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Seattle police to review training after girl punched
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10336500.stm ^

Posted on 06/17/2010 1:32:41 PM PDT by chessplayer

Seattle police are to review training procedures after video of an officer punching a teenage girl circulated widely on US television and online.

The officer, Ian Walsh, has been transferred temporarily to the department's training unit, Seattle police said.

Police officials said the review of training procedures was not meant as a criticism of the officer's actions but would examine whether training could be improved.

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1 posted on 06/17/2010 1:32:42 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

She was bigger than him.


2 posted on 06/17/2010 1:36:14 PM PDT by donna (Yah Mo B There - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HbbM-FG8lQ)
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To: donna
I just wish the officer would have pummeled that buffalo a few more times. You know, for America.

He was 100% correct in punching that ho in the face.

3 posted on 06/17/2010 1:38:45 PM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: chessplayer

No review needed. He did exactly what he should have in that situation.


4 posted on 06/17/2010 1:39:23 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: chessplayer

Time to train the natives. If you assault an officer who is in the process of making an arrest you will be arrested and you may get hurt in the process.


5 posted on 06/17/2010 1:41:08 PM PDT by eggman (Grab a mop Mr. Gibbs! Your boss is making another mess.)
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To: donna
It is hard to restrain someone really intent on resisting without hurting them . Officers need to patrol in pairs in many areas these days . Close the DMV two days a week and give these officers the support they need . It is a miracle more cops are not shot with their own weapons .
6 posted on 06/17/2010 1:43:26 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: chessplayer

More K-9 units. They don’t sass a snarling dog.


7 posted on 06/17/2010 1:44:34 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: chessplayer

A Hank Williams Jr. song came to mind after I watched the video:

“It was an attitude adjustment
It was her first time...”


8 posted on 06/17/2010 1:46:03 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (How shall he rescue his imprisoned self?)
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To: donna

They do need more training. I don’t think he broke her nose even.


9 posted on 06/17/2010 1:46:16 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: chessplayer

I think more training should be done.

Did you see how she was still standing after that jab?


10 posted on 06/17/2010 1:48:36 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: chessplayer

“Seattle police to review training after girl punched”

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It would be MUCH more apropos to train some...ahem...of the residents of Seattle in the rudiments of civilized behavior and respect for the Law.


11 posted on 06/17/2010 1:50:45 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: chessplayer

That’s a situation Jane Goodall couldn’t have defused.


12 posted on 06/17/2010 1:51:35 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

“More K-9 units. They don’t sass a snarling dog.”

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Excellent idea.

You can’t accuse a vigilant German Shepherd of racism, “profiling” or a hate crime.

Drop the leash and let the demeanor God gave ‘em, take over.


13 posted on 06/17/2010 1:53:29 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Bravo

Very Sly

Well done sir


14 posted on 06/17/2010 1:56:08 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: chessplayer
Around here, the spectators would have intervened and we'd have had a small riot.
15 posted on 06/17/2010 1:56:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: chessplayer

She deserved to be punched.


16 posted on 06/17/2010 1:58:16 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: chessplayer

I watched the video. I thought he acted with notable restraint.


17 posted on 06/17/2010 1:59:04 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: EyeGuy

“It would be MUCH more apropos to train some...ahem...of the residents of Seattle in the rudiments of civilized behavior and respect for the Law.”

It’s the Great Society man. It’s Lyndon and the Democrats greatest achievement.


18 posted on 06/17/2010 1:59:28 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: chessplayer

Yah, punch girls for jaywalking. That will go over well.


19 posted on 06/17/2010 1:59:53 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

In hindsight, he should have backed off and put about 3 rounds center of mass.


20 posted on 06/17/2010 1:59:55 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: EyeGuy

“It would be MUCH more apropos to train some...ahem...of the residents of Seattle in the rudiments of civilized behavior and respect for the Law.”

It’s the Great Society man. It’s Lyndon and the Democrats greatest achievement.


21 posted on 06/17/2010 2:00:29 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: chessplayer

Oh sure. Review training. It’s MUCH better to let some Obama voter beat the hell out of a cop. No nasty articles in the NY Times that way.


22 posted on 06/17/2010 2:01:09 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: 5Madman2; Mr Ramsbotham

Subtle.

Nunced.

Hat tip.


23 posted on 06/17/2010 2:02:09 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Colvin
Yah, punch girls for jaywalking. That will go over well.

The "girl" didn't get punched for jaywalking.

24 posted on 06/17/2010 2:02:38 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

< snicker >


25 posted on 06/17/2010 2:02:44 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

She jay walked, she would not take the ticket so he punched her.
SHE JAY WALKED, SO HE PUNCHED HER


26 posted on 06/17/2010 2:05:26 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: Colvin
She jay walked, she would not take the ticket so he punched her. SHE JAY WALKED, SO HE PUNCHED HER

Well, you'd be close if you were close, but she was just fine up until she assaulted the cop. Her getting punched had nothing to do with jaywalking, and it is completely dishonest and stupid to claim she got punched for jaywalking. She got punched for shoving the cop. It's that simple.

Look, I am no great fan of cops who abuse their authority. This guy was 100% undeniably within his right AND DUTY to do what he did. I'd be backing him ifhe shot her dead with the entire magazine, too, and so would anyone with any intelligence.

27 posted on 06/17/2010 2:11:05 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

>>You can’t accuse a vigilant German Shepherd of racism, “profiling” or a hate crime<<

Don’t know about that.

My 3 shepherds are babies around everyone - except the muzzies next door. And black people selling stuff door-to-door.

Note: No formal training was required.


28 posted on 06/17/2010 2:11:55 PM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: Colvin
She jay walked, she would not take the ticket so he punched her.

Wrong.

She jaywalked, she would not take the ticket, then she and her friend assaulted him, so he punched the friend who was the primary assailant.

Now ... not only do you have the facts wrong, your "brief summary" leaves out salient facts. Your "brief summary" is, in fact, a half truth: an even worse form of deception than an outright fabrication.

If she wishes to avoid getting punched in the future, she might consider:

1) Not jaywalking.

2) Accepting the ticket and contesting it in court.

3) Not resisting arrest.

4) Not helping her friend resist arrest.

5) Not assaulting folks, particularly peace officers.

29 posted on 06/17/2010 2:11:56 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: LadyBuck

On the one hand, your dogs probably know that the muzzies hate them and that the door-to-door salesmen are up to no good.

On the other hand, I was snickering at the Jane Goodall comment ...


30 posted on 06/17/2010 2:13:53 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Colvin
Evidentdly you didn't watch the clip/ Jay walking may have started this incident, but it was the smart ass, big mouth girl that brought it to the fight scene. Someone should have punched her in the mouth about 15 years ago, and perhaps she would have learned to keep her mouth shut.
31 posted on 06/17/2010 2:16:07 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Obama is like a "Slinky" rather amusing to watch but serves no useful purpose)
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To: ArrogantBustard; LadyBuck

Yeah the Shepherd commentary was mine.

Don’t blame AB.(grin)

3 German Shepherds, huh? Remind me not to do a frontal assualt on your home anytime soon.


32 posted on 06/17/2010 2:17:19 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Colvin

She did not get punched for “Jaywalking” she got a hard Right over hand to her jaw for Assaulting a police officer while he was effecting an arrest of another person.
Maybe if she had listened to the man in the Green shirt pulling her back at the beginning of the Video, She might not have been hit.
Actions Have Consequences!
LIT, LIT WYS
LIT= Life IS Tough


33 posted on 06/17/2010 2:18:43 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Colvin

If the girl was punched for jaywalking that would have been wrong. She was punched because she was attacking the officer. She was lucky she wasn’t shot.


34 posted on 06/17/2010 2:18:55 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: EyeGuy
"You can’t accuse a vigilant German Shepherd of racism..."

Oh, trust me...that accusation's been made before.

35 posted on 06/17/2010 2:21:19 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: chessplayer
Where was the cop's pepper spray?

Where was his taser?

You bet he needs more training.

36 posted on 06/17/2010 2:22:43 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: chessplayer
I wish we had the ENTIRE incident on tape, from the very beginning.
My guess is that the girl in the black blouse REFUSED to cooperate with the officer, REFUSED to present her ID, so when the officer attempted to take her into custody, that's when she began to FIGHT THE OFFICER and yell "GET THE @#$% OFF OF ME!!" repeatedly.

In steps the larger girl in the red, who clearly outweighs the officer by at least 30 lbs, and pushes the officer away from the first girl. It is also obvious to the observer that the larger girl almost pushed him down. THAT is when the officer went into self defense mode, punched the larger girl who then backed off.

SCENARIO: You are walking down the street and throw your McDonald's large soda cup into the street and a cop sees you. He stops and attempts to counsel you about littering and you go into full blown obnoxious and tell him to F-OFF and leave you alone.

What do you think will happen to you??

37 posted on 06/17/2010 2:27:34 PM PDT by red-dawg (We have learned to stop terrorism on planes by ourselves, it's time to do that in D.C.)
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To: Jewbacca
In hindsight, he should have backed off and put about 3 rounds center of mass.

And it wouldn't have been a tough shot. That chick had a LOT of mass.

39 posted on 06/17/2010 2:45:55 PM PDT by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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To: chessplayer
They NEED to review their training.

How could an adult, ostensibly trained, male police officer NOT put the raging, emotional, teenage female, beast though she was, OUT with such a punch to the face?

41 posted on 06/17/2010 3:09:05 PM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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"SHE JAY WALKED, SO HE PUNCHED HER"

You are so wrong it's almost funny. The girl in black was the one who jaywalked. She did not get punched. He punched the girl in pink for shoving him while he was attempting to arrest the girl in black. If the girls had behaved like civilized normal people no one would have been punched or even arrested. I am completely against police abuse of authority, but this is not such a case.

42 posted on 06/17/2010 3:09:43 PM PDT by monday
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

There was no mist.


43 posted on 06/17/2010 3:09:55 PM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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I hope he will be administering the training. What he did was just right. Confronted with two violent thugs,he used appropriate force. Just what we expect him to do.


44 posted on 06/17/2010 3:16:46 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: sfg-18b
“Please explain how punching her in the face contributed to controlling the situation?? It didn’t!!!!”

No? Then explain why the police officer didn't get “his ass whipped by the two heifers” and instead the two girls were arrested?

You say “If anything he should of taken control of the situation.”

Seems to me that's exactly what he did.

45 posted on 06/17/2010 3:19:16 PM PDT by monday
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To: Colvin

“Yah, punch girls for jaywalking. That will go over well”

The female thug, that you want to call a girl, was not punched for jay walking. She was punched for her thug behavior in physically interfering with a policemen doing his duty. He had every justification for what he did.


47 posted on 06/17/2010 3:53:02 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: chessplayer

We don’t need anymore jackbooted thugs punching females.If this were the 70’s/80’s he would be looking for a job!Enough of civil servants not being questioned in this country over force issues.I’m tired of law enforcement getting free rein over the public and walking/laughing.If you like this kind of behavior you may be NEXT to deal with these THUGS.I see this all over America and the whimps agree with this thug/caveman behavior.


48 posted on 06/17/2010 3:53:36 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: Colvin

“Yah, punch girls for jaywalking. That will go over well”

The female thug, that you want to call a girl, was not punched for jay walking. She was punched for her thug behavior in physically interfering with a policemen doing his duty. He had every justification for what he did.


49 posted on 06/17/2010 3:57:00 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly

2 thugs don’t make it right does it?It goes to prove that law officers have become thugs/caveman for even a petty offense such as jaywalking “tell a Newyorker that”.I’m tired of seeing people put up with this BS in Amerika.If he did this to your wife or daughter you may have a different view.I’d say the cop is a hothead/loose cannon that needs to be fired for losing his cool as a public servant.The people don’t need hotheads in the the public domain with an ax to grind for petty offenses who mau have had a bad hair day.


50 posted on 06/17/2010 4:25:40 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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