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Violence prompts strong warning at Ariz. monument
hosted ^ | Jun 15 | JACQUES BILLEAUD

Posted on 06/15/2010 4:41:42 PM PDT by JoeProBono

PHOENIX (AP) -- An increase in smuggling violence at the Sonoran Desert National Monument about 80 miles south of Phoenix has prompted a stronger warning to visitors about drug and immigrant traffickers passing through the public lands, officials said Tuesday.

The monument and three other federal lands in Arizona already have signs warning visitors that they may encounter smugglers. But 11 new signs have recently been erected...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; danger; drugs; illegalaliens; smugglers; violence

1 posted on 06/15/2010 4:41:42 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Strong warnings are soooo much more effective than a military force.


3 posted on 06/15/2010 4:44:46 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

4 posted on 06/15/2010 4:48:23 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

I am working in Tucson AZ right now and 80 miles south of Phoenix means 20 miles west of Tucson

This place is beautiful- but some places are a mess with this immigrations stuff

The problem is NOT that we have immigration laws, our laws are the same as Mexico. the problem is the sudden enforcement of that law.

MEXICO ENCOURAGED illegal ‘migration’ and Arizona was forced to start enforcing the law itself after 40 years of the US government letting it slide.

Now you have good people here who have homes and lives for 20 years suddenly having to face a law they came to expect would never be enforced. They do not have a ‘home’ in Mexico any more.


5 posted on 06/15/2010 4:51:41 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!!!!!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
yeah its like a strongly worded letter from the US Embassy. It means were pissed but we are not going to do anything about it.
6 posted on 06/15/2010 4:51:57 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: JoeProBono

This is infuriating. We no longer CONTROL OUR OWN TERRITORY. Nice that taxpayers are providing for the upkeep of a place that they can’t use because the smugglers have taken it over. On US soil. The government has ceded it to Mexican criminals. And our government’s response is to WARN US about the danger, instead of policing and cleaning up the damn place. Maybe those 1,200 troops BO says he is sending to the border all need to go right there. Speeding drug smugglers indeed. THIS IS A FRIGGING DISGRACE.


7 posted on 06/15/2010 4:51:58 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Mr. K

Tough. They came here illegally in full knowledge of what they were doing. “Good” or not, they broke our law. That makes them criminals. Even if the love little kittens and drink warm milk before they go to bed at night. They have no right to be here. They have as much of a home in Mexico now as they had here when they arrived in Arizona.


8 posted on 06/15/2010 4:54:36 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Mr. K

They should have thought of that when they came here illegally. They will get no sympathy from me. Ever!


9 posted on 06/15/2010 4:56:15 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: AuntB; Liz; Tennessee Nana

border outrage ping


10 posted on 06/15/2010 4:57:43 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
"FRIGGING DISGRACE" = Federal Government

And I'm not referring solely to Congress.

11 posted on 06/15/2010 4:58:10 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: JoeProBono

Would it have killed this lugnut AP “reporter,” Jacques Billeaud, to have bothered to find out what the signs actually have written on them? No picture, nor word throughout the entire piece of crap story to indicate just what these “strong warnings” are.


12 posted on 06/15/2010 4:58:51 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Mr. K
They do not have a ‘home’ in Mexico any more.

Cry me a river... Can I go to Mexico and buy a house and know it will not be taken at a whim??? No...

Now, if I rape a couple kids then stop,,,wait a decade,, I should not be charged?

13 posted on 06/15/2010 4:59:32 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: Mr. K
Now you have good people here who have homes and lives for 20 years suddenly having to face a law they came to expect would never be enforced. They do not have a ‘home’ in Mexico any more.

TOO BAD. Those 'good people' are part of the illegal immigration problem.

14 posted on 06/15/2010 5:01:21 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: La Lydia

I have to agree. Even though they believed the law wouldn’t be enforced, it’s no excuse for not pursuing the path to citizenship anyway at some point in the ‘20 years’ or so they’ve enjoyed the benefits of living in the Land of the Free.


15 posted on 06/15/2010 5:01:53 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: La Lydia

when are the people going to go and re take the land? We already know that the gov’t will do nothing. Time for the people to stop whining and take action


16 posted on 06/15/2010 5:03:54 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

What a surprise it would be for the drug smugglers to be driving around out there one day, business as usual, and come across several thousand well armed Americans. All they’d have to do is shoot their tires out.


17 posted on 06/15/2010 5:06:46 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: JoeProBono

ambush them.


18 posted on 06/15/2010 5:06:54 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: JoeProBono
As long as Chiricahua Natl Monument is left alone... I can't imagine anyone coming that way. A little too tricky of terrain. Gorgeous park. Basically you are nestled in a giant Amphitheater of Organpipe igneous rock formations. The hiking trails are great. I need to go back with my sons now that they are older. Next spring break with an extra large Coleman Heater this time.

Arizona is a beautiful state.

19 posted on 06/15/2010 5:09:19 PM PDT by kinghorse (How's that Pax Obama working out? More like Pox Obama.)
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To: JoeProBono

Way past time to reclaim our country. That is ridiculous that warnings have to be issued in one of our National Monuments.


20 posted on 06/15/2010 5:17:19 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Those signs will fix the problem so it never happens again.


21 posted on 06/15/2010 5:18:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: JoeProBono; HiJinx; Borax Queen; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; A Navy Vet; ...

Border Ping


22 posted on 06/15/2010 5:44:14 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

23 posted on 06/15/2010 5:48:57 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

A monument to the duplicity and feclessness of Obama. Signs should be in Spanish and state a warning that the monument lands are filled with armed American citizens who are fed up with wetbacks trashing their country.


24 posted on 06/15/2010 6:03:01 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Mr. K
Now you have good people here who have homes and lives for 20 years suddenly having to face a law they came to expect would never be enforced. They do not have a ‘home’ in Mexico any more.

They are not good people, they are criminals. That they have no home in Mexico is not our problem.

25 posted on 06/15/2010 6:05:08 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Lion Den Dan

I like that! Action always speaks louder than words


26 posted on 06/15/2010 6:06:33 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: Mr. K

So what kind of work are you doing?


27 posted on 06/15/2010 6:08:24 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: JoeProBono

Please contact the Sierra Club about this and also the closing of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge due to smuggling activity. There are numerous endangered species in the Buenos Aires.


28 posted on 06/15/2010 7:16:49 PM PDT by refreshed
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To: refreshed

Yeah, endangered species like American Sovereignty.


29 posted on 06/15/2010 7:36:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


30 posted on 06/15/2010 9:27:07 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from the rocker on my front porch...)
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To: Mr. K
Now you have good people here who have homes and lives for 20 years suddenly having to face a law they came to expect would never be enforced. They do not have a ‘home’ in Mexico any more.

After 20 years there would have been at least two amnesties offered. They could have become citizens yet they chose not to. "F"'em!

31 posted on 06/16/2010 6:46:58 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: kinghorse

Buy a Saiga 12 with 4 12 rnd. mags, and two BAR .300 mag rifles with good scopes. Add in some perimeter warning devices, and you can have a relatively safe vacation.

Remember, as you hike, to contemplate:
1. “Embrace Diversity!”
2. “Diversity Is Our Strength!”

Obama will be soooo pleased.


32 posted on 06/16/2010 8:06:22 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Lion Den Dan
John Taliaferro Thompson had the solution in 1921. Although I might be persuaded not to fire on southbound Mexicans.


33 posted on 06/24/2010 6:21:41 AM PDT by M1928A1 Thompson ("A policeman's job is only easy in a police state!")
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To: M1928A1 Thompson

Oh! the sweet, sweet sound of the FREEDOM machine. The state of Arizona needs about 1000 operational personnel with appropriate support personnel armed in similar fashion. Unleash that group and in 30 days the border problem would be solved in that district.


34 posted on 06/24/2010 4:42:47 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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