published June 14, 2010

Posted on 06/14/2010 6:41:30 PM PDT by Lucky9teen

WASHINGTON (AP) — Unmanned aircraft have proved their usefulness and reliability in the war zones of Afghanistan and Iraq. Now the pressure's on to allow them in the skies over the United States.

The Federal Aviation Administration has been asked to issue flying rights for a range of pilotless planes to carry out civilian and law-enforcement functions but has been hesitant to act. Officials are worried that they might plow into airliners, cargo planes and corporate jets that zoom around at high altitudes, or helicopters and hot air balloons that fly as low as a few hundred feet off the ground.

On top of that, these pilotless aircraft come in a variety of sizes. Some are as big as a small airliner, others the size of a backpack. The tiniest are small enough to fly through a house window.

The obvious risks have not deterred the civilian demand for pilotless planes. Tornado researchers want to send them into storms to gather data. Energy companies want to use them to monitor pipelines. State police hope to send them up to capture images of speeding cars' license plates. Local police envision using them to track fleeing suspects.

Like many robots, the planes have advantages over humans for jobs that are dirty, dangerous or dull. And the planes often cost less than piloted aircraft and can stay aloft far longer.

"There is a tremendous pressure and need to fly unmanned aircraft in (civilian) airspace," Hank Krakowski, FAA's head of air traffic operations, told European aviation officials recently. "We are having constant conversations and discussions, particularly with the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security, to figure out how we can do this safely with all these different sizes of vehicles.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: associatedpress; crime; domesticdrones; drones; dronesfaa; dronesus; government; safety
Check out this article from foxnews.com. It's about how the defense dept. and homeland security have been asking the FAA to use drones in the continental US since 2006 (meaning it's not just an Obama thing...the Reps and Dems share the same general goals). We all know that drones have only two purposes...spying and killing...that's it.This is some scary, bad news that the mainstream media is just putting out there like it's okay and the only real issue is safety since the drones might get in the way of commercial aviation. BS!!! That's not the darn issue! Drones are military hardware and the feds want to use them on us. Something is terribly wrong.
1 posted on 06/14/2010 6:41:30 PM PDT by Lucky9teen
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To: Lucky9teen

Government under pressure?


2 posted on 06/14/2010 6:43:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Law enforcement I might see. But no civilian agency needs to fly drones anywhere. The civilian companies that make them can test fly them on a military reservation.


3 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:53 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Lucky9teen

Unmanned drones = the new version of “black helicopters”?


4 posted on 06/14/2010 6:48:19 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: Lucky9teen

They should be used on the border —they’re perfect.

Instead, they’ll be used for revenue raising; catching speeders. They have a new technology called “The Gordion Stare” —what Medusa used to turn men into stone who saw her ugly face.

It means camera multiplexing to watch dozens of locations simultaneously using just one camera. The need first arose because prior to a JDAM striking a target observers could not keep track of “squirters” —people who scatter in all directions from a target.

They’ll use it to track many (law abiding) vehicles simultaneously.


5 posted on 06/14/2010 6:48:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Lucky9teen
Pipeline patrol, crop survey, aerial mapping, water management, wildlife survey, air quality, traffic control, disaster survey, disaster communications, fisheries patrol, counting terrorists at tea parties....and I'm just getting started.

But after 35 years as an ATC, I can't say I'm in favor of them, even though I have worked Global Hawk in civil airspace over Florida.

6 posted on 06/14/2010 6:50:54 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: K-oneTexas

Alien captured on CCTV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npM-tWbyyiI&feature=PlayList&p=6AA702311A25511E&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1

An Englishman’s adventure.


7 posted on 06/14/2010 6:51:24 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Lucky9teen

That would mean more illegals captured and the administration would rather let in more criminals.


8 posted on 06/14/2010 6:53:25 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: K-oneTexas
I can see a use for small, very low-flying drones for monitoring pipelines, etc.

And there is a good use for armed drones on our borders.

But the best use would be to have them programmed to fly along the length of the heavily-used invasion/smuggling routes, making videos of hosing the perps with minigun fire, and sending the videos to Mexican TV stations...

Maybe, after enough of those videos, the scum would finally get the message that our border is closed to them.

9 posted on 06/14/2010 6:58:03 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: gaijin

The borders being a war zone now, it’s appropriate.


10 posted on 06/14/2010 6:58:38 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: Lucky9teen

Shoot them down!


11 posted on 06/14/2010 6:59:08 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: Lucky9teen

Flying drones on our border does not threaten our liberty. Socialists, Islamists and a new proletariat getting in does.


12 posted on 06/14/2010 7:00:14 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: rmlew
Flying drones on our border does not threaten our liberty.

No, but flying them over civilian population does. They're either used for spying or killing and I'm not in favor of either function.

13 posted on 06/14/2010 7:01:51 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: TXnMA

I see yours basically as what I said ... law enforcement uses. Military uses are undeniable.

No private company should be allowed to have such surveillance over anything .. other than inside theirown buildings. No drones for that, CCTV.


14 posted on 06/14/2010 7:02:00 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: meyer
I suppose you don't like police either.

How would you protect our borders and ensure that no one is bringing in nukes by ship?

15 posted on 06/14/2010 7:03:47 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: Lucky9teen

And the libs were complaining about overseas phone calls and Pres. Bush.


16 posted on 06/14/2010 7:28:04 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Lucky9teen

I am sure the FAA is concerned also about how these things will integrate with VFR traffic. Will their use force ending VFR flights?


17 posted on 06/14/2010 8:09:41 PM PDT by biff
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To: K-oneTexas

“But no civilian agency needs to fly drones anywhere.”

Drones are the best platform available to conduct repetitive tasks such as:

Searching for illegals along the border

Weather research

Drug interdiction

Routine mapping exercises

Etc.

No risk to crew, record the info on a ground based system and monitor the most important stuff in real time.

This makes eminent sense, or for Sonia Sotomayor, imminent sense.


18 posted on 06/14/2010 8:22:23 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Rembrandt
“But no civilian agency needs to fly drones anywhere.” Drones are the best platform available to conduct repetitive tasks such as: Searching for illegals along the border Weather research Drug interdiction Routine mapping exercises Etc. No risk to crew, record the info on a ground based system and monitor the most important stuff in real time. This makes eminent sense, or for Sonia Sotomayor, imminent sense.

Of these examples what can't normal human piloted fixed or rotary winged aircraft perform?

19 posted on 06/14/2010 8:52:52 PM PDT by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: Lucky9teen

From Revelation 13:4 (New International Version)
“Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?”


20 posted on 06/14/2010 10:24:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Rembrandt

Civilian agencies are private companies they are not fighting crime. That job rightfully belongs in the Law Enforcement community. LEO’s are the ones who need the drones, not any private company.

US Geologic Service might use them for mapping but not John Q. Public, Surveyor.


21 posted on 06/15/2010 5:31:12 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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