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New Mexico v. Val Kilmer: Payback Time
wsj ^ | June 21, 2010 | STEPHANIE SIMON

Posted on 06/21/2010 3:24:50 PM PDT by I still care

Bygones are not always bygone amid the limestone cliffs and piñon groves of northern New Mexico.

When actor Val Kilmer recently applied for permits to turn his 6,000-acre ranch outside Santa Fe into an upscale bed-and-breakfast, several of his neighbors protested.

Alleged trash talk is holding up a permit Val Kilmer wants for his ranch.

They weren't worried about traffic or noise or the prospect of intruding tourists. They were incensed about comments attributed to Mr. Kilmer in magazine articles dating to 2003 and 2005. And they didn't want him to get his way on the ranch unless he apologized.

"That's all he has to do, come and apologize," said Jose Garcia, who runs horses on a 50-acre ranch next to Mr. Kilmer's. "We're not intimidated by him."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aclu; hollywood; karma; valkilmer
I think this is hysterically funny. Classic liberal leftist who disparages red country is taken out for a lesson by the neighbors. You know, those pathetic types that cling to their guns and religion.

Top of google trends right now.

1 posted on 06/21/2010 3:24:51 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care

“An apology isn’t good enough. He’s insulted and hurt too many people,” said Abran Tapia, a veteran and local resident. “People here want him out of New Mexico.”
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There’s probably half a million or so non english speaking folks I’d like to see out of new mexico and into old mexico.


2 posted on 06/21/2010 3:33:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: I still care

Interesting how quiet all the parties involved are suddenly quiet after the ACLU entered into the discussion...


3 posted on 06/21/2010 3:33:40 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: I still care

Hi there!
I'm old.
And I'm fat.


4 posted on 06/21/2010 3:36:23 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: I still care

Have you seen recent pictures of him? He’s a real porker now.


5 posted on 06/21/2010 3:37:07 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: I still care

I’ll have to find out where his ranch is, and take a few pictures, preferably with Val in them, just to aggravate him. It is good to know he takes responsibility for himself by carrying a gun. Maybe he should move to Obamao’s Chicago where it is peaceful.


6 posted on 06/21/2010 3:39:51 PM PDT by pallis
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To: I still care

I read this earlier and the thing that really stuck out for me was that he said that he knew more about the Vietnam War than the soldiers did since they could not get into college and were losers. Made me want to smack him.


7 posted on 06/21/2010 3:43:23 PM PDT by MamaB (C)
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To: billorites

Predictable that he'd irritate people there.

8 posted on 06/21/2010 3:51:00 PM PDT by x
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To: pallis

He is kind of a jerk and doper but I do not think he is a bad guy. He was fairly talented but he appears to have screwed up his career. The one person there in NM seems to be very “intolerant” in oh so tolerant Santa Fe.


9 posted on 06/21/2010 3:51:37 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: I still care
Kilmers movie Conspiracy was awful.

First of all it was cheap, cheap, cheap. It looked like he filmed it on his own ranch and made the sets himself.

Second, it was liberal overkill. Also, it ripped off Billy Jack, which wasn't any good to begin with.

If Val had made a movie about Blackwater-type miltary contractors up to no good, or a movie about Minuteman-types turning on Latinos he just might have gotten away with it, for whatever the cheap and lousy movie was worth.

But making the Blackwater-type corporate paramilitaries into anti-Latino ethnic cleansers was going too far even for Hollywood. If there really are corporate conspirators out there, they wouldn't have any scruples about exploiting cheap labor and wouldn't be tied down by borders.

The irony is of course that Kilmer doesn't get along with the locals out there and gave them grief himself.

10 posted on 06/21/2010 3:54:04 PM PDT by x
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To: billorites
Val Kilmer ... one of the long lost Huckabee boys?


11 posted on 06/21/2010 3:55:55 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: x

I retract my comments that he is not a bad guy. He is spewing propaganda to get his dirt cheap movie funded. Harrison Ford did one like not long ago about noble illegals and evil white males.


12 posted on 06/21/2010 4:00:09 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I think one of those Huckabee boys ate Chris Christie.


13 posted on 06/21/2010 4:03:30 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Memo to the Huckabees:

Stripes are not slimming.

14 posted on 06/21/2010 4:05:50 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: I still care; All
This shouldn't be about what Val Kilmer said, or how fat he is, or how bad his movies have been recently.

It is a simple conception that a person's right to conduct business doesn't depend on how well some people like or how intensely others dislike him.

It sounds to me like some folks have decided a little butt-kissing is due to soothe their bruised egos. They should get over it. Van Kilmer is the one who has to live with himself, so let them take satisfaction in that.

15 posted on 06/21/2010 4:13:09 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (BORDERS, LAWS and LANGUAGE)
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To: billorites
Memo to the Huckabees:
Stripes are not slimming.

Especially when it takes about 50 rows of them
to cross you horizontally.

16 posted on 06/21/2010 4:14:20 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

That, and the fact that you need a dam ‘permit’ to run a business.


17 posted on 06/21/2010 4:16:42 PM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: billorites
Separated at birth from Chaz Bono? Image and video hosting by TinyPic
18 posted on 06/21/2010 4:16:57 PM PDT by peggybac
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Hey, don't be hatin'

Chaz was awesome in all those Magnum PI episodes...remember....


19 posted on 06/21/2010 4:33:17 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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To: peggybac

I am slim and trim compared to him. I’m 6’3 250-sh and need to drop at least 20 more.


20 posted on 06/21/2010 5:05:21 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: billorites

Iceman will need extra afterburner to get in the air it looks like.
Wow..


21 posted on 06/21/2010 5:55:29 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

It’s just a little etiquette lesson from the people that create the lovely local culture that he wants to make money off of. He’s getting some schooling.


22 posted on 06/21/2010 6:26:17 PM PDT by donna (Yah Mo B There - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HbbM-FG8lQ)
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To: I still care
I didn't even know who Val Kilmer was until I Googled him. Turns out he was one of the pilots in Top Gun with Tom Cruise. I remember him as being tall (although I'm tall standing next to Cruise) , thin and very good looking guy. Wow has he let it go. Now we all age and none of us look at good as we did at 25, but the difference with this guy is striking. Maybe he's one of those guys who won't go under the knife. I admire that. Anyway I could care less about his problems in New Mexico. I need at least one frivolous post a day and this is it.
23 posted on 06/21/2010 7:43:18 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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Oh My Goodness. I was still picturing him in the beach volleyball scene in Top Gun...


24 posted on 06/21/2010 8:09:55 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

To me its about the elite making a ton of money off “the little people” and at the same time holding them in scorn.

If it wasn’t for plain folk (the type that like to see movies like Top Gun) he would be working in an office somewhere.

I’ll agree with you that his right to conduct business shouldn’t have anything to do with what people think. But remember, he probably voted for the type of people who made these zoning laws. I wouldn’t have.


25 posted on 06/21/2010 9:19:33 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: truthguy
I liked him in the movies Salton Sea and Red Planet.

I hate him in real life.

26 posted on 06/22/2010 7:00:06 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: I Buried My Guns

He was great in Top Secret!


27 posted on 06/22/2010 7:01:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Top Secret! was good if you like cows singing ‘Ach, Du Lieber Augustine’. With phoney moving lips like from the ‘50s.


28 posted on 06/22/2010 10:33:04 AM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (BORDERS, LAWS and LANGUAGE)
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Skeet Surfin’...
Skeet Surfin’...
If everybody had a 12 gauge
With a sufboard too.
You see em shootin and surfin’
From here to Malibu.
Because it’s totally bitchin’
Ridin waves and blastin’ pigeons.
And its a’ neat shootin’ skeet when youre ridin’ on the heavies all day.

First Wave (shoot shoot) Don’t get tired. Second Wave (shoot shoot) Aim higher. Third Wave (shoot shoot) Pull it and fire.
Skeet Surfin’ (it’s all right)

Waxin’ down our surfboards
And loadin’ up our traps.
Tell the teacher we’re shootin’
And never comin’ back.

I’ve got a gun rack in my Chevy
For when the surf and the flak get heavy.
And we’ll have fun with our guns until the lifeguard takes our ammo away.

First wave (shoot shoot)
Don’t get tired.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Aim higher.
Third Wave (shoot shoot)
Pull it and fire.

Skeet Surfin’ (it’s all right)

First Wave (shoot shoot)
Man what a ‘natch.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Pullin’ that trap.
Third Wave (shoot shoot)
How was that?

Sharing sunsets with my favorite girl,
When we shoot the curl we really shoot the curl.

First wave (shoot shoot)
Don’t get tired.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Aim higher.
Third Wave (shoot shoot)
Pull it and fire.

Skeet Surfin’

First Wave (shoot shoot)
Man what a ‘natch.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Pullin’ that trap.
Third Wave Wave (shoot shoot)
How was that?

I wish they all could be double-barrel,
Wish they all could be double barrel guns.

Skeet surfin’ can’t you see?
Do you wanna come along with me?


29 posted on 06/22/2010 10:35:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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