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Who Died And Made BP King Of The Gulf Of Mexico? (Prepare To Get Really Angry!)
The Economic Collapse Blog ^ | June 18, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 06/18/2010 9:31:10 AM PDT by lbryce

There is one question that I would really like an answer to. Who died and made BP king of the Gulf of Mexico? In recent weeks, BP has almost seemed more interested in keeping the American people away from the oil spill than in actually cleaning it up. Journalists are being pushed around and denied access, disaster workers are being intimidated and abused and now BP has even go so far as to hire an army of private mercenaries to enforce their will along the Gulf coast. Are we suddenly living in occupied Iraq? How in the world did a foreign oil company get the right to start pointing guns at the American people? The last time I checked, BP did not own the Gulf of Mexico and did not have the right to tell the American people where they can and cannot go. The truth is that BP could have avoided all of this by running an open, honest and transparent operation from the start. They could have welcomed help from all sources, they could have tried to be open with the media, and they could have tried to be fair with the volunteers and rescue workers. But instead BP has been conducting this whole thing as if we are living in a totalitarian dictatorship and they are the dictators.

Over the last several weeks, members of the mainstream media attempting to cover the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico have been yelled at, harassed, kicked off public beaches and threatened with arrest. The Obama administration keeps promising "to improve media access", but so far their promises haven't seemed to make much difference. In fact, a recent AP report detailed several recent highly disturbing incidents of journalist intimidation....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: americahater; bp; evacuation; evacuationrumors; obama; obamalaise; oilspill
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It's not just the oil that is the problem. The chemical dispersants that BP is using in the Gulf are even more toxic than the oil. In fact, because it is so extremely toxic, the UK's Marine Management Organization has completely banned Corexit 9500, so if there was a major oil spill in the North Sea, BP would not be able to use it.

But the Obama administration has allowed BP to dump over a million gallons of Corexit 9500, Corexit 9527 and other highly toxic dispersants into the Gulf of Mexico.
Meanwhile, the "oil volcano" on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico continues to pump out a nightmarish amount of oil every single day. BP is even admitting that oil is escaping from the leak at such high pressure that if they try to cap it the entire well may blow.

So this crisis may keep getting worse for months....

The ObaMalaise just keeps rolling along, spreading wider, deeper, bigger...

1 posted on 06/18/2010 9:31:11 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce
The Company that makes Corexit is a Soros subsidiary. Does this explain anything?
2 posted on 06/18/2010 9:32:47 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: lbryce

I saw yesterday that general aviation flights over the coast are being denied unless you are part of the cleanup.


3 posted on 06/18/2010 9:33:29 AM PDT by marron
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To: US Navy Vet

Yeah, He’s America-Hater #2.


4 posted on 06/18/2010 9:34:03 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: lbryce

BP bought the Gulf of Mexico for $20 Billion dollars. They should be able to dictate who and when people have access.


5 posted on 06/18/2010 9:34:04 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: lbryce
BP is not King of the Gulf.

Obama is in charge. He's taken full responsibility. He's right on top of this. He's fully engaged.

You don't like how it's going? You have a problem with dispersants? Take it up with the Destructive Force currently occupying the White House.

6 posted on 06/18/2010 9:35:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: lbryce
BP is under threat of criminal proceedings. Do you really think they are going to give the government or the main stream press any more ammo to prosecute them? I would not. the hearings were a joke. They wanted the BP chief to say more. I would not either.
7 posted on 06/18/2010 9:35:21 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: marron

I’ve heard rumors that the entire gulf coast will be evacuated because the air coming in off the water will be completely toxic.

Are we ready to fire this idiot of a president yet?


8 posted on 06/18/2010 9:36:54 AM PDT by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: lbryce

Well he didn’t die, but der Fuhrer 0bamao made BP King of the Gulf of Mexico through the indifference and incompetence of his regime. They failed to adequately enforce regulations (don’t blame W - they had 18 months!) and after the accident, 0bamao was only interested in his golf game until uproar from the “little people” forced him to go to the Gulf.


9 posted on 06/18/2010 9:37:05 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The 0bama regime represents an "Clear and Present Danger" to the US - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: lbryce
Obama is king of the ocean not BP. Don't believe it, just ask him.
10 posted on 06/18/2010 9:37:13 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: nagdt
Are we ready to fire this idiot of a president yet?

Been ready since Day One!
(Though I still doubt that he is president)

11 posted on 06/18/2010 9:40:05 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The 0bama regime represents an "Clear and Present Danger" to the US - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: AngieGal

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12 posted on 06/18/2010 9:44:03 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: lbryce
Who Died And Made BP King Of The Gulf Of Mexico?

Who Died And Made BP BO King Of The Gulf Of Mexico?!

That arrogant little twit is channeling Garfield Goose! (I.e., thinks he's "King of the United States", for those of you who didn't grow up on Chicago TV.) Which makes me wonder: who do you suppose is the Puppet Master who has his hand up BO's rear?

13 posted on 06/18/2010 9:45:49 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: Nevermore

S O R O S


14 posted on 06/18/2010 9:48:00 AM PDT by evad (SHUT IT DOWN!!!)
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To: LetsRok

$20 Billion was just a down payment

and BP has absolutely no say over how it is disbursed and to whom - chump change to a spending machine like obama- who will approve with one man- any and all claims under $500K

the extorters will be back in 6 months or less to up the ante

Just standard business practice for the corrupt


15 posted on 06/18/2010 9:50:38 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: nagdt

“I’ve heard rumors that the entire gulf coast will be evacuated because the air coming in off the water will be completely toxic.”

They won’t have a choice when methane levels start to cause sickness...

http://www.methanegasdetectors.com/info/common-symptoms-of-methane-gas-poisoning/


16 posted on 06/18/2010 9:51:05 AM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: lbryce

17 posted on 06/18/2010 9:53:59 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: US Navy Vet

I understand the Al Gore is part owner in that company also.


18 posted on 06/18/2010 9:55:01 AM PDT by RC2
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To: lbryce

are being pushed around and denied access, disaster workers are being intimidated and abused and now BP has even go so far as to hire an army of private mercenaries to enforce their will along the Gulf coast’-—

Obama directing BP since day one.


19 posted on 06/18/2010 9:56:16 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Freddd

The media sued during Katrina to get access.

Strangely they just don’t seem to care with Obama oil..


20 posted on 06/18/2010 9:57:00 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Freddd

“the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.’-
Barack Hussein Obama


21 posted on 06/18/2010 9:58:06 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: US Navy Vet

“The Company that makes Corexit is a Soros subsidiary. Does this explain anything?”

explains everything!!


22 posted on 06/18/2010 10:00:28 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: lbryce; infidel29
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(Thanks infidel29!)

23 posted on 06/18/2010 10:01:49 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: lbryce
The chemical dispersants that BP is using in the Gulf are even more toxic than the oil

That is a lie!

Prompt deployment of Nalco COREXIT® oil spill dispersants is one very effective and proven method of minimizing the impact of a spill on the environment. When the COREXIT dispersants are deployed on the spilled oil, the oil is broken up into tiny bio-degradable droplets that immediately sink below the surface where they continue to disperse and bio-degrade.

Corexit contains six primary ingredients. Examples of everyday products with specific ingredients in common with COREXIT 9500 include:

• One ingredient is used as a wetting agent in dry gelatin, beverage mixtures, and fruit juice drinks.

• A second ingredient is used in a brand-name dry skin cream and also in a body shampoo.

• A third ingredient is found in a popular brand of baby bath liquid.

• A fourth ingredient is found extensively in cosmetics and is also used as a surface-active agent and emulsifier for agents used in food contact.

• A fifth ingredient is used by a major supplier of brand name household cleaning products for "soap scum" removal.

• A sixth ingredient is used in hand creams and lotions, odorless paints and stain blockers.

It is basically oil-eating bacteria speeding bio-degradation of the oil.

24 posted on 06/18/2010 10:03:18 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: lbryce
A VILLAGE IN KENYA IS MISSING ITS IDIOT
25 posted on 06/18/2010 10:03:21 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: lbryce

The real money is in the use of dispersants.
There is a company called NALCO. They make water purification systems and chemical dispersants.
NALCO is based in Chicago with subsidiaries in Brazil, Russia, India, China and Indonesia.
NALCO is associated with UChicago Argonne program. UChicago Argonne received $164 million dollars in stimulus funds this past year. UChicago Argonne just added two new executives to their roster. One from NALCO. The other from the Ill. Dept of Educaution.
If you dig a little deeper you will find NALCO is also associated with Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire.
Warren Buffet /Hathaway Berkshire increased their holdings in NALCO just last November. (Timing is everything).
The dispersant chemical is known as Corexit. What it does is hold the oil below the water’s surface. It is supposed to break up the spill into smaller pools. It is toxic and banned in Europe.
NALCO says they are using older and newer versions of Corexit in the Gulf.. (Why would you need a newer version, if the old one was fine?)
There is big money and even bigger players in this scam. While they are letting the oil blow wide open into the Gulf, the stakes and profit rise.
The Dolphins, Whales, Manatees, Sea Turtles and fish suffocate and die. The coastal regions, salt marshes, tourist attractions and the shore front properties are being destroyed, possibly permanently.The air quality is diminished. The Gulf of Mexico fishing industry is decimated.
All to create a need for their expensive and extremely profitable poison.

‘This is NALCO:
http://www.nalco.com/index.htm
Goldman Sachs was part of a three-pronged group that purchased NALCO:
http://bit.ly/8Z3Ai6
Buffett’s Bet On Water, NALCO (NLC is trade code):
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3095068
‘Blackstone, Apollo and Goldman Sachs to acquire Ondeo NALCO’ (COREXIT 9500):
http://bit.ly/bVHQkR
The Milken Institute - Leon Black of Apollo Management LLC (i.e. NALCO): http://bit.ly/vJLz
BP plc, Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs, NALCO Holding Co., Halliburton Co:
http://yhoo.it/amEhiS
The Chicago, NALCO, Arab, Blago, Rezko Connection:
http://bit.ly/d88x31
Obama’s Economic Adviser Buffet,= Berkshire Hathaway Inc - NALCO Holding Co:
http://bit.ly/ati3AL
NALCO and the China Connection:
http://bit.ly/daKYmk
‘NALCO eyes doubling of sales in China:
http://bit.ly/bi7BZw
Berkshire the second-largest shareholder in NALCO:
http://bit.ly/cvHDAl
Company Profile ‘NALCO Holding Co:
http://bit.ly/9qeTkd
‘96 “partnerships with enviro products thru 2010”! Attendees: Gore M. Strong & NALCO:
http://is.gd/ctV7p
Gore/Strong EPA Conference ‘96:
http://is.gd/ctVfN

NALCO is associated with Exelon and Com Ed. (Ayers’ father was CEO of Com Ed.)
Com Ed hired a CEO form NALCO and a director from Dept of EDU. Isn’t B. Ayers w/Edu?
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=22533
Pay close attention to UChicago Argonne. They control Fermi, as well as other majopr energy industry connections.
http://research.uchicago.edu/uc_anl_centers.shtml
ComED & Exelon are connected to NALCO through UChicago Argonne.
All areconnected to Fermilab. That stimulus millions to Lamont is funding all these connections.
They even hire each other’s executives.
ComEd names 2 new outside directors
(Crain’s) — Commonwealth Edison Co. has appointed two new outside board members as the utility continues to seek to distance itself from parent Exelon Corp. in the ongoing controversy in Springfield over future electric rates.
Added to the ComEd board are Edward (Ted) J. Mooney, former CEO of Nalco Holding Co. in Naperville, and Jesse H. Ruiz, partner in the law firm of Gardner Carton & Douglas LLP and chairman of Illinois State Board of Education. The appointments were effective Oct. 16.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=22533
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This is NALCO India. It’s in Brazil, Russia & China.= BRIC.There is also a plant in Indonesia. (There are a couple articles at this link.
http://www.topnews.in/companies/nalco
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A Few Words About Nalco
Please note the date of article Nov. 2009.(Timing is everything).
“It is no wonder why Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway is the biggest shareholder.”
http://dailyreckoning.com/a-few-words-about-nalco/

Follow The Data, Forget Conspiracy Theory

1. In the weeks prior to the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe BP CEO Tony Hayward sold 1/3 of his BP shares, using the money to pay off his family mansion.
2. During those same few weeks Goldman Sachs shorted 44% of its BP holdings, while Wachovia and UBS sold 98% and 97% of their BP holdings.
3. CEO Tony Hayward made $4.5 million last year = $12,000 A DAY – even since the Deepwater explosion
4. Deepwater Horizon oil rig owner, Transocean, made a whopping $270 million off the explosion and oil leak.
5. Part of BP’s cost-benefit analysis for determining how well to build employee housing included a document comparing employees to the Three Little Pigs, ultimately determining that dead employees were worth more to the company than what the more expensive and safer housing would cost.
6. President Obama just appointed his THIRD Monsanto executive to a top Food/Ag position in US Government. If you want a better understanding of how Monsanto operates, rent the documentary Food, Inc.
7. Carl Casale, Director at Nalco (manufacturer of Corexit) is also EVP/CFO of Monsanto.
8. Rodney Chase, another Director at Nalco was previously Deputy Group Chief Executive at BP.
9. Despite much more efficient alternatives, BP defied EPA’s order to find a more suitable solution than Corexit.
10. While they could have been testing this better alternative, BP and USCG were ignoring it.
11. Scientific data points to the long-term ineffectiveness and damage to overall ecosystem from use of dispersants, demonstrating cases where nature fared far better when oil was left untreated by chemical dispersants.
12. Reams of data testify to the toxic nature of Corexit, including it’s hazardous impact on both wildlife and humans. And still clean up workers are not being provided masks or critical safety equipment for working around it. And The EPA has done no more than a mere suggestion that BP use alternative remedies. Google it. Too many links out there documenting this to list.
13. Corexit has NEVER been used in this quantity, at these depths. This is unprecedented – a giant science experiment we allow BP to conduct in our back yards

http://cleanthegulfnow.org/archives/follow-the-data-forget-conspiracy-theory/


26 posted on 06/18/2010 10:05:35 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marron
I saw yesterday that general aviation flights over the coast are being denied unless you are part of the cleanup.

Fox News reporters were allowed to ride along in the planes of cleanup crews. Of course general aviation flights are denied while people are trying to clean up the mess.

Having witnessed the rudeness of many 'reporters' I would tell them to shove it too.

27 posted on 06/18/2010 10:06:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: 70th Division

It is become evident that the relationship between the execs of BP and the crypto-Marxists of Obama’s administration is a co-dependency relationship.


28 posted on 06/18/2010 10:06:26 AM PDT by bvw
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

I doubt that they are missing him at all...............


29 posted on 06/18/2010 10:08:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: lbryce

Well, Obama is making Brazil’s Petrobras the King of Deep Water Drilling: $10 Billion of taxpayer funding for Petrobras’ deep-drilling expansion.

And Soros is the largest single investor in Petrobras (apart from the Brazilian government).

http://stumpedagain.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/obama-drills-deep/


30 posted on 06/18/2010 10:12:28 AM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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To: kcvl

How much stock do you own? THAT’S BS!BP talking points and lies!

BP came under criticism weeks ago for using Corexit, a highly toxic chemical oil dispersant, in huge amounts to try to break up the oil gushing from its well in the Gulf of Mexico. Some scientists argued that there are less-toxic, more effective dispersants available. Other scientists argued we should use no dispersants, as the damage from the dispersants may do more harm than good. As we reported May 20,2010, Corexit is carcinogenic, mutagenic, and highly toxic, and scientists are concerned about its effect on marine life. Corexit is banned in Great Britain.
In response to these criticisms, British Petroleum claimed that these alternatives are not available in the necessary quantities. This argument seemed to have been blown out of the water when one of the cable news networks showed thousands of gallons of an alternate dispersant sitting in the sun in Houston, Texas, just waiting to be shipped to the Gulf. The manufacturer’s president expressed frustration, saying his company could be manufacturing large quantities every day if only BP would take delivery of the dispersant and order more.
Finally, on May 19, 2010, the EPA ordered BP to stop using Corexit and switch to a less-toxic dispersant. Instead of changing dispersants, however, the company simply refused and told the EPA that Sea Brat No. 4, the only alternative dispersant available in sufficient quantities, contains “potential endocrine disruptors” that “may persist in the environment for a period of yeaSome have questioned whether BP’s decision to use Corexit stems from a business relationship with the chemical’s manufacturer. A former BP executive sits on the board of Nalco, the manufacturer of Corexit.

COREXIT, NALCO, ALGORE, SOROS, APOLLO, MAURICE STRONG, GOLDMAN SACHS...... GULF OIL SPILL... AND WHY IT’S NOT BEING STOPPED. FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!
http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/corexit-nalco-algore-soros

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit Toxicity and alternatives
The safety data sheet states “The potential human hazard is: High.”
According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused “respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders” in people.[7] According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[11] However, the oil from Deepwater Horizon is not believed to be typical Louisiana crude.
Reportedly Corexit is toxic to marine life and helps keep spilled oil submerged. The quantities used in the Gulf will create ‘unprecedented underwater damage to organisms.’[12] 9527A is also hazardous for humans: ‘May cause injury to red blood cells (hemolysis), kidney or the liver’.[13]
Alternative dispersants which are approved by the EPA are listed on the National Contingency Plan Product Schedule[14] and rated for their toxicity

According to Ronald Tjeerdema, chair of the Department of Environmental Toxicology at UC Davis’ College of Agricultural & Environmental Sciences, who has been studying dispersants since the ’90s, “The industry typically only stockpiles one or two of these things,” and while Corexit 9527 has been the dispersant of choice for a long time, in recent years, Corexit 9500 has gained prominence. Yet Nalco has done no toxicity studies on these industry-dominating products now in heavy use in the Gulf?
They do appear to have toxic properties. Both data sheets include the warning “human health hazards: acute.” The MSDS for Corexit 9527A states that “excessive exposure may cause central nervous system effects, nausea, vomiting, anesthetic or narcotic effects,” and “repeated or excessive exposure to butoxyethanol [an active ingredient] may cause injury to red blood cells (hemolysis), kidney or the liver.”
It adds: “Prolonged and/or repeated exposure through inhalation or extensive skin contact with EGBE [butoxyethanol] may result in damage to the blood and kidneys.”

http://www.1001seafoods.com/fishing-information/fishing-information/chemical-dispersants-being-used-in-gulf-potentially-toxic/


31 posted on 06/18/2010 10:14:38 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red Badger
"I doubt that they are missing him at all..............."

Good point!

32 posted on 06/18/2010 10:15:51 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: lbryce

I like the one that goes like this...

BP scuttled the well on purpose to create a 3-4 day
oil slick that was never intended to make it to shore.

It was to be a great excuse to stop all offshore
drilling in the US. Then they could move all the
drilling rigs down to Brazil to get a quicker start
on the Soros/Petrobras project for China.

But, BP is much better at drilling and pumping than
special effects and this stunt-thing got out of hand.

They really needed James Cameron’s help when they
planned this exercise. He knows how to stage believable
special effects. OOPS!


33 posted on 06/18/2010 10:21:23 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Rebuke, Renounce, Repeal, Repeat,...)
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To: mojitojoe
BP came under criticism weeks ago for using Corexit, a highly toxic chemical oil dispersant, in huge amounts to try to break up the oil gushing from its well in the Gulf of Mexico. Some scientists argued that there are less-toxic, more effective dispersants available

You are nuts. You are using liberal leftist talking points.

The criticism came from LIBERALS and Obama's own government 'scientist'.

You are also connecting George Soros to this is like connecting any investor in BP to the oil spill.

It is none of your business what I invest in. It doesn't mean I can't have an opinion (after researching) about the solvent they were using. You might try that yourself.

34 posted on 06/18/2010 10:22:46 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: cookcounty

Could you imagine it this was a huge Republican donor and Bush was in the White House? There would be non-stop inquiries and television coverage of the links between them.


35 posted on 06/18/2010 10:24:22 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: US Navy Vet
"The Company that makes Corexit is a Soros subsidiary. Does this explain anything? "

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, so I did a little digging on the Soros Conspiracy.

Corexit is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Nalco Holdings, a Naperville IL holding and investment company. Nalco is a publicly traded company, as such, any significant holdings by an individual or company must be publicly disclosed. As of 3/31/2010 (their last public filing) George Soros owned 8,800 shares of Nalco. That is less than .01% of all shares outstanding with a value at current price of appx $198K. Not a small amount of money to me or probably you, but to George Soros, it's not even a day's lunch money.

By comparison, Warren Buffett, as of the same date, owned 9,000,000 shares of Nalco. That is a significant amount of money, even to Buffett. But still, even Buffett - who may be the single largest non-officer shareholder - only owns appx 6.5% of all outstanding shares.

Simply put, there may be plenty of legitimate George Soros conspiracy theories out there, but this certainly isn't one of them. When you are worth as much money as he is, it's possible, even likely, that you own at least a small piece of 50-70% of all publicly traded companies.

36 posted on 06/18/2010 10:26:10 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: lbryce

I wonder about how that dispersant will work once it comes down as rain on our land? Many storms originate in the Gulf and travel up into the Ohio valley and beyond. What will this to to our food?


37 posted on 06/18/2010 10:26:30 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: OldDeckHand
Exactly!

Someone started that rumor and others just started repeating it without any facts to back it up. I am certainly no George Soros fan but it makes people look like conspiracy nuts connecting him to this.

38 posted on 06/18/2010 10:33:52 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: chris_bdba
"I wonder about how that dispersant will work once it comes down as rain on our land?"

How is that going to happen? Are you familiar with the scientific principles of evaporation? When it rains, does it rain salt-water or does it rain fresh-water? Yep, it's fresh-water. Why? Because dissolved solids (NaCl in this instance) aren't atmospherically transferred in the evaporation process.

While it's possible some of these chemicals will atmospherically evaporate, it's unlikely to be in a quantity that is even measurable.

39 posted on 06/18/2010 10:34:49 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Gabrial
You are funny!
40 posted on 06/18/2010 10:34:58 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: kcvl
"Someone started that rumor and others just started repeating it without any facts to back it up."

I don't know if you're old enough to remember the John Birch Society of the early 60's, but this is EXACTLY the phenomenon that happened with that group. Thankfully, intellectual conservatives like William F Buckley fought against that insanity and the ludicrous conspiracy theories of the Birchers, and purged them from the movement.

For whatever reason, we've seen the same conspiracy theory phenomenon take root again.

41 posted on 06/18/2010 10:39:09 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: kcvl; chris37

Your post was ludicrous!!! As if the items you listed have warnings like Corexit does! Run and buy some more Nalco shares and keep on spewing Nalco’s talking points. You think shampoos, Dawn, face creams and cosmetics have these warnings? GET REAL! You are spreading propaganda and lies.
The list includes 1,2-Propanediol ; 2-butoxy-ethanol ; 2-sulfo-Butanedioic acid, 1,4-bis(2-ethylhexyl) ester, sodium salt (1:1); Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate; Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivss.; Sorbitan, tri-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs; 2-Propanol, 1-(2-butoxy-1-methylethoxy)- ; and Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light.

Nalco, the company which manufactures COREXIT, responded by posting a list of “common day-to-day” uses of the chemicals in question. That list includes skin cream, body shampoo, emulsifier in juice, Baby bath, mouth wash, face lotion, emulsifier in food, Body/Face lotion, tanning lotions, Wetting agent in cosmetic products, gelatin, beverages, Household cleaning products, Air fresheners.

The independent watchdog group OMBWatch cites the New Jersey Department of Health to point out possible dangers of one of the the ingredients. The document indicates 2-butoxy-ethanol: “may be absorbed through the skin; should be handled as a CARCINOGEN—WITH EXTREME CAUTION; can irritate the skin and eyes with possible eye damage; can irritate the nose and throat; can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain. can cause headache, dizziness, lightheadedness, and passing out and may damage the liver and kidneys.”

The dispersant is widely considered more dangerous to human health than the oil itself, and several clean-up workers exposed to the dispersant have been reported as coming down with health problems
http://www.examiner.com/x-46544-New-Orleans-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m6d11-EPA-finally-relases-COREXIT-ingredient-list

http://www.epa.gov/bpspill/dispersants.html#chemicals

Are any human health effects expected as a result of using the dispersants?
People working with dispersants are strongly advised to use a half face filter mask or an air-supplied breathing apparatus to protect their noses, throats, and lungs, and they should wear nitrile or PVC gloves, coveralls, boots, and chemical splash goggles to keep dispersants off skin and out of their eyes.

How will we know the future and total effects on marine life of dispersant use?
It is too early in the process to know what the scope of the natural resource damage will be.

Apart from marine life, has the Unified Command been able to make an assessment on the effects of the dispersant on the environment?
The harm or toxicity of dispersed oil in the environment is generally associated with the oil rather than with the dispersant alone. However, use of dispersants breaks up a slick of oil on the surface into smaller droplets that can go beneath the surface. When applied on the surface before spills reach the coastline, dispersants will potentially decrease exposure for surface-dwelling organisms (such as sea birds) and intertidal species (such as mangroves and salt marshes), while increasing exposure to a smaller population of aquatic life found deeper in the water. It is unknown if dispersed oil has toxic implications to the human population because bioaccumulation through the food chain has not been evaluated.

Surface Use of Dispersants in the Response to the BP Spill:
The authorization given to BP to use the dispersant on oil present on the surface of the water included specific conditions to ensure the protection of the environment and the health of residents in affected areas. At this time, , EPA and the Coast Guard issued a directive requiring BP to decrease overall volume of dispersant by 75 percent and to cease use of dispersant on the surface of the water altogether unless provided prior written authorization from the Coast Guard. The Unified Command will continue to monitor for the effects of this dispersant on the environment and we reserve the right to discontinue its use.

Have dispersants ever been used this much before?
While dispersants have been used in previous oil spills, this is the largest application of dispersants at an oil spill response in the United States.


42 posted on 06/18/2010 10:41:43 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kcvl
The chemical dispersants that BP is using in the Gulf are even more toxic than the oil

That is a lie!

Hey, you don't want to argue against an anti-Obama conspiracy theory, do you? With so many valid criticisms of the Obama Administration, it is baffling why its detractors would resort to highly dubious and inherently unprovable conspiracy theories. I am not a water treatment specialist, but about twenty years of experience in the hydrocarbon process industry informs me that Nalco is a world leader in water treatment chemicals. It has more expertise in the water treatment than the most-knowledgeable thousand bloggers combined.

I have an even better, second-level conspiracy theory. The whole Nalco theory is so preposterous and subject to ridicule by the Left that it must be a creation of the Left intended to discredit Obama's detractors.

43 posted on 06/18/2010 10:41:46 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: US Navy Vet

Corexit was invented by Exxon, and then the patent sold to NALCO, Inc. NALCO is a publicly traded worldwide company specializing in water treatment, industrial and urban public sources, as well as providing chemicals approved by the EPA for use in ANY oil spill cleanup. The EPA has approved this agent for over 20 years as non-toxic. The dispersant breaks up crude into small components which are then attacked in open ocean by naturally occurring oliophilic bacteria which digest the oil. MSNBC first reported, incorrectly that this is toxic.


44 posted on 06/18/2010 10:42:41 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: kcvl

You are using liberal leftist talking points.

BS, YOU ARE USING NALCO talking points. I see you post no links to back yours up, I provided many links. You can’t because your link goes right to Nalco, what a shocker. AH


45 posted on 06/18/2010 10:43:22 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mojitojoe
You are posting that crap from a liberal website. The dispersant certainly is no more harmful than the damn oil!

People are getting sick from the OIL not the dispersant. You try breathing OIL for a few weeks and see how you feel.

46 posted on 06/18/2010 10:44:15 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: lbryce

You may be misinformed. To date, 0BAMA has denied offers of assistance in the oil cleanup from 13 countries . . . . including those with the skimmers we need to suck that stuff up.

That’s not a BP call, it’s Obama following Rahm Emmanual’s advice and taking advantage of a crisis. The longer he can keep the heat on BP, the less attention is being paid to what he and his myrmidons are up to.

I have seen no evidence that reporters are being kept out of the area since they all seem to grab a boat out of Venice, LA, with ease and ride out near the oil spill. I think there is more at work here than BP - I think zero is up to even worse things to delay BP getting the well capped and the spill stopped.


47 posted on 06/18/2010 10:46:27 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: bvw

Did you notice that MMS was absent from the hearings. Now these are the people that gave BP the permits, (which are many,a long process, and heavily regulated). Of course the government will not admit to any wrong doing. They inspected the well several times and gave them an award. So who is going to hold the government responsible?


48 posted on 06/18/2010 10:46:39 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: kcvl

LMAO. EPA is a liberal website? You are a real stooge. Post your link, prove your case and posting a link to what Nalco says doesn’t count.


49 posted on 06/18/2010 10:48:00 AM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mojitojoe

If you don’t believe me then why don’t you read the posts above. They have a little more knowledge in the solvent industry than you obviously do.

You seem to think all solvent companies are evil and want to kill us all. They are in the business to CLEAN UP OIL and make a profit. DUH!

No conspiracy (unfortunately for you).


50 posted on 06/18/2010 10:48:57 AM PDT by kcvl
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