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IF YOU’RE CALLING KEVIN COSTNER, THINGS MUST BE REALLY SCREWED UP
Philadelphia Magazine ^ | 16 June 2010 | Chris Freind

Posted on 06/15/2010 7:51:22 PM PDT by grace522

Teaching a child how to ride a bike always involves certain lessons.

How to pedal, how to balance yourself, how to steer.

We teach these things because they are common sense.

But we also teach — stress, actually — the most important aspect of bike riding: how to stop.

Why? Because it defies common sense not to do so. After all, it would be irresponsible and dangerous to engage in an activity which we couldn’t control.

Teaching someone how to stop a bike can’t guarantee an accident won’t happen, but it certainly lessens the likelihood.

After watching the gulf oil spill, it’s apparent that common sense is in short supply from both oil companies and the U.S. Government.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.phillymag.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bp; obama; oil

1 posted on 06/15/2010 7:51:22 PM PDT by grace522
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To: grace522

Lol...My Mother was even rooting for Kevin’s idea...


2 posted on 06/15/2010 7:52:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: grace522

Costner’s been on this idea for years. Put his money where his mouth is. I don’t particularly like his movies but bashing him seems juvenile at best.


3 posted on 06/15/2010 7:55:47 PM PDT by allmost
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To: grace522

All I saw was a prototype that looked like it might
clean a gallon in five minutes... Costner just looking
for financing.


4 posted on 06/15/2010 7:57:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: grace522
Costner put his money where his mouth was. He really invested in the idea. Costner stepped up and said "I have a plan, maybe this will work." Costner has been pushing this for weeks, with steady tenacity.

This country would be better off if Kevin Costner were president. Maybe not a lot better off, but at least we'd have someone with passion and interest in the problem. Obama just wants to golf.

5 posted on 06/15/2010 7:57:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: grace522

Who they outta call, eh.

6 posted on 06/15/2010 7:58:18 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: allmost

The man put in close to $20 Million of his own money for this.

The technology has been there for ages. It was in fact, originally funded by the government before the technology was sold to private groups ( Costner being one of the buyers ).


7 posted on 06/15/2010 7:58:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: grace522
Hell, Costner certainly can't do any worse than the incompetent, impotent Obammunist has done! I say let him in there and let's see if his contraptions work, dammit!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

8 posted on 06/15/2010 7:59:40 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: grace522

What did Costner say when he saw Joy Behar?

Ans: Tatonka, tatonka


9 posted on 06/15/2010 8:08:15 PM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: stephenjohnbanker; TommyDale; maggief; Libloather; hoosiermama

IF OBAMA’S CALLING KEVIN COSTNER, THINGS MUST BE REALLY SCREWED UP.

I hear Ohaha also speed-dialed Oprah.


10 posted on 06/15/2010 8:14:05 PM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: Liz

EPIC FAIL


11 posted on 06/15/2010 8:15:17 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

That speech of his was so well-rehearsed——he must have channelled Lee Strassberg.


12 posted on 06/15/2010 8:20:33 PM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: allmost

Seems like Kevin might have Part of a useful system.

What will his device be able to do about Oil suspended in the Pelagic Zone?

Will all oil from the spill eventually rise to the surface?

Or would it be possible to attach some kind of ROV to the end of a long suction tube to seek out Suspended slicks?


13 posted on 06/15/2010 8:28:38 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: grace522
Only a little screwed up. When the crap really hits the fan, you know who to call:


14 posted on 06/15/2010 8:31:20 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: tet68

BP is buyiung 32 of the largest size, the half-million-dollar V20, which (supposedly) will clean 210,000 gallons per day. That’s about 146 gallons per minute. It would be a very slow process, using lots of energy, I’m sure. I wonder how much of a carbon footprint one of them has. :-)

Here’s a graphic and more info:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/06/gulf-oil-spill-costner-solution-has-green-light-but-no-green.html


15 posted on 06/15/2010 8:31:25 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: bigbob

No, you call his nephew.


16 posted on 06/15/2010 8:32:01 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: grace522

...and if Chuck can’t do anything about it, there’s always Oprah Winfrey.


17 posted on 06/15/2010 8:33:03 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: SwedeBoy2
The chemical ‘dispersants’ they are currently dumping in the Gulf just make it look pretty, poison everything though. The sub surface zones are farmore toxic IMO.
18 posted on 06/15/2010 8:35:50 PM PDT by allmost
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To: grace522
I've never heard of this guy but if he invested in a company that built a vacuum/centrifuge to clean up oil spills, USE IT!
19 posted on 06/15/2010 8:36:18 PM PDT by dalereed (in)
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To: tet68
All I saw was a prototype that looked like it might clean a gallon in five minutes... Costner just looking for financing.

He's put 15 yrs - he and his scientist brother and company - into this - and some $26 million of Kostner's money.

The demonstration machine he used is a small model for just that.

It seems that many freepers these days will swallow whatever they read without doing any independent research. Disheartening.

But for those of you not adverse to looking into the truth of what Kostner was offering - 26+ large machines ready to go, over a month ago - one of their machines is capable of cleaning up to 210,000 gallons of water per day. The oil extractor leaves the water 99 percent clean of crude, the firm said in a statement. If implemented when he went there - they could have now cleaned many millions of gallons of water and there would be FAR less oil to destroy the beaches.

If obummer had also accepted the help for all the other countries that offered it - just days into it - we would likely not HAVE any oil on the beaches. But to let them come in - or even to let Kostner's machines be operated, it would have non-Union workers and obummer won't allow it. (He could simply waive the Jones ACt to allow it, but he's protecting/obeying the unions.

live links next post so even the laziest can easily get to them.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/give-kevin-costner-credit-for-bp-oil-spill-efforts

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-bp-countries-offer-assistance.html

20 posted on 06/15/2010 8:39:56 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: tet68
live links per above post

Kostner

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/give-kevin-costner-credit-for-bp-oil-spill-efforts

17 Countries Offer Gulf Assistance, BP Accepts Only 2 Offers - from the very first.
As obama told us, once he finally took a little time to acknowledge the spill, BP took orders from him and did nothing without his say so.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-bp-countries-offer-assistance.html

These are just two of the many solutions that have been brought forth - It is TOTALLY the presidents fault that this oil is reaching and destroying our coasts and may well finish our economy (not that he and his thugs want that...”never let a crisis go to waste”

21 posted on 06/15/2010 8:40:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: grace522
Okay, this bozo burns me up.

Critics of the mandated relief-well suggestion will scoff that it is naïve, and that things aren’t so black-and-white. We’ll hear that the situation is more “complicated” than this columnist makes it out to be, and that we, the lay people, just don’t understand.

And you know what? That will signify that such a suggestion is on the right track.

Because invariably, whenever we peons are patronized with such language — usually by politicians and business executives in hot water — it means that damage-control is in full swing to cover the derrieres of those who failed to use that age-old, and too often forgotten trait, called common sense.

Yeah, sure, my pea-brain Freind. Just because you're stupid and ignorant doesn't mean you're right. You talk big now, but where were you in all your ignorant glory before this happened, you who has all the answers now?

Common sense tells me that you're a blowhard Monday-morning quarterback who would be able to address the idiocies of your plan if you had even a slight clue what you were talking about. But to just bluster about "if my plan is so stupid that people talk down to me, then it must be right" is truly delusional.


In the Chris Freind world, every time a fire engine responded to a fire, it would be towing two other engines behind it..."just in case it breaks down."

22 posted on 06/15/2010 8:45:12 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: grace522
judd nelson Pictures, Images and Photos Bananarama Pictures, Images and Photos

Other 80's underemployed celebrities Bananarama and Judd Nelson say they're available anytime, anywhere for ideas.

23 posted on 06/15/2010 8:47:01 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: grace522
I heard on local radio today that 22 of Kevin's machines are in use and 20 more are on order and are being built on rush order. They cost $500,000 each to manufacture.

Kudos to him for having the American spirit.....investing hard-earned money and dreams in something that is beneficial employment-wise and in other ways to OUR country for a change.

Leni

24 posted on 06/15/2010 8:49:12 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: grace522
This blogger is a buffoon.

As others have already said, it was Costner's money that financed the project. 24 million dollars and almost twenty years with his scientist brother Dan in charge of developing the technology.

I believe they bought the technology from the Energy Dept.

They have 20 or so large units ready to go, and they can build more. Very interesting stuff.

The author is embarrassing himself.

25 posted on 06/15/2010 8:57:28 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: MinuteGal

I agree.

When did we start bashing entrepreneurs and investors in great ideas.
I may not agree with how Kevin votes. But today, I don’t even care.

Good for him!!!. He’s done more than the president and BP put together.


26 posted on 06/15/2010 9:02:57 PM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: CrappieLuck
Kevin's idea and the fact that he is coming forward to try something is more than O and BP have done.

It's that kind of entrepreneurship that big government gets in the way of. We've all heard the stories of inventors and seen their products who are dying to help. We know that other countries have capabilities we don't.

But the big bureaucracy is in the way and moves so slowly that the window to mitigate this situation is closing.

27 posted on 06/15/2010 9:15:59 PM PDT by MWestMom (Tread carefully, truth lies here.)
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To: maine-iac7

Do you realise how badly Obama would have been mocked here on FR, if he had asked for Costners help 4 or 5 weeks ago?


28 posted on 06/15/2010 9:22:00 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Gondring

If you wonder, maybe this will help.

These devices don’t take that much power. They have few moving parts. They are portable. The largest unit at the moment separates oil from water at a rate of 200gpm with 99% efficiency.

http://www.ots.org/


29 posted on 06/15/2010 9:51:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: tet68

He doesn’t need financing, and he has been testing these units IN THE GULF already, and they are very successful.

Go to the company website, watch the video, look at the specs on the different models.

http://www.ots.org/

Because you certainly got the wrong impression from where ever you saw some prototype.


30 posted on 06/15/2010 9:53:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: dr_who

Chuck can always do something about it.


31 posted on 06/16/2010 4:22:34 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: UCANSEE2
Thanks for the info. They seem to play fast and loose.

From the website:

British Petroleum signed a letter of intent with Ocean Therapy Solutions [...]
"British Petroleum" hasn't existed in more than a decade, AFAIK.

Note that the "99% efficiency" is not for energy, but how much water is in the effluent of the device. The claim means 10,000 ppmv or ppm of oil remains in the water. Compare this to the 0.5 ppm of oil people were complaining about in the underwater plumes.

I'm not saying it wouldn't help, but 10 V20 machines per month won't cut it.

32 posted on 06/16/2010 4:28:45 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: UCANSEE2

The first test emulsified the stuff and made a mess. They say they fixed that problem and retested and had success ibn the breownwater test.

Thy are now deploying again for bluewater testing and haven’t yet released test results. As the website says: “The tests remain closed to media as we continue our work.”


33 posted on 06/16/2010 4:32:41 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Liz

I see that MSNBC was extremely harsh with Ohaha after his speech. That will cost Ohaha at least 4 votes next time around.


34 posted on 06/16/2010 5:18:02 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale

Heh-—nice slap.


35 posted on 06/16/2010 5:21:34 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: grace522

I think you’re better off calling Kevin Costner than James Cameron!


36 posted on 06/16/2010 10:43:24 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: tet68

All I saw was a prototype that looked like it might
clean a gallon in five minutes... Costner just looking
for financing.”

What you saw was a SMALL SCALE prototype. That is not the full size machine!!!!!

The machine that Kevin & his brother have worked on for years is much larger- it cleans 2100 gallons a minute, using centrifugal forces.

Kevin has put $26 million of his own money into the R & D of this equipment.

What have YOU done lately?

I agree that not all items that are started & subjected to comprehensive R & D are totally viable, but unless you have spent $26 million of YOUR money on something- Shut up.

Meanwhile, ABC said this AM that BP has been testing the machines & they have ordered 32 of them.


37 posted on 06/16/2010 11:21:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Gondring

I bow to your specs.
I had heard 2100 gallons a minute.


38 posted on 06/16/2010 11:23:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ClearCase_guy
This country would be better off if Kevin Costner were president.

Absolutely agree. And the man has a real CT SS #, + both his parents were American citizens, and he was born here! He also is an excellent horseman. OK, he's not as good an actor as the Soetoro boy, but he is a better golfer.

BTW, Kevin's machine actually works, which is something Kid Kenya hasn't mastered.

39 posted on 06/16/2010 11:45:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama: Reviving States' Rights.)
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