Posted on 06/16/2010 12:51:05 PM PDT by tutstar
P.S.
You may want to read my post to MGBGUN, post #118.
All is well, my FRiend.
You are Panama’s greatest spokesperson.Seems like Panama is more American than America is.
We are headed for a bad time here, M.
History is about to give us a tune-up, and we are asleep at the switch.
Stay safe, and may 2011 be the year you can get Girl Scout cookies down there! ;)
“You are advocating insurrection and treason. WE DON’T do that in this country. Contrary to your assertions, the Declaration of Independence is part of American History, but IT IS NOT LAW.”
Contrary to your misunderstanding, the Declaration IS included in the US Code. Not as an legislative act, but as a preamble and statement of the philosophy underpinning all other acts contained therein.
As for the attempt at intimidation: “If this be Treason...”
Thank you. You have placed me in the ranks of Henry, Jefferson, Washington, Adams, and many other American patriots who were called hotheads and traitors.
See post 123.
Where?
“The constitutional and legal status of the Declaration of Independence is curiously ambiguous. John Hancock (in his capacity as president of the Second Continental Congress) and James Madison both considered it to be, in Madison's words, “the fundamental Act of Union of these States.” Reflecting that view, congress has placed it at THE HEAD OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, UNDER THE CAPTION, “THE ORGANIC LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”
The Supreme Court has infrequently accorded it binding legal force, for example, in resolving questions of alienage (Inglis v. Trustees of Sailor's Snug Harbour, 1830). Yet lawyers generally, and the Supreme Court in particular, have been reluctant to treat the Declaration as part of American organic law, or even to accord it the restricted status of the Preamble to the Constitution. Conservatives like Daniel Webster denied that there is a constitutionally recognized right of revolution, and those state supreme courts that have addressed the issue in the twentieth century have adopted Webster's view. Reformers, such as antebellum abolitionists, insisted that the Declaration was part of the constitutional order, while their opponents, including John C. Calhoun, denigrated its authority and validity. The adoption of the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments allayed the urgency of that question by incorporating concepts of equality, freedom, and citizenship into the operative constitutional text.
Nevertheless, the Declaration of Independence endures as the basic statement of the principles of American government. Abraham Lincoln invoked its authority in the supreme crisis of the union, and it remains today the foundation of our constitutional order.”
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In 1897, the SCOTUS declared:
“The latter [Constitution] is but the body and letter of which the former [Declaration of Independence] is the thought and spirit, and it is always safe to read the letter of the Constitution in the spirit of the Declaration of independence.”
I hope you are satisfied with this, NS. If not, sorry; I will not play the nitpicking games you like to engage in on this forum.
Obama is such a narcissistic noob.
“Nevertheless, the Declaration of Independence endures as the basic statement of the principles of American government. Abraham Lincoln invoked its authority in the supreme crisis of the union, and it remains today the foundation of our constitutional order.”
I find that humorous. President Lincoln trampled all over the Constitution is order to protect it. He violated the intent of the Declaration when he used force to keep the South from succeeding because they no longer “consented” to the government as it had evolved.
You can’t have it both ways. President Lincoln denied Southern States the right to do what the Declaration indicated. And we are told he “evoked” it to justify this action?
It seems to me that the Civil War ended the question of a 2nd Revolution being possible. But now we have person advocating violating the constitution in order to remove a sitting POTUS.
Hey, I don’t care for President Obama and his leaving office as soon as legally possible is a great thing to me. However, I will not be part of a coup....that is what some here are advocating. What persons should be doing is supporting folks like LTC Lakin instead. Folks we just don’t have the time to deal with even minor insurrection in the ranks that could lead to violent actions against an administration. Once we go down that road, there is no stopping it in the future....even with a good POTUS.
Hello my very great friend.
Apologies for my very, very late reply.
As you can see, I have not forgotten you. This has been on my mind for many weeks every day.
“We are headed for a bad time here, M.”
Yes, I know…I can’t sleep well at night thinking about it. It is every night. There is nothing I can tell you any differently since you are also suffering through this also. Panama is going to come through this okay, but the U.S. is still my country. Panama is digging gold, copper, and just discovered oil near the Colombian boarder.
The bad news here in Panama is interest rates earned on time deposits are almost at floor level.
“Stay safe, and may 2011 be the year you can get Girl Scout cookies down there!”
I googled the recipe(s). Too, too involved for my patience. Half way through, I can picture myself running out the front door screaming.
Everything is great in Panama other than the above mentioned interest rates. We finally have an honest president. He gives his entire salary to 5 different charities. He is also prosecuting all past presidents and other past government thieves for robbery. I love it.
The Canal itself is making 5 billion dollars a year. 3 billion is being used for the maintenance of the canal to include salaries. 2 billion is being used to pay off its 11 billion dollar debt. In over a short 5 year period, Panama will be debt free.
My best regards to you; and again, sorry for the late reply.
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