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BP disaster started in February?
Hot Air ^ | June 19, 2010 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 06/19/2010 12:26:08 PM PDT by kara2008

Until this week, the general impression of the Deepwater Horizon blowout in the Gulf has been that the explosion took everyone by surprise, and that neither BP nor a dysfunctional MMS had any idea that the well had reached a critical stage. Two days ago, however, Bloomberg reported that both BP and MMS were well aware of the high risk of a blowout at that particular well. BP and its subcontractor Transocean had in fact been fighting against a blowout for over two months, and MMS was well aware of the situation:

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bp; bpstock; deephorz; deepwaterhorizon; dsj; energy; failblog; gulf; gulfoilrig; kickass; obamafail; obamaskatrina; obozohusseinliar; offshore; oil; oilspill; oilspilltimeline; rigtimeline
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To: potlatch; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; martin_fierro; ...

thanks, pot!

serious negligence on this administration’s part...either they kew it and ignored it or they didn’t know anything about it - which is worse?????


151 posted on 06/20/2010 4:54:45 PM PDT by bitt ( "Obama - He’s last year’s boy band." (steyn))
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To: bitt

Sounds like lots of folks knew about it well enough ahead . . . except for the poor blokes about to lose their lives.


153 posted on 06/20/2010 5:00:01 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: omega4412

And also compare it to a timeline of NALCO.


154 posted on 06/20/2010 5:11:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: SlaveNoMore; STARWISE; Liz; maggief
You really can't take anything at face value anymore with all of the propaganda and deception going on right now. BP is voluntarily being used as the whipping boy to promote the underlying agenda. Can’t let a crisis go to waste you know.
Bloomberg is reporting that, from information submitted by BP to the Mining and Mineral Services (MMS), that BP was aware of cracks in the well at least since February, 2010.

BP has been at the forefront of lobbying for cap and trade legislation.

BP CEO Tony Hayward sold £1.4 million of his shares in BP weeks before the spill as reported by the Telegraph. Ironically, Goldman Sachs divested 44% of its shares in BP Oil during the first quarter of 2010. Could it be mere coincidence that the former chairman of BP, Peter Sutherland, is the current chairman of Goldman Sachs?

and Goldman Sachs along with Soros, Buffet, Gore and Citi bought stock in NALCO who make the dispersant last November..

155 posted on 06/20/2010 5:17:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Star Traveler
I asked over six weeks ago if anyone had a list of the engineers and/or dead that worked on the rig. What is their background? Are any of them Amish? Still haven't gotten any answers....Then BO sent Holder down...which may actually be the right thing to do! I want the whole BP FamDamily investigated! and anyone else that was on that rig!

From family in the space industry I know that one screw in the right location, not tightened properly, can cause a rocket to explode, or an essential piece of an aircraft to loosen. Accidental or on Purpose...Did something like that happen...Who was responsible?

156 posted on 06/20/2010 6:37:12 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: bitt
“serious negligence on this administration’s part...either they knew it and ignored it or they didn’t know anything about it - which is worse?????”

So what does the media dwell on?

The BP executive going to see his yacht in a race.

Never mind that Obama does NOTHING.

Never mind that a barabque, parties and a vacation are more important. When he finally sobered up, he realized he had another opportunity to extort money from BP. BTW, we REJECT other countries with experience to help U.S.. Obama sat o his hands. It's pitiful and unacceptable.

157 posted on 06/20/2010 6:53:29 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: bitt; Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm to tired to think straight. And I have to get up early for work. But is sure looks like these reports show what gross negligience was practiced by all involved.
If anything. BP practiced poor safety concerns, engineering practices and in the reality poor management practices.
They gambled and lost big this time around. The MMS and the Coast Guard, EPA and every other fed org that was in the loop also must bear equal blame.
They all screwed the pouch big time. With that I am going to hit the rack shortly. Do have a great upcoming day.
158 posted on 06/20/2010 7:14:36 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


159 posted on 06/20/2010 9:43:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Cajun

I read on FR that some guy from the EPA ordered them to remove the mud and use seawater.


160 posted on 06/21/2010 2:29:16 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: kara2008

bumpety bump


161 posted on 06/21/2010 3:33:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: kara2008; All

FRANK PATTON

do some searching on this name- very interesting stuff
This was the MMS regulator in charge of signing off on the BP well safety

I missed seeing him before Congress, where the only name the press seems ot report is “Tony Hayward”

Interesting reading, in retrospect
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/updates_from_oil_rig_explosion.html

from Bloomberg
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-17/bp-struggled-with-cracks-in-gulf-well-as-early-as-february-documents-show.html


162 posted on 06/21/2010 3:46:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: nmh

FRANK PATTON MMS

do some searching and reading

“On March 10, BP executive Scherie Douglas e-mailed Frank Patton, the mineral service’s drilling engineer for the New Orleans district, telling him: “We’re in the midst of a well control situation”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-17/bp-struggled-with-cracks-in-gulf-well-as-early-as-february-documents-show.html

“Under scrutiny from officials in his own agency, the local Minerals Management Service engineer who approved BP’s application to drill under the DeepwaterHorizon admitted that he approved the blowout preventer that failed tostop the Gulf of Mexico oil spill without assurances that its last-ditch mechanism would work on the drill pipe the company was using.

Jason Mathews, an MMS official who sits on the six-member joint Coast Guard and MMS investigative board, questioned Frank Patton, the agency’s New Orleans District drilling engineer, about his approval ofBP’s drilling permit.

Mathews noted that MMS regulation 250.416(e)requires would-be drillers to submit proof that the blowout preventerthey are using to shut off the well will have enough power to shear adrill pipe in case of an emergency.

Those mechanisms on the 450-ton blowout preventer at the bottom ofthe seabed are called blind shear rams, a pair of high-pressure valvesand blades that are supposed to slice through a gushing drill pipe andclose off a well leak. But attempts to get those shear rams to operateon the well below the Deepwater Horizon have been unsuccessful sincethe April 20 disaster.

Patton testified he was not aware of any such requirement and never demands it from more than 100 applications his office reviews each year.

“I have never been told to look for this statement,” Patton said.The BP application had “no information on blind shear rams’ ability to shear the drill pipe used.”

“If they didn’t submit it, why did we approve it?” Mathews asked.

“That is one thing I don’t look for in my approval process,” Patton said. “I’ve never looked for that statement there.”

“Is this just you, or is this MMS-wide? “ Mathews persisted.

“I’m not sure,” Patton said sheepishly
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/updates_from_oil_rig_explosion.html


163 posted on 06/21/2010 3:51:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: kara2008

http://www.mms.gov/assets/Video/NEWVideo/FinalTranscript.pdf

moe interesting notes from MMS 2007

also apparently FRANK PATTON the MMS bureacrat who signed off on BP’s well safety plan and design - is an UNLICENSED
“engineer”
http://www.whistleblowersblog.org/2010/06/articles/whistleblowers-government-empl/the-role-of-federal-employee-whistleblowers-in-protecting-public-heath-and-safety/

FRAK PATTON, MMS Inspector- who NEVER VISITED A RIG to inspect a BOP he was in charge of approving
http://www.pakistannews.net/story/633951


164 posted on 06/21/2010 4:10:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: devere

Note that obama is trying to cover all the bases. He had the families of the victims to the wh. Probably reassured them that bp would pay. There will be no investigation unless some enterprising journalist steps up on what is probably one of the biggest political scandals of our time.


165 posted on 06/21/2010 4:54:01 AM PDT by jersey117
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KaPow Bump


166 posted on 06/21/2010 7:44:08 AM PDT by XHogPilot (A thief might rob you, but politicians can rob your family for countless generations.)
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To: chris_bdba; driftdiver
So MMSknew there were big problems and allowed them to continue? To me this places the blame more on what the federal government did not do to keep this from happening.

Agreed!
167 posted on 06/21/2010 8:20:46 AM PDT by Canedawg (The West is the best.)
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To: kara2008

Bump this, and I’ll keep bumping. Isn’t it amazing how the stories which are #8 on the earthquake scale go unreported.


168 posted on 06/21/2010 8:26:07 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: hennie pennie

Cuba and North Korea were not involved in this disaster in any way.

If this administration wants to prevent future oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico, all they have to do is revoke BP’s leases and kick BP out of the gulf. There’s absolutely no need for this moratorium on deepwater drilling. That’s only going to cut US oil production in the rest of this decade and make us even more dependent on imported oil. The moratorium on deepwater drilling should be lifted immediately before we lose the best deepwater rigs to Brazil and West Africa.

To become less dependent on imported oil, the US should also start a program to support the use of compressed natural gas in diesel engines instead of diesel fuel, in situations where this replacement makes sense.


169 posted on 06/21/2010 8:56:49 AM PDT by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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Cuba preparing for possible arrival of oil spill - Yahoo! News ---------------------------------------------- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100615/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_gulf_oil_spill_cuba
By ANDREA RODRIGUEZ, Associated Press Writer
Andrea Rodriguez, Associated Press Writer
Tue Jun 15, 2:33 pm ET

HAVANA - - Cuba's civil defense chief said Tuesday that authorities are preparing coastal residents for the oil spill fouling the Gulf......

170 posted on 06/21/2010 9:00:24 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; Bigun

Have been out of pocket all weekend - did y’all see this?


171 posted on 06/21/2010 9:47:38 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Xenalyte
Xena, I saw it but from the very first day's we knew there had been well control problems up the hole. Many wells need repeated squeeze jobs and I just don't see much different here, save the inaction of MMS.
172 posted on 06/21/2010 10:01:37 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon ("I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!" ~ MNJohnnie, FReeper)
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To: kara2008

As always, follow the money


173 posted on 06/21/2010 10:28:37 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: SoCalConstitutionalist

Wrong. It does not “explain the suspicious action.” Selling stock in and of itself is not suspicious. What it does is RENDER the action suspicious.


174 posted on 06/21/2010 11:23:29 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Epitomizes the whole:

“The best made plans of mice and men,
Most often go awry,
Leaving them in pain and agony”

He’s currently suffering pain and agony in his popularity ratings.


175 posted on 06/21/2010 11:31:14 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: kara2008

What did the Obama administration know, and when did they know it?


176 posted on 06/21/2010 11:35:45 AM PDT by XHogPilot (A thief might rob you, but politicians can rob your family for countless generations.)
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To: hennie pennie

Selling stock? Nope, not illegal. I do it all the time.


177 posted on 06/21/2010 11:42:57 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; Allegra; humblegunner

PING to a good look at if MiaT were only restricted to posting letters instead of pictures.


178 posted on 06/21/2010 11:48:15 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Star Traveler

Point of order: with more than 3,300 workers worldwide, Anadarko is hardly a small company.


179 posted on 06/21/2010 11:49:59 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: SierraWasp

>>I just LOVE your “islamabama” reference and wonder why he’s not living in Islamabad, instead of Warshington, D.C. <<

I think the “why” part is pretty simple ... he’s president of the United States, not Pakistan.


180 posted on 06/21/2010 11:51:19 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: kara2008

This is an earthquake story, and I haven’t heard it from the MSM yet. Somebody call Newsbusters.


181 posted on 06/21/2010 12:29:17 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

[perfect]

Thank you Bob!


182 posted on 06/21/2010 6:05:52 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Natural Born 54

[Wow, that’s really something!]

Thank you SO much!!


183 posted on 06/21/2010 6:09:07 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: bitt

They are at fault either way, don’t know what the ‘H’ they are doing.

I’m very concerned about this oil spillage. Grew up by Galveston and live 25 miles from the bay now. The beach, sun, sand, sealife and birds are a part of me and I’m so afraid it’s all being destroyed.


184 posted on 06/21/2010 6:19:23 PM PDT by potlatch (*snip*)
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To: hennie pennie; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the pings!


185 posted on 06/22/2010 4:58:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: bitt

Thanks bitt!


186 posted on 06/22/2010 5:01:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: kara2008

Bankrupt the NyLons and send them packing back across the pond where they belong... AGAIN.

And send their Kenyan King along with them.


187 posted on 06/22/2010 5:13:48 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: jackv

Ping to post 114.


188 posted on 08/06/2010 4:31:55 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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