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Train horns keep homeless awake
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 06/16/2010 | By Melissa Fletcher Stoeltje - Express-News

Posted on 06/16/2010 8:32:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

For people trying to sleep overnight at Prospects Courtyard, the outdoor area at the Haven for Hope homeless center, several nuisances conspire to keep them awake.

Beetles. Mosquitoes. Thin mats that provide little buffer against the concrete.

But the biggest deterrents to a good night's rest are the trains that come rumbling down the Union Pacific tracks alongside the campus. They run during the night and into the morning, horns blaring.

“It's like they're coming right down on top of you,” groused a homeless man who'd spent a wide-awake night in the courtyard recently.

Haven officials knew from the start that the trains were going to be a problem, said CEO George Block. The campus has tried to establish a “quiet zone” so train conductors would refrain from blowing their horns there in the middle of the night.

“We keep these people really busy during the day, so they have to be able to sleep at night,” said Block of his courtyard residents. “Also, with some guys in Prospects, if a train wakes them up at 2 a.m. they're suddenly looking for a bottle or a drug dealer.”

Creating a quiet zone entails a number of things, chief among them is modifying crossings to include medians that prevent cars from going around train track barriers. Hence, no need to blow the whistle.

After dozens of meetings, most players were on board, Block said. Bexar County Sheriff Amadeo Ortiz signed off. Councilman David Medina, in whose district the tracks lie, approved and even wanted to extend the zone past the homeless center. Union Pacific was fine with it. The city said it was a good idea. Even the state agreed to chip in money.

One roadblock remains: Some officials with the county believe a quiet zone would disrupt access to the Bexar County Jail.

By law, no driveway can be within 60 feet of the medians. The jail driveway by the Martin Street tracks breaches that distance.

“The issue is having access to the loading dock and sally port on the west side of the jail,” said Betty Bueché, facilities division manager with the county. “Law enforcement vehicles carrying prisoners use that access, as do fire trucks, emergency vehicles and 18-wheelers. My fear is if we move that driveway, the vehicles will have to travel into the surrounding neighborhoods.”

Block said at meetings county officials objected to moving the driveway because it would rob the jail of parking spaces. But Ortiz identified two locations near the jail that could serve as low-cost parking options.

Bueché said parking has nothing to do with the impasse. In fact, the jail is going to build a parking area with more than 900 spaces.

“Moving the driveway is something that will seriously affect jail operations,” she said.

Ortiz said there are alternate routes truckers and law enforcement officers can take to get to the jail that won't take them through neighborhoods, and that the driveway issue may be as simple as “moving it to an angle instead of a right turn.”

Block said Medina has already targeted $30,000 in his budget to make quiet-zone improvements to Leal Street, on the north side of the campus. Haven is willing to pay $150,000 to make similar upgrades to Hardberger Way. The state has agreed to spend $175,000 to update Martin Street, the most involved makeover.

Until the quiet zone dustup is resolved, one set of clients will be barred from Haven: canines.

“The vets at our kennels said it would be cruel and inhumane to subject dogs' ears to the trains,” Block said.

Bueché said another meeting on the issue will be held in late June.


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This Haven for Hope homeless shelter? Brand New. A million dollar facility. That's right. Your stimulus tax monies went to San Antonio to build a million dollar facility that was not needed. We had plenty of agencies (some private - some governmental) spending plenty of money on our homeless, but NOOOOOOO....... They had to build this new shelter.
1 posted on 06/16/2010 8:32:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

You have got. To be kidding.

As a society, we are unraveling.

Truly. It’s hard to imagine such a great country, can implode so effectively, so quickly.

Was this how it happened to Rome?


2 posted on 06/16/2010 8:34:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sheesh! What’s the matter with me? Did I say a Million Dollar facility.

Need to add zeroes.

As in a HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR shelter.

$100,000,000.00

(my bad)


3 posted on 06/16/2010 8:35:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: Responsibility2nd

A policy of “Shoot the Homeless” would make more sense.


4 posted on 06/16/2010 8:36:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Responsibility2nd
They could plug their ears with old syringes.
5 posted on 06/16/2010 8:36:14 AM PDT by petercooper (Ignorant Obama Voters: Happy Now?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Who sold the land to the city? Or did the city already own it?

Hard for a private property developer to get people to buy homes right next to a train yard (but not hard to get them to buy into an industrial warehouse zone, tell they are “artist lofts” and charge $1200 a month).


6 posted on 06/16/2010 8:36:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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I have a train near me. It blows often. I don’t even notice anymore..so this is BS. Sumbudy is wanting money or land grab.


7 posted on 06/16/2010 8:38:07 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why didn’t they build a school for the deaf next to the train yard?

And $100,000,000 was spent. To connected interests. Someone got the contract to build. Someone was sent out to inspect. Etc. Kick it back to the ones that gave it to you, come election time.


8 posted on 06/16/2010 8:38:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They need to stay awake:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/23124646/detail.html

In the article: A homicide detective determined that there were no signs of foul play and that the woman was likely homeless.


9 posted on 06/16/2010 8:38:10 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well by all means let’s just stop the trains entirely so these people can enjoy a refreshing night’s sleep in their deluxe accommodations courtesy of the taxpayer.


10 posted on 06/16/2010 8:38:24 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Responsibility2nd

If it costs so much why are they sleeping outside?


11 posted on 06/16/2010 8:38:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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All union labor, right. I bet they worked "overtime" to get it ready for the poor "homeless".

BTW, how can they be homeless if they have a place to live?

12 posted on 06/16/2010 8:38:45 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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Years ago, when I was starting out, my family lived in a flat near the junction of two major cross country highways which had traffic 24/7, including noisy air brakes, diesel horns and the lovely aroma of exhaust. It was all we could afford at the time.

After awhile, I stopped noticing the noise. Maybe because I was so dog tired from a day's work that I was ready to sleep.

When we were able to move to a quiet neighborhood, my wife (who had gotten used to the road noise as well) had trouble getting used to the sound of crickets chirping and frogs croaking. We still laugh about it.

13 posted on 06/16/2010 8:39:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: a fool in paradise

37 acres.

http://www2.mysanantonio.com/PDFs/20100418_haven_for_hope.pdf


14 posted on 06/16/2010 8:39:47 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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Prospects Courtyard? Haven for Hope homeless center?

Does anyone know where this is?

Anyone??

15 posted on 06/16/2010 8:40:52 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Responsibility2nd

“(homeless men) have to be able to sleep at night”

They should become bums or hobos then. From what I’ve seen those guys sleep more than cats.


16 posted on 06/16/2010 8:41:16 AM PDT by tumblindice (resign Barry, don't make us seat-of-the-pants you)
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To: Responsibility2nd

$100,000,000.00

You.Have.Got.To.Be.Kidding.


17 posted on 06/16/2010 8:41:31 AM PDT by mo
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To: Responsibility2nd
If you're tired, you can sleep through anything. I learned this working the night shift on an aircraft carrier and trying to sleep during the day in a berthing located directly underneath the arresting wires on the flight deck.

If you've been there, you know what I'm talking about. Slept like a baby.

18 posted on 06/16/2010 8:43:12 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Responsibility2nd

No problem. Just get Hussein to sign an executive order outlawing trains! After all, some wino getting another 30 minutes of sleep is FAR more important than a few hundred billion dollars worth of stuff moving over the rails!!


19 posted on 06/16/2010 8:43:25 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Responsibility2nd

Another unintended consequence of the brilliance of Willie Green!!!


20 posted on 06/16/2010 8:44:11 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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