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BP disaster started in February?
Hot Air ^ | June 19, 2010 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 06/19/2010 12:26:08 PM PDT by kara2008

Until this week, the general impression of the Deepwater Horizon blowout in the Gulf has been that the explosion took everyone by surprise, and that neither BP nor a dysfunctional MMS had any idea that the well had reached a critical stage. Two days ago, however, Bloomberg reported that both BP and MMS were well aware of the high risk of a blowout at that particular well. BP and its subcontractor Transocean had in fact been fighting against a blowout for over two months, and MMS was well aware of the situation:

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bp; bpstock; deephorz; deepwaterhorizon; dsj; energy; failblog; gulf; gulfoilrig; kickass; obamafail; obamaskatrina; obozohusseinliar; offshore; oil; oilspill; oilspilltimeline; rigtimeline
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This reinforces the absolute incompetence of the federal government in their role of regulating and overseeing the rig’s design, safety and operations.

MMS utterly failed to regulate the safety of BP’s deep-water drilling operations. Where are those who signed off on this rig up until Feb…Mar…April…May???

They had plenty of forewarning to have skimmers, boom material, manpower, an action plan, etc standing by. Why weren’t BP and MMS prepared for the worst case scenario?

Also, Goldman Sachs and BP CEO Tony Hayward sold a bunch of BP stock during the 1st Quarter, seemingly, “unaware” of the then thought impending disaster. This indicates otherwise.

1 posted on 06/19/2010 12:26:09 PM PDT by kara2008
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To: kara2008
March 10, 2009 – BP submits an Initial Exploration Plan to MMS for its Macondo well

April 6, 2009 – Obama Administration issues permit for Macondo well

February 2, 2010 – Obama proposes cuts to Coast Guard budget

March 31, 2010 – Obama proposes expanded offshore drilling

April 20, 2010 – TRANSOCEAN DEEPWATER HORIZON explodes, killing 11


House committee on transportation and infrastructure timeline
2 posted on 06/19/2010 12:28:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: kara2008; LucyT; SunkenCiv; CondoleezzaProtege

Yes, this makes it much more understandable why Hayward dumped such a large amount of BP shares of stock.


3 posted on 06/19/2010 12:30:24 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kara2008

The “official release” will contradict. Save this page. Watch it ‘evolve’.


4 posted on 06/19/2010 12:30:42 PM PDT by allmost
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To: cripplecreek

It’s all Bush’s fault.


5 posted on 06/19/2010 12:33:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: kara2008

Does anyone know how to remove this from Breaking news? I didn’t mean to post it under breaking!!!


6 posted on 06/19/2010 12:34:22 PM PDT by kara2008
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To: kara2008

I bumped it to breaking.


7 posted on 06/19/2010 12:35:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: kara2008

Hit abuse on your thread and ask the mod to change it.


8 posted on 06/19/2010 12:36:20 PM PDT by deport
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To: kara2008
From the article...

"BP didn’t exactly keep it a secret, either. They informed MMS of the problem, which apparently did nothing to intervene in a situation serious enough that a similar situation caused Exxon to shut down its well in 2006."

9 posted on 06/19/2010 12:37:38 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Jim Robinson

Obviously. lol


10 posted on 06/19/2010 12:38:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: allmost

This is already in the Federal Record.

There is an official transaction record of the insider selling. There is an official record of cuts to the CG.

There is no way to spin this. It is what it.


11 posted on 06/19/2010 12:39:24 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("If it takes a blood bath, let's get it over with." R. Reagan)
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To: hennie pennie
"Yes, this makes it much more understandable why Hayward dumped such a large amount of BP shares of stock."

Good point. When I first saw that report, I didn't think too much of it because executives sell company stock all the time, usually just to diversify their holdings. This report puts it in a whole new light.

12 posted on 06/19/2010 12:39:47 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: kara2008; potlatch; ntnychik
Today Rahm (who likes to get naked and poke naked men with his finger) criticized Hayward attending a yachting event.
Where was Rahm when Obama was golfing, fundraising, golfing, fundraising, doing the concert scene, rinse/repeat.


13 posted on 06/19/2010 12:40:40 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: kara2008
Why weren’t BP and MMS prepared for the worst case scenario?

Because they were getting out of the OIL DRILLING business, and into the new and very profitable GREEN ENERGY business.

The guy who headed the MMS for 12 years had quit/was let go so Obama could put in one of his 'insiders' who would waive the rules for BP so they could finish the drill, and turn it over to oil producer. It was costing them big bucks every day in penalties because they were behind schedule.

Obama in his 'insiders' had been working with BP on crafting the new CAP AND TRADE legislation, and they wanted BP off the well before the bill went in for a vote.

Mother Nature had other ideas, however.

14 posted on 06/19/2010 12:41:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL. (I thought I screwed up.) Thanks Jim!


15 posted on 06/19/2010 12:42:20 PM PDT by kara2008
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To: worst-case scenario; Qwackertoo
I've been following your informative interesting postings in another messagethread, and hope you have the time and inclination to comment on this article, too.

Thanks.

HP

16 posted on 06/19/2010 12:43:21 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: kara2008
Obama's proposed solution to leaking oil.


17 posted on 06/19/2010 12:44:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: kara2008

So MMSknew there were big problems and allowed them to continue? To me this places the blame more on what the federal government did not do to keep this from happening.


18 posted on 06/19/2010 12:47:05 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: cripplecreek
Unlikely Decisions Set Stage for BP Disaster

This particular well was snake bitten from the beginning. As you pointed out the permit was taken back in 09. Drilling began Oct. 09 with another drilling platform which was damaged by a hurricane in the gulf. That platform had to be removed for repairs.

Deepwater Horizon finished another major deep find for BP in late 09 [Tiber] and they moved that platform in to drill this [Macondo] well. Once started in Jan. 10 they were down about 13,000 ft had a problem down how with some tool, had to cement it in, come back up hole and start again at a slant. That attempt finally got the the reservior they were drilling far and then the other problems began culminating in the blowout/spill.

19 posted on 06/19/2010 12:47:06 PM PDT by deport
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To: cripplecreek

If this new timeline is correct, it certainly puts Obama’s announcement to open up drilling in a new (and much more sinister) light.

He probably thought he’d win the undying loyalty of the Drill, Baby, Drill crowd and that they’d stick with him even after he “reluctantly” had to reverse his decision in face of the “unacceptable” risks that he expected to be revealed once the almost-certain gusher at Deepwater began. Apparently he failed to consider that the DBD crowd would be appalled at his unnecessary 6 month moratorium on deep water drilling and that they’d be equally appalled at his inept handling of the entire situation. If his thinking really ran along the lines suggested above, it would be a classic example of being too clever by half.


20 posted on 06/19/2010 12:47:12 PM PDT by DrC
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To: cripplecreek
March 31, 2010 – Obama proposes expanded offshore drilling

April 20, 2010 – TRANSOCEAN DEEPWATER HORIZON explodes, killing 11

I'm starting to wonder if the O admin was rushing for this well to get oil up in time for O's big offshore drilling expansion speech.
In order for this to happen in a timely manner, shortcuts have to been taken.
But then, it led to a disaster beyond anyones control, and the O can't handle it.
That must explain his lack of responsiveness to this disaster.

Sorry, O, things never work out as planned when you rush it.

21 posted on 06/19/2010 12:47:20 PM PDT by chemicalman (Barack H. Obama a.k.a. the tar ball baby.)
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To: kara2008

I think this is a cover story and a distraction to avoid a real investigation; get the public to accept a baseline story and everyone one can move away from a thorough forensic investigation to begin with. Second, this does not explain why this regime has stalled, interfered and deliberately avoided what is needed to minimize impact of drifting oil slicks, which they have had the opportunity to prepare against. Unless the goal has been to displace a large section of populace and economy making the area so depressed which benefits “friends of government.”


22 posted on 06/19/2010 12:49:01 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: kara2008

I suspect Tony might be heading to jail.


23 posted on 06/19/2010 12:49:55 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: DrC

Freaky, dude. Must have been seperated at birth.


24 posted on 06/19/2010 12:50:29 PM PDT by chemicalman (Barack H. Obama a.k.a. the tar ball baby.)
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To: kara2008
This reinforces the absolute incompetence of the federal government in their role of regulating and overseeing the rig’s design, safety and operations.

The oil Industry does not need additional regulation as you advocate, but rather the industry players need to follow standard procedures.

Keep Your Government Out of My Industry

25 posted on 06/19/2010 12:51:16 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

*ping*


26 posted on 06/19/2010 12:53:15 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: reformedliberal
There is an official transaction record of the insider selling.

It would also be interesting to see a timeline of those shorting BP stock.

27 posted on 06/19/2010 12:58:06 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: UCANSEE2
Yes. BP, the corrupt politicians (BHO, Gore, etc), their Goldman/Fannie buddies, and the leftist groups (Joyce Foundation, Cows etc) stand to make trillions off of the $10 trillion CCX scam.
28 posted on 06/19/2010 1:00:10 PM PDT by kara2008
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To: kara2008

BP is one of the biggest players on the European climate exchange. The ECX is 50% owned by the CCX.


29 posted on 06/19/2010 1:02:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: kara2008

bookmark


30 posted on 06/19/2010 1:02:19 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: kara2008
Anyone familiar with oil and gas drilling and completion knows that large volumes of gas don't show up at the surface without a lot of advance warning. Gas would have to travel up casing and the riser for something like five miles while mixed with drilling mud and sea water.

In addition to the sub surface blowout preventers there is a "diverter" system at the surface to keep gas from getting to the rig floor. The diverter is a low pressure closure of the riser so diverter lines can direct gas over the sides of the rig.

Human error, lack of attention, deliberate delays all could contribute to this problem. Failure of so many equipment items in early stages seems unlikely. After the rig explosion and sinking I wouldn't be surprised if conditions changed to the extent that nothing subsea performed as intended.

31 posted on 06/19/2010 1:02:38 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: chris_bdba
I suspect that they didn't understand the magnitude of the impending problem.
32 posted on 06/19/2010 1:04:21 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: trumandogz
I would NEVER EVER advocate more government regulation in any industry period!

This situation clearly illustrates how utterly INCOMPETENT the federal regulations and regulators are. I am outraged that MMS and the idiotic Obama administration/FEDS are NOT being held accountable for their sickening incompetence and negligence in the gulf.

Why was BP given passes on permits? Why were they given safety awards? Why hasn't the Jones act been suspended? Why has foreign assistance been turned away? Why are state efforts being delayed and thwarted? Where is the outrage against the so-called "expert" federal regulators?

33 posted on 06/19/2010 1:13:32 PM PDT by kara2008
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To: kara2008

This would explain the suspicious BP stock action by certain parties (such as Goldman Sucks and CEO Hayward) PRIOR to the blow out. They knew it would blow.


34 posted on 06/19/2010 1:20:58 PM PDT by SoCalConstitutionalist
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To: kara2008

Regulations mean nothing as on almost every rig or platform I have worked federal and state regulations are ignored as each one is exceeded.

Now, could you please cite for me the Federal Regulation that directed the BP engineers on the Deep Water Horizon to forgo standard procedures and replace the drilling fluids with seawater?

Until you are able to cite such a regulation or government directive, the entire weight of this disaster is the responsibility of BP.


35 posted on 06/19/2010 1:21:34 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: SunTzuWu

“MMS ... apparently did nothing to intervene”: maybe I’m not keeping up, but if BP sees danger, do they just keep dumbly plunging on until MMS intervenes?


36 posted on 06/19/2010 1:21:58 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: UCANSEE2

Absorbent and yellow and porous was he.

37 posted on 06/19/2010 1:23:18 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: hennie pennie

Bookmark.


38 posted on 06/19/2010 1:24:06 PM PDT by khnyny (Worst US environmental disaster EVER - BP Oil Spill in the Gulf - Obama's Fault!!!)
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To: kara2008; All

It's not the crime ... it's the cover-up.



39 posted on 06/19/2010 1:26:51 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: chris_bdba

“To me this places the blame more on what the federal government did not do to keep this from happening.”

What this indicates to me is the Fed ain’t run by concerned Americans, but by Chicago Thugs Inc. raping concerned Americans for profit.

It has become more and more apparent to this FReeper that...well my tagline says it all.


40 posted on 06/19/2010 1:27:14 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: kara2008

Good questions and I’m sure the MSM would not touch a single one with a 10’ pole!


41 posted on 06/19/2010 1:34:04 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: cripplecreek

This is a huge scam. I changed my tagline awhile back to reflect what I see is happening.


42 posted on 06/19/2010 1:34:05 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: kara2008

Cap and Trade will bring Trillions of dollars, and tremendous World power to the hands of the criminal cabal (of which IMO Obama is a major player) that designed this scam.

Obama is a major player in the CCX. What he is NOT doing in the gulf is just another crime.


43 posted on 06/19/2010 1:44:11 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Impressive photo of the WaxVac 400


44 posted on 06/19/2010 1:44:11 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: kara2008

I would suggest that if this information is true, the reasons for why worse case scenereo plans were not in place was so this administration could use the expected blow out for political advantage.


45 posted on 06/19/2010 1:59:23 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: frposty
MMS could have solicited the very best engineers in the industry. Instead, it sounds like no attempt was made other than crossing their fingers and hoping it didn’t blow. What's the point of having government regulators when they don't do anything?
46 posted on 06/19/2010 1:59:32 PM PDT by Carling (Remember November)
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To: rockinqsranch
You really can't take anything at face value anymore with all of the propaganda and deception going on right now. BP is voluntarily being used as the whipping boy to promote the underlying agenda. Can’t let a crisis go to waste you know.

Bloomberg is reporting that, from information submitted by BP to the Mining and Mineral Services (MMS), that BP was aware of cracks in the well at least since February, 2010.

BP has been at the forefront of lobbying for cap and trade legislation.

BP CEO Tony Hayward sold £1.4 million of his shares in BP weeks before the spill as reported by the Telegraph. Ironically, Goldman Sachs divested 44% of its shares in BP Oil during the first quarter of 2010. Could it be mere coincidence that the former chairman of BP, Peter Sutherland, is the current chairman of Goldman Sachs?

Right, nothing to see here, move along.

It's high time the American people wake up to the criminal element running this country and the world, who have puppets on BOTH sides of the aisle.

47 posted on 06/19/2010 2:00:58 PM PDT by SlaveNoMore
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To: kara2008

This is an excerpt from an email supposedly sent to ATS from a BP employee that’s interesting:

“All of us concerned BPers (yes, there are many) are talking that something or someone was at the bop and either deliberately caused the blowout or made a grave error that caused the bop to malfunction when the inevitable blowout happened.

Everyone here is talking about it but no one dare say anything to anyone even their families.

There’s also something happening about 100 miles southeast of the rig site with several navy and uscg ships. And Friday two serious looking guys arrive and started directing our sup. Apparently they showed Navy Intelligence ID when they arrived along with a dozen commando looking guys.”

The whole email is here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread583367/pg1

They can’t verify its source so they can’t call it real or fake.


48 posted on 06/19/2010 2:06:22 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: SlaveNoMore
Sorry, the Washington Examiner link regarding BP's lobbying efforts for Cap and Trade moved.

Here is the new link.

49 posted on 06/19/2010 2:06:25 PM PDT by SlaveNoMore
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To: SlaveNoMore

Excellent post. Thanks for your response.


50 posted on 06/19/2010 2:09:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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