Skip to comments.BP Covers up it's missteps (sorry for the source)
Posted on 06/15/2010 7:23:27 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
Please ignore his opinions. The guest begins talking at about the 2 minute mark.
Sadly, this comports with much of the stories we are hearing about information suppression.
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It's quite the pisser that left and right will have to unite (at least for a moment) over such a tragedy.
I don't get this concept of "information suppression" Do the Leftist clown posse of hysteric propagandists lead by Overtliar here think people HAVE to tell them everything they want to know?
Same here. I detest what BP ushered in here, but destroying it isn’t going to help anyone.
Watching Obama use this situation to his own ends tonight is going to be painful.
Odd how Overliar and the rest of the Leftist clown posse have no problem when their fellow stooges in the Obama regime “Suppress information”.
Unite with Waxman to do what? Use this accident (or malfeasance, or coverup or whatever) to takeover the oil industry?
WTF are you talking about?
Should we have abolished elections for the presidency because we elected a crook in Nixon?
Plug the hole. Prosecute the lawbreakers and hold the government accountable for oversight that was not done.
Join the 5th column in order to punish the concept of private corporations? NFW!!!!!
Don’t misunderstand me; I don’t mean that a bit.
What I mean is this: Multiple sources (both left and right) are noting that things are not quite as they seem; we are all being lied to, evidently.
We’re all being told lies about the size of the problem, the pressure, the solutions, and the damage being caused. A FReeper earlier posted some absolutely stunning pics of the real problem in the Gulf.
Trust me, I’m no Marxist, and certainly no fan of KO. I ran across the interview with this lady by accident.
That said: Both sides should DEMAND honesty from both BP and the Obama Administration.
Because, as far as I can tell, they think they can fool all of us.
I can be angry at BP without being irrational.
The glee on FR that this was going to be his Katrina waned quickly. Like a child squealing in glee that he'd caught the tiger's tail!
When are we going to learn? Perhaps by Obama's third inaugural address we'll all "get it."
I want to know the well head pressure on this well. People are saying that the pressure was from 20,000 to 70,000 psi. People are saying that all of the safety measures known to control this well were destroyed by taht pressure.
What about the benzene? This has not been filtered out like it usually is.
What is the parts per billion of benzene in the air in the gulf? are the workers at risk? Are the people at risk?
What is the true amount coming out each day?
What other harmful pollutants are going to come on shore in the form of solids, liquids or evaporates?
Which I think is the exact thing that is called for here.
BP deserves to be held accountable, monetarily and criminally. And while were talking about penalties, the oversight agency of the federal/state governments should bear some of the blame for this.
As I understand it, BP actually received commendations for this specific oil platform operation.
Good call on your part.
“Information suppression” is the tool of tyrannies.
If it is happening here, we need to condemn it - and destroy any and all attempts to enforce this. Period!
Meanwhile, 24% STRONGLY APPROVE of Obama’s job. And roughly 50% Approve of what he’s doing.
that will get a bump up tonight.
It’s pretty much the same report that NBC and CBS had last night on their evening news shows. And it should no come as a great surprise for anyone who has followed BP since their arrival in America.
Their SOP has been to cut corners, go cheap and take great risks with the lives of their employees. Their arrogance knows no bounds.
While you’re correct that the Constitution does not require them to report anything, evidently our founders thought it important enough that they have the freedom to do so.
They have NOT used this Constitutional “carve-out” well.
But this is one of those times that it is useful. Is the gov’t deliberately hiding the damage from this, in order to protect the Obama administration or BP (which is in bed with the Obama people, from stem to stern)?
Btw, it is not only “left leaning” people who want to know what is going on, and why they aren’t allowed to find out. There are right leaning operations asking the same questions. Evidently chemicals are being released into the air from this drill that are X 1000 of the safe numbers. Those numbers aren’t from Chris Matthews. They are from pretty right wing Christians who are mortified; as they are percentages that kill people and unborn children. And the test numbers are from a week ago, and measured by the EPA.
And on this, YES....they HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW.
This is their way of life, their way to make a living and provide for their families. For the young and the old, and those with health issues, it may end up being a matter of life and death.
I think he has taken a big hit, but he is still going to use this to his own ends. It fits into his game plan. So the hit is absorbed, and he solidifies his grip at the same time.
When will we learn? Look, we’ve still got folks who can’t fathom why we shouldn’t back John McCain for re-election, so frankly I have no idea when we’ll learn.
Instead of uniting behind solid people, we spend our time bickering and calling each other names.
You have misread my remarks, perhaps you’ll go back and read.
THEY CAN’T PLUG THE HOLE.
Not today, not tomorrow, not two weeks from now. You’ll see.
If BP can't do it, then the government should.
If nobody can plug it then the government shouldn't have signed off on the process and even gave them a safety award. If the bureaucrats signed off on it, then they are ultimately responsible.
I WILL NOT join with leftists in destroying the oil industry.
It is only going to get worse, and they have no idea how to stop it, now that the casing has been cracked and there are multiple sources of oil leakage from the surrounding area. Plugging the pipe is no longer enough.
Oh God. You're one of those parts-per-billion freaks. Never mind. You're already lost to reason.
I’m not sure the whole can’t plug the hole this isn’t nothing but speculation as it is. If it were, I don’t know what the point of uniting with the left would be anyway.
Frankly it sounds like a good story to force the evacuation of the gulf coast for however long the government deems necessary.
Those all seem like good questions. It would be a good thing for folks to know huh.
I agree. I have advocated some people go to prison over this. The deaths and the damage require some high level of accountability here.
THEY CANT PLUG THE HOLE.
Not today, not tomorrow, not two weeks from now. Youll see.
Agree that it will take up to sometime in Aug/Sep time frame to plug the hole. Until then we don’t know for sure if it can be done or not. For the sake of all concerned I hope it successful.
Frank, you couldn’t be more right. Of course, they are trying to shield Obama.
Sam...Let me rephrase this: This hole cannot be plugged. Neither by BP or the US Gov’t. Perhaps it can be managed somehow, but plugged is out of the question. Roll around a bit on the internet, viewing some science sites. It won’t take long for you to find out why. And no, I’m not some ppm lunatic or any such thing. But there are plenty of people who are already getting pretty sick over the fumes. In your aforementioned internet investigations, you’ll find out what they are getting sick from. It makes perfect sense that BP would forbid masks of any kind for the workers on site. That would expose them to even more liability. And I’m not an enemy of BP; our posture should be to keep them in business, so they can make things whole. Nothing would be worse than crushing them to the wall, IMO.
The Progressive Fascist machine routinely uses this sort of scare propaganda to get people all freaked out and upset.
IF the “information is being suppressed” how do these paid activists for various “environmental groups” “know” these “facts”?
Simple, they make it up as they go along knowing tens of thousands of gullible people will simply take their baseless, unconfirmed accusations as “Fact”.
Hitler and his ilk created this propaganda tactics. It called the “Big Lie”. The practisioners of this tactics simply scream the lie over and over until enough people hear the lie that it becomes accepted as “fact” by most people
I had forgotten that. Excellent point.
With all due respect, I gently suggest that it is you that is naive, and not me.
The only group on this planet that have anything to gain from minimizing this are the Obots. And lord knows, they have tried.
BP can always flip them off and file for bankruptcy.
It is Obama and his ilk, who have tried to make this seem like no big deal. They want to pretend that we don’t know that HIS people gave them the permission to drill so deep, while fighting off the safety regulations.Obama’s people are up to their everloving eyeballs in BP “favors.”
The only reason this little weasel has been forced to act like he cares about this is because he’s been shamed into doing so...by the left and the right.
And even still, he ignores the laws on the books .... this is HIS job. It is not BP’s job to clean this up. IT IS HIS JOB. The media ignores this fact, but a fact it is.
Read post 33 this thread
Some people are ignorant, some are stupid. The result is the same, bad information.
and let me repeat this:
THE GUSHER CANNOT BE PLUGGED.
Not by BP, nor by Obama, nor by Michelle’s oversized ass, nor by even Barney Frank.
It cannot be plugged.
The best we can hope for is that they figure out a way to manage it, somehow. And I’m not even overly hopeful about that.
I read it, and I stand by my words. You and I will have to agree to disagee, I’m afraid. No hard feeling on my end, hopefully none on yours.
While I agree and believe that there are times these people use propaganda for their own purposes, I also believe that “there are times these people use propaganda for their own purposes!”
We may be talking past each other, without understanding that we are in agreement.
If your point is, that Obama and his minions are going to try to use this for his own shit, I AGREE.
My point is, he doesn’t want the American people to know how completely bad it is, because the arrow goes to him.
I think this man is completely cynical, and trying to take us along:
“Yes, it’s kinda bad, but we’ll solve this with this whiz bang dandy cap & trade bill. Pay no attention to the reporters who are telling you it’s a tragedy. It’s bad, but we’ll get it under contol.”
I don’t want to make excuses for BP, but when the POS POTUS starts off with a “shoot first and ask questions later” posture, how do you expect them to act?
Ok. Unite with Waxman? And olbermann? and Obama?
Unite on WHAT? And DO WHAT? Be specific.
You seem to have the revelations. SO .... share!
Either your naive and ignorant or your are willingly part of the smear machine. I choose to give you the benefit of the doubt.
The redical enviromentalists of the world thank you for your work here.
That’s lovely of you.
With all due respect, I’ll kindly decline your pity.
And wait for the facts.
I’m not a redical or even a “radical” evironmentalist. In fact, I’m a drill, baby, drill.
That said, we have to drill responsibly. BP has not done that, with a big helping hand from the Obama administration. Who acts “green” in their fundraising letters but is pretty “dirty” in their practices.
This would have never happened under Palin, btw. A quick read of her history would tell you this. The oil companies hated SP.
What is not being discussed here, or anywhere else, is this:
Go to your local hardware or garden store and purchase ANY preventive pest remedy. All will list some form of OIL as one of the first ingredients. Why does this matter? It means that the oil in the gulf will coat the eggs spawning there (fish, shrimp, birds, mammals, etc). Those eggs will die, as oil coating prevents oil from hatching. Anyone with a scientific background knows this. Some of the species spawning in the gulf this time of year, live elsewhere in adulthood. There are truly no words to describe how bad this is for the fishermen, etc. in the Gulf. I sure hope someone has put together some sort of Noah’s Ark type thing. Yes, folks, it’s that bad. And I’m conservative. The first two votes I ever cast in my life were for Ronald Reagan.
It is astonishing to me how many smart people inhabit FreeRepublic and yet....when science comes up, are willing to throw all their sense out the window, in favor of politics.
Dont' be so hard on yourself. A little better education, and not going envio-commie nutzo ignorantly would help you out a bunch, though!
Be well, good luck in your pursuit of a proper education!
Last night I saw someone say the well was drilled into the New Madrid fault. I thought about pointing out some problems with that theory but said screw it and went to bed.
Its the same kind of thinking that led someone to suggest that Michigan is way overdue for a super earthquake because we haven’t had one for a very long time. *sigh*
If you read the internet enough, as you and I do, you’ll see all manner of stupidity. Ugh.
Thank you for your kind thoughts and regards.
I’m not worried about my education nor my “envio*-commie nutzo” ingorance.
* Did you mean “enviro” instead of “envio?”
* Is “nutzo” a word that comes from your little third world island?
Doesn’t sound like the queen’s English to me. Perhaps refresher courses would improve your skills.
Great to see you getting flustered, and have to attack the typing, because you completely lack substance.
Thied world island? LMAO, must be where you come from if you’ve never seen ‘nutzo’ used.
Like I said, i wish you well in yur endeavor to climb out of the bottom half. I know, it’s a long haul. Don’t worry, toots, you have lots of company down there. Good luck.
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