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Hiker killed by bear near Yellowstone east gate
Gazette ^ | June 18, 2010 | RUFFIN PREVOST

Posted on 06/18/2010 2:51:49 PM PDT by george76

CODY — Authorities are investigating the circumstances surrounding the fatal mauling Thursday of a Shoshone National Forest cabin owner by a grizzly bear. The incident took place at a site where a bear had been captured and released earlier Thursday.

Erwin Frank Evert, 70, of Cody, was reported missing by his wife to a member of the Interagency Grizzly Bear Study Team that had been conducting research in the Kitty Creek drainage, about 10 miles east of Yellowstone National Park.

Researchers had earlier trapped and released an adult male grizzly in the area...

A study team member returned to the capture site and found Evert's body...

Steward said that Evert, who was not armed and was not carrying bear spray, apparently wandered into the capture site sometime after the bear had been released.

Chris Servheen, grizzly bear coordinator for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service... said he was unaware of what other public notifications, if any, were routinely made about bear capture efforts.

"The people doing this are highly trained professionals who follow very detailed protocols. One of the most important protocols is public safety,"

Some cabin owners have said they were unaware of research work being done in the area, and questioned whether wildlife and land management agencies were communicating effectively with the public about such activities.

(Excerpt) Read more at billingsgazette.com ...


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1 posted on 06/18/2010 2:51:49 PM PDT by george76
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Steward said that Evert, who was not armed and was not carrying bear spray, apparently wandered into the capture site sometime after the bear had been released.

"Wandered into" the area? He was a hiker, one would speculate he was on a trail...what part of that combo is hard to grasp?

I'm not sure on policy, but it'd be nice if they posted a note at the trail head if they've recently released a bear on the trail.

2 posted on 06/18/2010 2:54:32 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: george76

Sounds like this did not ‘have to happen’. . .had their been communication.


3 posted on 06/18/2010 2:54:53 PM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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To: george76

I need glasses I really saw “ Hitler killed by Bear “


4 posted on 06/18/2010 2:55:10 PM PDT by omega4179 (www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: george76
Some cabin owners have said they were unaware of research work being done in the area, and questioned whether wildlife and land management agencies were communicating effectively with the public about such activities.

'Course not. They're guvment, doncha know. They don't gotta communicate with us here small people...

5 posted on 06/18/2010 2:55:11 PM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: omega4179

On first glace I thought “didn’t he already shoot himself in his bunker a while back?”


6 posted on 06/18/2010 2:56:34 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: highlander_UW

regardless of whether there was a sign posted or not, when your in these parks you should know better. Mother Nature is merciless and if you forget simple precautions that could save your life tragedies can happen.


7 posted on 06/18/2010 2:57:36 PM PDT by eak3
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To: cricket

my one pup Toby caught & killed a chipmunk today. Not sure he & friend Josy would do as well with bear protecting me along they way... Guess I might just need to consider breaking the law & CCW when I am in the wild (yes, I do it all the time)


8 posted on 06/18/2010 2:57:42 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: george76

Hey, reporter, how about filling in the blanks?

Was the bear captured and released in the same area as the wording suggests or was he a ‘trouble’ bear captured in an area close to tourists and released up by the cabins area?

Were the cabins area residents apprised of it?

And I wonder if there’s ever been a study of bears that, though not trouble bears, have been captured, ‘tested’, collared and released - as to a new animosity to man?


9 posted on 06/18/2010 2:58:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: george76

“”The people doing this are highly trained professionals who follow very detailed protocols. One of the most important protocols is public safety,”

Obviously their protocol is no good.


10 posted on 06/18/2010 2:58:24 PM PDT by devere
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To: SpaceBar

Well Hitler should have known to not feed them, carry bear spray etc.


11 posted on 06/18/2010 2:58:31 PM PDT by omega4179 (www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: george76

CODY — Authorities are investigating the circumstances surrounding the fatal mauling Thursday of a Shoshone National Forest cabin owner by a grizzly bear. The incident took place at a site where a bear had been captured and released earlier Thursday.
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Well, if we are gonna do this with illegal immigrants, we might as well do it with bears.

And when the results are the same? Don't be surprized.

12 posted on 06/18/2010 2:58:46 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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13 posted on 06/18/2010 2:59:53 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: george76

Let’s try that headline again:
“Grizzly bear, having been trapped, tormented, and released by do-good naturalists, takes revenge on first human it sees.”

Not the bear’s fault, not the hiker’s fault.


14 posted on 06/18/2010 3:00:01 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: highlander_UW
all bears must be banned at once!
15 posted on 06/18/2010 3:00:46 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (trust no one under thirty.)
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To: george76
Researchers had earlier trapped and released an adult male grizzly in the area...

Let's see. A grown male bear smells, hears and sees humans. He feels a sharp pain in his belly and then suddenly feels very sleepy. He awakens to smell human scents all over him, he is groggy, likely hungry, and has a stupid human smelling collar on his neck that he can't get off. Suddenly an old human comes walking down his trail.

What, oh what, will the bear do?

16 posted on 06/18/2010 3:01:20 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: george76
Researchers had earlier trapped and released an adult male grizzly in the area...

And he was pissed...

17 posted on 06/18/2010 3:02:24 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Born to Conserve

hee hee - you said the same thing I did - only better.


18 posted on 06/18/2010 3:02:41 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: george76
It's a bear. It kills things and eats them, craps in the woods, hibernates and makes little bears. That's it. Yogi Bear is not reality.


19 posted on 06/18/2010 3:02:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

20 posted on 06/18/2010 3:03:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Richard Kimball

“Forget about the pick-a-nick basket, I’m going for the whole thing.”


21 posted on 06/18/2010 3:03:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: omega4179

Bear spray: 00 buckshot in a 3” 12 ga. cartridge followed by a 3” 12 ga. slug fired from the smooth bore of your choice.

Don’t try to shoot a bear with a sidearm unless it’s .44 mag or bigger.


22 posted on 06/18/2010 3:05:29 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: highlander_UW

Sad. The bear was being.....bear.


23 posted on 06/18/2010 3:05:54 PM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: proud_yank; jazusamo; GladesGuru; LucyT

Catch and release.

What could go wrong ?

/s


24 posted on 06/18/2010 3:05:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: highlander_UW
READ THE WHOLE FREAKING ARTICLE!!!

The dead guy LIVED there, and the Wildlife service dropped the bear nearby! On top of which, the dead guy wasn't told he had a new neighbor, since bears are the property of the Feds, and he would no doubt have been felonized if he had shot the thing.

It would obviously be your fault if the Feds put an alligator in your swimming pool, and you weren't smart enough to expect it.

25 posted on 06/18/2010 3:07:08 PM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: george76

Yep, bad deal all around. Just finished reading it.

At the same time the guy had a cabin in the area and had no protection, not smart IMO.


26 posted on 06/18/2010 3:08:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: dfwgator

One big reason why I’ve never gone camping and never will.


27 posted on 06/18/2010 3:09:17 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yep, I like staying on top of the food chain.


28 posted on 06/18/2010 3:09:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: george76
Servheen said that interagency partners including the Wyoming Game and Fish and Shoshone National Forest personnel are aware of researchers' work in the area, and that signs are posted in areas where bears are being captured.

He said he was unaware of what other public notifications, if any, were routinely made about bear capture efforts.

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"We want to make sure people don't walk into these places, so they place signs lower down on the trail" warning people to avoid the area, he said.

Servheen said "it would be impossible to enter this area" without noticing warning signs.

Important information.

29 posted on 06/18/2010 3:10:58 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: george76

I hope the decedent’s last words were NOT “ I love you bear!”


30 posted on 06/18/2010 3:11:52 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: eak3
regardless of whether there was a sign posted or not, when your in these parks you should know better.

Of course that's true, but when there is a change in risk level and it's easy to post a notice it would be nice if they took the time to print one out and post it. In WA state the governor spent $10,000 of tax money to refinish a desk she uses to sign more taxes into laws. The cost of a page of paper and the printer ink wouldn't have been too much to hope for.

31 posted on 06/18/2010 3:13:44 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: dfwgator

Did you ever suspect that Mr. Ranger and Officer Dibble were the same person? Notice you never saw them together. Dittos for Mr. Peebles from Magilla Gorilla and Mr. Spacely.


32 posted on 06/18/2010 3:14:04 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: dfwgator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8

It’s not just the bears you have to watch out for. Sometimes the natives are looking for love from the visitors...


33 posted on 06/18/2010 3:15:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: george76
I suppose if is beyond any opportunity to investigate if there was criminal neglect in not posting signs on the trails and notifying the cabin owners? Naw, I know that is a rhetorical question.
34 posted on 06/18/2010 3:19:54 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: the invisib1e hand

Well, the bears used to be banned. I mean, they are grizzlies. Killed off in populated places for ‘bad behavior.’ But now they are protected. //rolling eyes//


35 posted on 06/18/2010 3:21:43 PM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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Chris Servheen, grizzly bear coordinator for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service...
said he was unaware of what other public notifications, if any,
were routinely made about bear capture efforts.

Hey, if a naive, foolish civilian wonders into our research area and
gets munched...more research for us Federal workers on bear behaviour!!!
(I’d add /SARC, but this episode sounds consistent with the attitude
of some Federal workers I know.)


36 posted on 06/18/2010 3:32:30 PM PDT by VOA
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well we obviously need about 500,000 new government employees to be hired to go around slapping warning labels on all these dangerous bears now.


37 posted on 06/18/2010 3:34:43 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Liberals are drooling buffoons backed by satanic goons.)
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I read a funny article a few years ago, written by a reporter from a large liberal newspaper who went up to Alaska to write an piece about what it was like to live up there.

One day, he was walking down a wide trail between some high ground cover, and two 9 year old kids came walking the other way. He chatted with them for a bit, and while he was talking, he noticed the kids were dressed in somewhat threadbare clothing. Not poverty, but not $250 sneakers, either. He thought about what it must be like for them to grow up there.

They didn’t look like they had a pot to piss in, and from what he could see, the entertainment opportunities were pretty scarce. While they talked the kids had tin cans with rocks in them which they threw at each other, kicked back and forth and basically tossed around.

He thought “Boy, what a difference. Down in New York, kids this age would be immersed in video games, the Internet, etc, but all these kids can do around here for entertainment is throw around cans filled with rocks. This was how they had to have fun, getting along with nothing.”

When he mentioned this to the kids, one of them looked at him like he was an idiot, and said “What are you talking about? These are our ‘bear cans’ that we use to let the bears know we are around. If my dad knew I went out without it, I’d get the belt for sure.” The other kid asked in astonishment “Don’t you have one? Where’s yours?”

When the guy said he didn’t have one, and asked if he could borrow one of theirs, they looked at him like he was crazy and said “No way!”


38 posted on 06/18/2010 3:41:30 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: george76

Sorry about the diverson there with the story. This is sad for this family...another case of the government do-gooders that don’t care about humans as long as Gaia is being taken care of.


39 posted on 06/18/2010 3:43:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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lol bear Pictures, Images and Photos
40 posted on 06/18/2010 3:43:07 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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BANG! BANG!

Oh, wait a minute...unarmed? Make that...

shoo, shoo...

41 posted on 06/18/2010 3:56:56 PM PDT by moovova
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A friend of mine used to work in a state agency that shared an office with the US Forest Service in Montana. He said the USFS workers, when others were not around, tended to be very “Bear good, tourist bad”. He also noticed most of the USFS employees had never spent much time hiking in grizzly country. They wanted to bring grizzlies back to places near large cities.

For grizzly country, I prefer to hike with a 30-30 minimum. Not much for concealment, but about the smallest thing I’d want in my hands if a bear charged. That assumes I couldn’t find a 375 H&H Magnum...


42 posted on 06/18/2010 4:08:48 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: DollyCali
something about judged by 12 rather than carried by 6...
43 posted on 06/18/2010 4:12:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: devere

I’ll have to reply to this later this evening.

Suffice it for now - ParcPersons are notoriously INCOMPETENTS! ! ! !

ParcMan “science persons” are active jokes.

Gotta go fight Miami traffic.


44 posted on 06/18/2010 4:21:00 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Newtoidaho

“we obviously need about 500,000 new government employees to be hired to go around slapping warning labels on all these dangerous bears now.”

Lets send the rats in congress and Lord 0haha and his thugs to lead and manage the census takers as they move into the next phase of getting a check from the government. Census taking should be over now. Let them put the warning lables on bear butts.


45 posted on 06/18/2010 4:21:55 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: george76

“Steward said that Evert, who was not armed and was not carrying bear spray, apparently wandered into the capture site sometime after the bear had been released.”

He has probably been wandering/hiking in that area for decades.


46 posted on 06/18/2010 4:23:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Newtoidaho
well we obviously need about 500,000 new government employees to be hired to go around slapping warning labels on all these dangerous bears now.

If they're all liberals, travel alone, and are unarmed, then I'm in favor of such a scheme.

47 posted on 06/18/2010 4:23:55 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: Chode

or eaten by one.


48 posted on 06/18/2010 4:24:44 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Protons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic.)
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To: Westbrook

My choice of smoothbore:

Saiga 12 with a 12 rn. mag.

I’d recommend 000 buck followed by a slug, followed by 000, etc.

The stick mag can handle 3” mag loads.

Ps Better to keep it to 10 rounds, including the chambered one, as hot 3” mag loads cause enough recoil to make the mag lip a risk, IMHO.


49 posted on 06/18/2010 4:25:01 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: george76

Prayers for Mr. Evert’s family and friends.


50 posted on 06/18/2010 4:28:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Socialism never works. But that never stops socialists from trying.)
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