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Mitch Daniels Reveals an Inconvenient Truth about the Right
American Thinker ^ | 06/14/2010 | John Guardiano

Posted on 06/15/2010 6:33:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels has disappointed many social and cultural conservatives with his call for a "truce on the so-called [sic] social issues. We're going to just have to agree to get along for a little while," until the economic issues are resolved, Daniels told the Weekly Standard's Andrew Ferguson.

But as the American Spectator's Joseph Lawler has observed, it's doubtful that Daniels' truce would change anything. After all, Lawler rightly asks:

"What typical Republican policies would he [Daniels] have to suspend and they [social and cultural conservatives] have to sacrifice? It's not clear to me that it would be anything more than simply the usual social conservative rhetoric..."

Lawler doesn't think this is a problem. I do.

That's because, unlike Lawler apparently, I am not willing to join a conservative movement that has retreated from the culture wars and surrendered to the left in key cultural battles like so-called gay rights, "affirmative action," "diversity," speech codes, and "multiculturalism."

Sure, like Lawler I have a modern-day sensibility. I am happily single and live and work in an affluent and diverse urban village in the Washington, D.C. area. I have friends and colleagues who happen to be black, gay, Hispanic, and Asian; and I really don't think anything of it.

In short, although culturally conservative, I am, I believe, thoroughly modern and socially progressive.

Nonetheless, I believe in cultural and educational standards, the rights of religious believers, and equal rights, not special rights. Consequently, I am adamantly opposed to "affirmative action" (read: reverse discrimination) and to so-called gay rights.

"Affirmative action" and "gay rights" are unjust in my view because they give special rights and privileges to people based on their race and sexual status, and innocent Americans get wronged -- that is, discriminated against -- as a result.

Unfortunately, Lawler is right about one thing: Daniels' "truce" in the culture wars is more a recognition of reality than a call for action. The right, after all, long ago abandoned the cultural playing field to the left. Thus, conservatives seldom even give lip service anymore to cultural issues like "affirmative action" and "gay rights."

In fact, many conservatives -- especially younger, Gen Y conservatives -- go out of their way to flaunt their liberal credentials on these and other cultural issues so as to gain street cred and social acceptance. The Tea Party movement, moreover, seems to view cultural issues as political baggage that best be discarded.

This is one big reason -- the other is defense and foreign policy issues, where Daniels again inadvertently revealed an inconvenient truth about the right -- that I am not particularly enamored of the modern-day conservative movement: for too many on the right, politics begins and ends with economics; and cultural conservatives and defense hawks need not apply.

So don't be angry with Mitch Daniels He simply said aloud what's become increasingly apparent for some time, which is: on some of the most important cultural and military issues of our time, the right has lost its way and has ceased even to be conservative.

John R. Guardiano is a writer and analyst in Arlington, Virginia. You can follow him on Twitter: @JohnRGuardiano


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1 posted on 06/15/2010 6:33:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“We’re going to just have to agree to get along for a little while,” until the economic issues are resolved.”

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Utter nonsense.

Committed conservatives should be fully capable of conducting a two front war with the Communists.


2 posted on 06/15/2010 6:37:26 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

We have won the major battle, which is the gun war.

The 2nd amendment reigns supreme and nobody can take away my right to bear arms.

Winning that battle has been by far the biggest victory in the culture war.

We don’t need a truce per say, we simply need to re-focus on the econommic takeover which Obama and his minions are plotting over the rest of his term.


3 posted on 06/15/2010 6:37:49 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: SeekAndFind
Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels has disappointed many social and cultural conservatives with his call for a "truce on the so-called [sic] social issues. We're going to just have to agree to get along for a little while,"

Um, it's the socialist/social activists who are pushing an agenda. We are trying to "hold the line" on the right.

Condemning those who say "don't change the military, marriage laws, adoption laws, etc..." aren't pushing for changes. Telling us to surrender on these issues "for now" means forever giving up these issues to the Left.

4 posted on 06/15/2010 6:38:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Gee Mitch. You're right.

Reagan would have never increased our military strength, fought for social issues, and championed free enterprise at the same time.......and for those who think Mitch is right....../sarcasm......

5 posted on 06/15/2010 6:40:55 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: SeekAndFind
I am not willing to join a conservative movement that has retreated from the culture wars

The right doesn't even have a complete team on the field. The political/legal realm is but one facet of the game. Call it defense.

But where is the offense? What is the offensive squad in the culture war? In my view, it's....culture! TV, movies, music, art, literature. The right has virtually no presense at all in these areas.

This is why "many conservatives -- especially younger, Gen Y conservatives -- go out of their way to flaunt their liberal credentials on these and other cultural issues so as to gain street cred and social acceptance. " Why is cultural liberalism necessary to gain "street cred and social acceptance?"

It is because the popular culture--our art, our music, our dramas, our stories--are what shape the cultural thinking of individuals. So where are the conservative film makers--or film studios? Where are the conservative media conglomerates? Where is the corporation that specializes in music and films that glorify and promote conservative values?

Instead of trying to buy the St Louis Rams, why isn't the enormously wealthy Rush Limbaugh, or other monied conservatives, creating such institutions?

In the culture war, conservative is like a soccor team with one player--a goalie. The best you can achieve is a tie, and that will seldom be the case.

6 posted on 06/15/2010 6:43:11 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“We’re going to just have to agree to get along for a little while,” until the economic issues are resolved.”

The “economic issues” have been caused by caving in to the socialistic nonsense...and now we are to capitulate more...tell the lie-berals to quit, I’m sure they will comply!!!


7 posted on 06/15/2010 6:43:47 AM PDT by PORD (People...Of Right Do!)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can you tighten the purse strings when “you” are unwilling to have more personal accountablity and responsibility?

An expanded social safety net means you’ll never be able to control spending.

Things like the global warming scare and illegal immigration are economic issues.


8 posted on 06/15/2010 6:44:03 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As Mitch jettisons any aspirations for higher office.


9 posted on 06/15/2010 6:45:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like he’s stumping for the RINO title.


10 posted on 06/15/2010 6:45:44 AM PDT by rintense (God bless Israel!)
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To: a fool in paradise

We need to first deal with immediate economic threats this communist regime poses. Yes oppose gay marriage and dadt repeal.

However the disasters of cap and trade, obamacare, etc are of much more immediate concern imho.


11 posted on 06/15/2010 6:46:14 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: SeekAndFind
"We're going to just have to agree to get along for a little while,"

No we don't! You are suggesting we acquiesce to your cowardliness and PC crap. You could always come on over and join us. You are more than welcome, otherwise ES&D

12 posted on 06/15/2010 6:46:20 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: SeekAndFind

Go along to get along? This is why we’re in trouble now!


13 posted on 06/15/2010 6:47:43 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: MadIsh32
And we are winning the abortion war, and how does "gay marriage" help the Democrats?

BTW, McCain didn't lose on social issues. He lost because Republicans were seen as big spenders.

Maybe Republicans should start being socially conservative AND fiscally conservative.

14 posted on 06/15/2010 6:49:29 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
However the disasters of cap and trade, obamacare, etc are of much more immediate concern imho

I believe that is Daniels' point.

He has said his first priority is reforming entitlements. Good for him. This alone will take care of a while host of "social issues".

Also, he has called the enviros "zealots" and out to devastate the economy. I like his thinking.

15 posted on 06/15/2010 6:50:35 AM PDT by what's up
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To: ScottinVA

It wasn’t clear to me from the Weekly Standard piece that he wants to run anyway. But I think that all of the attacks on him for this “truce” thing are misreading what he said. He said truce, not surrender. A truce is a two-way street. Now maybe some folks would like him to stay on the offensive, and that’s fine, but let’s not act like he said he wants to roll over and let the left have its way on social issues.


16 posted on 06/15/2010 6:54:20 AM PDT by kalt
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To: MadIsh32
We have not won the gun war until I can buy a pistol by mail-order and carry it concealed on public and "public accommodation" property without government permission.

Like my grandfather could, back when this was a free country.

nobody can take away my right to bear arms

They don't have to. Just deny their permission when you apply for it.

There are more battles ahead on this issue.

17 posted on 06/15/2010 6:54:53 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Palin/Undecided 2012...make that Palin/Whoever She Picks...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Abortion: Economic suicide.


18 posted on 06/15/2010 6:55:36 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: kalt
Sorry, if you haven't learned this already, a "truce" never means a two way street from the left.

It's just naive prattling, sort of like McCain's "reach across the aisle" crap.

19 posted on 06/15/2010 6:56:45 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: EyeGuy

The “social issues” are all bound up inextricably with the economic issues. The “social issues” come down to spending money by government, that would have been covered by individual acts of charity and by relying on the individual’s own initiative. And the money spent there, directly impacts economic issues.

You cannot have both guns and butter, nor eat your cake and still have it in reserve for future pleasure.

Mortgaging our future to secure these “social issues” is no way to bring the economic problems under control.


20 posted on 06/15/2010 6:58:08 AM PDT by alloysteel ("If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.")
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To: what's up

Mitch Daniels has grown Indiana state bureaucracies by raising taxes,(for the children).


21 posted on 06/15/2010 7:00:14 AM PDT by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: what's up

What good is fighting over gay marriage and affirmative action while our economic livlihoods are being destroyed.


22 posted on 06/15/2010 7:02:53 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: EyeGuy

We can get along fine as long as they don’t try to stop us from undoing the damage they’ve done.


23 posted on 06/15/2010 7:11:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: muddler
What about the lowered property taxes?

I hear he's against all the bloated school construction projects (for the children).

24 posted on 06/15/2010 7:18:09 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Tribune7

Because most social conservatives ARE NOT fiscal conservatives

See George W


25 posted on 06/15/2010 7:23:05 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: DManA

“We can get along fine as long as they don’t try to stop us from undoing the damage they’ve done.”

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And we’ll need to go back AT LEAST to the mid-sixties, with the kick-off of the disastrous, trillion dollar racist theft known as the “War on Poverty”, with a significant stop at 1973’s Roe-Wade disaster.


26 posted on 06/15/2010 7:23:05 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: SeekAndFind
Bye Mitch. Social Issues vs. Fiscal Issues (Schlafly)
27 posted on 06/15/2010 7:26:49 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Tea Party movement, moreover, seems to view cultural issues as political baggage that best be discarded.

Not so, pure baloney.

And an interesting angle that he (and many) miss is that much of the left's social agenda would take a serious hit if we rein in the government and government's spending/entitlements/power.

Shrinking government *is* a vital part of the conservative social agenda. Economics and culture are linked. Apparently a lot of pundits can only think one dimensionally. Which says little for their reasoning capabilities.

28 posted on 06/15/2010 7:37:16 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Daniels is a nanny stater and is soft in illegals. Financial issues cannot be solved unless the illegal situation is ended.


29 posted on 06/15/2010 7:40:03 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

Too bad really. I was kinda hoping Mitch Daniels would be presidential material.

Well, back to the drawing board... next candidate please ( if there’s anyone acceptable ).


30 posted on 06/15/2010 7:48:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: MadIsh32
Because most social conservatives ARE NOT fiscal conservatives

Oh, like Tom Coburn, Jim DeMint and Sarah Palin?

LOLOLOL. You got it absolutely backwards. See Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Bloomberg, Crist, Schwarznegger etc.

In fact, name me one pol who claims to be fiscal conservative/social liberal that doesn't cave in to the fiscal libs when it's time for a vote.

Tom Ridge might have been one but they are few and far between.

31 posted on 06/15/2010 7:50:44 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: kalt; Dr. Sivana

A “truce” on social issues will do for social issues what the Ron Paul love slaves would do for our foreign and military policy. I had thought that Mitch Daniels might make an interesting dark horse. I was wrong. He would be a disaster. The economic issues are merely a matter of money. How much is spent is dependent on the most recent elections. There is never a permanent solution to money issues. OTOH, each baby slaughtered is a baby permanently slaughtered. Each breach in the societal policy on marriage is likely to be permanent. Social issues do not call for pacifism any more than military situations do. Smash Ahmadinijad and smash the domestic social revolutionaries. “Truce” is surrender.


32 posted on 06/15/2010 8:04:53 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The delusion of “fiscal conservatives” being actual conservatives is rising here. Please do the honors.


33 posted on 06/15/2010 8:10:58 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Lakeshark

You do know the identity of President Reagan’s Chief Political Advisor, right?


34 posted on 06/15/2010 8:20:13 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: SeekAndFind

Daniels has a point but doesn’t express it very well - somehow, we need to make the New Right Coalition work again.


35 posted on 06/15/2010 8:58:15 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: GlockThe Vote
What good is fighting over gay marriage and affirmative action while our economic livlihoods are being destroyed.

What good is beating back socialism if we destroy what marriage and the nuclear family are and kids continue to be harmed, dysfunctional and more prone to be wards of the state?

No Republican can win the Presidential nomination without a commitment to fighting for the right to life of the unborn and protecting what marriage is. Get to used it.

36 posted on 06/15/2010 9:25:24 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: SeekAndFind

When good compromises with evil, only evil can profit.


37 posted on 06/15/2010 9:29:06 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
However the disasters of cap and trade, obamacare, etc are of much more immediate concern imho.

It's straw man argument. Obama has been pushing his a pro-abortion and pro-homosexual agenda while pushing Obamacare, spending trillions, taking over car companies and, now, pushing for cap and tax.

There is no reason why a Republican President can't implement a pro-life, pro-marriage and socially conservative agenda while tackling the economic problem. Claiming one can't do otherwise is an intentional slap in the face of social conservatives. And, it just cost Daniels any chance he has to win the GOP nomination.

38 posted on 06/15/2010 9:33:56 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Chi-townChief
Daniels has a point but doesn’t express it very well

What point is that? The whole comment is an absurd straw man. A President can focus on the economy while at the same time tackling social issues. Obama has done so, albeit in a socialist way.

Daniels made a boneheaded political calculation to slap social conservatives in the face.

39 posted on 06/15/2010 9:39:05 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: BlackElk

I’ve never been particularly impressed by Daniels. He’s too wonky. I’ve argued you can’t ignore any of the legs of Conservatism. Focus exclusively on the social end and the economy can suffer, focus on the economy exclusively and the soul suffers. A little effort and you can cover both, but ignoring one or the other and your Conservative credentials become suspect.


40 posted on 06/15/2010 9:57:31 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Daniels is the perfect audio-visual aid for “The Peter Principle”.
Governor of Indiana - - that’s the end of the line for Daniels. Weakness and cowardice eventually surfaces.


41 posted on 06/15/2010 10:08:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I’ve argued you can’t ignore any of the legs of Conservatism. Focus exclusively on the social end and the economy can suffer, focus on the economy exclusively and the soul suffers. A little effort and you can cover both, but ignoring one or the other and your Conservative credentials become suspect.

That's well stated. "Cultural" issues are indelibly intertwined with "economic" issues. You can't just separate them and take the coward's way out by focusing solely on the easy stuff ("the economy, stupid") the way Daniels wants to do.

42 posted on 06/15/2010 10:14:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ol' Sparky

So how can you be an economic conservtaive without being a social conservative??? It goes hand in hand.


43 posted on 06/15/2010 10:32:06 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: GlockThe Vote

How long will economic livelihood stand while the moral and cultural foundations of our civilization are rotting away? We must fight on *all* fronts.


44 posted on 06/15/2010 12:17:31 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mitch Daniels is still denying one of Indiana’s Congressional districts representation in the House....


45 posted on 06/15/2010 12:19:06 PM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: aloishammer

Then the culture war is a joke.


48 posted on 06/15/2010 1:59:57 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope Daniels is slapped around by true conservatives over this until he cries like a girl.


50 posted on 06/15/2010 2:27:24 PM PDT by fwdude
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