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The Very Angry Tea Party
The NY Slimes ^ | June 17, 2010 | J.M. BERNSTEIN

Posted on 06/17/2010 4:34:39 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

The seething anger that seems to be an indigenous aspect of the Tea Party movement arises, I think, at the very place where politics and metaphysics meet, where metaphysical sentiment becomes political belief. More than their political ideas, it is the anger of Tea Party members that is already reshaping our political landscape. As Jeff Zeleny reported last Monday in The Times, the vast majority of House Democrats are now avoiding holding town-hall-style forums — just as you might sidestep an enraged, jilted lover on a subway platform — out of fear of confronting the incubus of Tea Party rage that routed last summer’s meetings. This fear-driven avoidance is, Zeleny stated, bringing the time-honored tradition of the political meeting to the brink of extinction.

It would be comforting if a clear political diagnosis of the Tea Party movement were available — if we knew precisely what political events had inspired the fierce anger that pervades its meetings and rallies, what policy proposals its backers advocate, and, most obviously, what political ideals and values are orienting its members.

Of course, some things can be said, and have been said by commentators, under each of these headings. The bailout of Wall Street, the provision of government assistance to homeowners who cannot afford to pay their mortgages, the pursuit of health care reform and, as a cumulative sign of untoward government expansion, the mounting budget deficit are all routinely cited as precipitating events. I leave aside the election of a — “foreign-born” — African-American to the presidency.

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1 posted on 06/17/2010 4:34:39 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

And the left was a model of peaceful reflection and thought during the Bush administration.

These people are clinically insane.


2 posted on 06/17/2010 4:41:34 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“I leave aside the election of a — “foreign-born” — African-American to the presidency.”
Leave aside what matters the most? That’s a foolish analysis. Shouldn’t anybody be quite reasonably angry that our President violated the constitution by running for office as a non-natural-citizen (and possibly not even a citizen at all)? This is a very big part of what’s riling up the tea parties.


3 posted on 06/17/2010 4:41:56 AM PDT by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

The United State’s current administration with the help of the Democrat majority in both houses of Congress are out to destroy the private sector economy and end America’s economic and military superpower status that keeps us safe and free.

Why are people that love America as the champion of individual Freedom and Liberty angry?

Some people must be pretending to not get it.


4 posted on 06/17/2010 4:41:57 AM PDT by reaganator
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To: LurkedLongEnough
The old “angry tea party” trick again? Hasn't that meme been worn out? Last I checked it was the Tea Party people that were getting assaulted for speaking out about their political beliefs...you know....the kind of thing that the tolerant nonviolent left can't take without getting intolerant and violent.
5 posted on 06/17/2010 4:42:52 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: LurkedLongEnough

OK, so the author of this blog is a philosophy professor and author of 5 books not read outside of effete circles.

His particular error is to state that the ‘tea party’ has no concrete ideas, cannot define what it wants, and is acting like an angry, illogical jilted lover.

to wit: “In truth, there is nothing that the Tea Party movement wants; terrifyingly, it wants nothing. Lilla calls the Tea Party “Jacobins”; I would urge that they are nihilists. To date, the Tea Party has committed only the minor, almost atmospheric violences of propagating falsehoods, calumny and the disruption of the occasions for political speech — the last already to great and distorting effect. But if their nihilistic rage is deprived of interrupting political meetings as an outlet, where might it now go? With such rage driving the Tea Party, might we anticipate this atmospheric violence becoming actual violence, becoming what Hegel called, referring to the original Jacobins’ fantasy of total freedom, “a fury of destruction”? There is indeed something not just disturbing, but frightening, in the anger of the Tea Party.”

He is MIGHTILY un-perceptive if he cannot infer or read what the tea party is about and for.


6 posted on 06/17/2010 4:43:16 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
It would be comforting if a clear political diagnosis of the Tea Party movement were available — if we knew precisely what political events had inspired the fierce anger that pervades its meetings and rallies, what policy proposals its backers advocate, and, most obviously, what political ideals and values are orienting its members.

This was written by someone with a disordered mind, IMO. Given knowledge of the failed stimulus packages, the socialization of health care, rhetoric instead of tangible actions in response to the uncapped oil well, country debt approaching 100% of GDP, generations saddled with debt, and gross failure and negligence in carrying out the will of the people, one cannot possibly wonder what is making voters angry, not just tea party members!

7 posted on 06/17/2010 4:44:30 AM PDT by olezip
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I could give a s**t if they call me angry. I AM. I am angry at these evil Marxist bastards trying to destroy what has been the greatest country in the history of the world. They are evil and need to be destroyed.


8 posted on 06/17/2010 4:47:14 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: mike-zed

But it’s all good.

We all know that the disgust is real and crosses demographics and party lines. If the Dums want to ignore it and instead appear aloof and out of touch with their constituents while they waste billions of taxpayer dollars, that’s fine. Please don’t wake them up.

The Dums are going to lose 60 House seats this November, one of which will be NY20.


9 posted on 06/17/2010 4:50:02 AM PDT by lowtaxsmallgov (http://www.chrisgibsonforcongress.com/donate.html)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Amen.


10 posted on 06/17/2010 4:50:39 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"It would be comforting if a clear political diagnosis of the Tea Party movement were available"

Its the spending!!!!

11 posted on 06/17/2010 4:52:56 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“It would be comforting if a clear political diagnosis of the Tea Party movement were available — if we knew precisely what political events had inspired the fierce anger that pervades its meetings and rallies, what policy proposals its backers advocate, and, most obviously, what political ideals and values are orienting its members”

Is the author blind, deaf AND plum dumb??? Where has he been living for the last couple years.... under a rock?

Can such staggering idiocy call itself ‘journalism’?

You can hardly hit the net, watch the news or look at a newspaper without a Tea Party member’s ABJECTLY unambiguous poster staring you in the face. AND these posters are NOT subtle.


12 posted on 06/17/2010 4:54:22 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“It would be comforting if a clear political diagnosis of the Tea Party movement were available — if we knew precisely what political events had inspired the fierce anger that pervades its meetings and rallies, what policy proposals its backers advocate, and, most obviously, what political ideals and values are orienting its members”

Is the author blind, deaf AND plum dumb??? Where has he been living for the last couple years.... under a rock?

Can such staggering idiocy call itself ‘journalism’?

You can hardly hit the net, watch the news or look at a newspaper without a Tea Party member’s ABJECTLY unambiguous poster staring you in the face. AND these posters are NOT subtle.


13 posted on 06/17/2010 4:54:56 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: SueRae

“Amen” nails it. To me it’s simple. Socialists don’t believe in God, can’t believe in God, refuse to believe in God and therefore, don’t understand those who do. Oh, and as to why we’re angry: personally, the anger started when elected officials announced they would vote for legislation they hadn’t read.


14 posted on 06/17/2010 4:55:19 AM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Actually the major reason is right there in the name of the name of the TEA Party.

Taxed
Enough
Already


15 posted on 06/17/2010 4:59:11 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Blueflag

Odd I read what he has written and ponder,

What is he afraid of? Why is it terrifying to him that the Tea Party wants nothing of the government, but our Freedom?

For a group of people to seek to have nothing from the government is terrifying.


16 posted on 06/17/2010 4:59:54 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I’m not angry, I’m filled with focused resolve!


17 posted on 06/17/2010 5:00:17 AM PDT by PALIN SMITH (Show them our respectable contempt!)
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To: olezip

> This was written by someone with a disordered mind, IMO.

I think he’s just an ivory tower pinhead.

The violent and outrageous outbursts of the Left, the outrages of Code Pink, including the “We support our troops when they shoot their officers” signs and slogans, are below this pinhead’s radar.


18 posted on 06/17/2010 5:00:52 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

I’m with you. They need to be sent straight back to the pits of hell from whence they came...


19 posted on 06/17/2010 5:02:48 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
The New York Times: Stuck on stupid.

And as everybody knows, you can't fix stupid. Take the NY Times as an object lesson of what happens, when you have willful blindness. It's not a pretty sight.

20 posted on 06/17/2010 5:06:26 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
When the People fear their Government there is Tyranny.

When a Government fears the People there is LIBERTY !!

21 posted on 06/17/2010 5:07:54 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Blueflag
If he is representative, the left is dangerously out of touch with reality. In the sense that a critical miscalculation on their part is assured at some point.
22 posted on 06/17/2010 5:08:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Let me ‘splain something to the author who can’t understand why the Tea Party is so angry:

For DECADES, conservatives have politely taken steps back as the collectivist (fascist/communist, take your pick) usurped our freedoms and gave government more and more intrusive power into our everyday lives, stepping inevitably to the place where “that which is not prohibited is required”. The majority of these usurpations were accomplished not by the will of the people, either, but through the unelected and unaccountable court system.

We took steps backward out of civility, out of the inherent “live and let live” beliefs of the right.

We just noticed the cliff behind us. There are no more steps back in the name of civility.

So, Mr Author who can’t understand the anger, it’s not any recent, current policy, nor is it that “there’s a black man (gasp) in the White House”. As an aside, imagine putting a Keyes, Sowell, or W.E. Williams in the White House and see how angry (and racist?) the left would be.

It’s the culmination of the erosion of liberty and the usurpation of our freedom by your nanny state that has made us angry. We’ve had enough. We’re reaching for the ballot box, possibly for the last time before we move on to the next box of freedom.

You’ve been warned.


23 posted on 06/17/2010 5:16:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Proof positive that there is none so blind as he who will not see.

(Not you, Lurked - the author of the article posted.)


24 posted on 06/17/2010 5:17:35 AM PDT by Peet (<- A.K.A. the Foundling)
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To: Blueflag

Interesting that he calls the TP a bunch of nihilists.

Nihilists believe there is nothing but the present life,
and this leads to a worship of the state. You exist for the perpetuation of the power of the state, and that’s your only worth.

The Tea Party people are the exact opposite of nihilists.


25 posted on 06/17/2010 5:17:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MSSC6644; SueRae

There are only two sides in the Cosmic Battle.
They are on “the other side”.


26 posted on 06/17/2010 5:19:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: EBH

people who seek nothing from the government can’t be controlled

that’s his fear


27 posted on 06/17/2010 5:19:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: mike-zed
And the left was a model of peaceful reflection and thought during the Bush administration.

Media Splatters insists as much

Why let things like reality and facts get in the way of your lying propaganda that would make Goebbels blush?

28 posted on 06/17/2010 5:22:16 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Travis McGee
...the left is dangerously out of touch with reality.

Clearly the author is enchanted with his verbose pomposity. He drivels endlessly about nothing.

Had he personal knowledge of that about which he speaks his writing would have some merit. That he is utterly ignorant of the Tea Party, its adherents and causes, becomes clearer the longer one struggles through his diatribe.

29 posted on 06/17/2010 5:23:00 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: Travis McGee

Agreed. It’s like they create a convenient false image of their opposition to ‘demonize’ and then declare it to be real.

The issue, as you suggest is that they will eventually react to the false image instead of the reality. THAT could have dire consequences.


30 posted on 06/17/2010 5:23:01 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

They really don’t get it.


31 posted on 06/17/2010 5:24:27 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: MrB

Very well said, sir. Very well said.


32 posted on 06/17/2010 5:25:52 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: IntolerantOfTreason
I don't give a crap whether Bam's real birth certificate is from Hawaii, Indonesia, or Kenya. Culturally, he is not an American, he's an international communist POS. He cannot relate to the way that a real American thinks or lives.
33 posted on 06/17/2010 5:25:54 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Impressive that the “progressive” brain trust has advanced their pseudo-intellectual agitprop over the past 20 years from “Angry White Male” to “Angry White Tea Party” ...


34 posted on 06/17/2010 5:29:00 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: mike-zed
It would be comforting if a clear political diagnosis of the Tea Party movement were available — if we knew precisely what political events had inspired the fierce anger that pervades its meetings and rallies, what policy proposals its backers advocate, and, most obviously, what political ideals and values are orienting its members.

I've never known a liberal who needed a reason to hate. If they understand the Tea Party or not - they'll still hate us. And understand? They'll put up a straw man and knock it down no matter what they "get". So here's my suggestion to the Slimes - look up Rick Santelli... talk to him. He's part of the foundation and a great starting point - if they really want understanding... (which I don't believe)

35 posted on 06/17/2010 5:31:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: spodefly
Impressive that the “progressive” brain trust has advanced their pseudo-intellectual agitprop over the past 20 years from “Angry White Male” to “Angry White Tea Party” ...

The left hasn't had a new idea in 40 years - so the progression from "conservatives are angry crazies" to " tea party members are angry crazies" is movement... ( by their lame standards, I guess that's "change"...)

36 posted on 06/17/2010 5:34:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: IntolerantOfTreason; thecabal
I leave aside the election of a — “foreign-born” — African-American to the presidency.

Perhaps he was born in Hawaii as he claims, perhaps not.

What is indisputable is that even if he was "born an American", he certainly was not "raised an American".

Further, his refusal to release his real birth certificate shows there's something on it that would be fatally embarassing. "Race"? "Father"?

37 posted on 06/17/2010 5:35:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Somehow, the author doesn’t remember what happened after the Seven Years’ War when the British tried to impose taxes on American colonists to pay for that war—the result was debacle after debacle the ended with the American Revolution.


38 posted on 06/17/2010 5:36:02 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Blueflag

Very dire, if they think they can at some point issue an ultimatum to the “angry right” to stand-down, or else be given (for historical examples) the Bonus Army or the Japanese Internment treatment.

That would be a very big mistake, to issue ultimatums that would in effect be waving a red flag a bull.


39 posted on 06/17/2010 5:36:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Blueflag
-- He is MIGHTILY un-perceptive if he cannot infer or read what the tea party is about ... --

Another possibility is that he's a liar.

40 posted on 06/17/2010 5:40:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Travis McGee

At this point, such an ultimatum would indeed just inflame things further.

As another columnist pointed out the other day,
“intellectuals” who attempt to denigrate the Tea Party as a bunch of hicks or rubes
is only affirming what we already think - they are a bunch of out of touch elitists that need to be purged from all power.


41 posted on 06/17/2010 5:42:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

This writer is another completely clueless member of the MSM. He also might want to look up metaphysics and find out what it really means.


42 posted on 06/17/2010 5:43:37 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Travis McGee

The Bonus Army is an interesting (and un-taught) historical reference. MacArthur and Eisenhower had a big ‘enforcement’ role in that, IIRC.

Only upside of the whole gig was the GI Bill. That and exposing the ‘benevolence’ of FDR.


43 posted on 06/17/2010 5:44:45 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
There is indeed something not just disturbing, but frightening, in the anger of the Tea Party.

Ah! Another leftist/Marxist out for a walk among the "natives" trying to understand them.

Has anyone noticed that when the leftist/Marxists attempts to write about the Right it is as if he were an anthropologist trying to understand a foreign people and foreign land?

I leave aside the election of a — “foreign-born” — African-American to the presidency.

Yep! That silly piece of stinking dog pooh! Can't step in that. Imagine!... Those silly birthers insisting that the Constitution be upheld. That's so bizare we'll just "leave that aside". (/s)

Lilla cites as examples the growth in home schooling,

According to the author it is due to libertarianism. It couldn't possibly be due to ineffective teaching practices, violence, moral decay, homosexual infiltration, teachers unions, dumbed-down standards, textbooks that denigrate and/or ignore our nation's history, and Marxist indoctrination in the government schools.

Finally,...Please note the author's picture at the bottom of the essay. He has that same snide, nose uplifted, superior look that Obama has.

44 posted on 06/17/2010 5:45:42 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Cboldt

Like most libs, he may not even be aware that he’s basing all of his conclusions on myths and lies. His/their basic assumptions of who man is and who God is put lenses over his eyes such that he CAN’T see the truth.


45 posted on 06/17/2010 5:45:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
if we knew precisely what political events had inspired the fierce anger that pervades its meetings

This elitist scumbag has probably never visited flyover country. If he doesn't understand our anger now he never will.

46 posted on 06/17/2010 5:45:59 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Ooooh, the VERY ANGRY Tea Party. It looks like the Monty Python troupe missed a fun possibility when they portrayed the results of the “Serious Party” against “The Silly Party”, “The Very Silly Party” and “The Slightly Silly Party.”


47 posted on 06/17/2010 5:46:19 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

In light of the Gulf Oil disaster perhaps we should temporarily use the words, “Tar Party”.

Though I am at a loss to make the letters TAR into something useful, ideas?


48 posted on 06/17/2010 5:49:56 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Idiot author should be forced to follow Code Pink around for a year and a day -— then he’ll learn the real meaning of hostility & downright mean nastiness.


49 posted on 06/17/2010 5:52:54 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: MrB
"Interesting that he calls the TP a bunch of nihilists. Nihilists believe there is nothing but the present life, and this leads to a worship of the state. You exist for the perpetuation of the power of the state, and that’s your only worth. The Tea Party people are the exact opposite of nihilists."

This article is projection; virtually all comment from the LEFT is projection. That is, they perceive the world in terms of their own bigotry. They "project" their own bias on to others.

It is a quite obvious phenomenon commonly associated with those of limited imagination; hence they are unable to "walk a mile in someone else's shoes," or unable to concede that others have more insight. It is a total lack of respect for the independent intelligence of other people, in short, arrogance.

Is that not obvious with today's Democrats?

It is also the same as the Nanny society, and is clearly related to the family function of fathers pushing the kids out the door into the real world versus the mothers who do not trust (respect) the ability of the child to handle it.

Mr Bernstein here claims others are nihilists, because he himself is a nihilist; he has nothing to offer. Hence the tagline below. It is a lack of imagination, and the cloying effect of arrogance and personal ego.

Again is that not obvious in today's Democrats, personified graphically by Barack Obama?

And incidentally many, many academics, certainly most, inherit this affliction.

All Democrats will insist that you see the world as they do in their limited intelligence. It's called Leftism.

Johnny Suntrade

50 posted on 06/17/2010 5:56:56 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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