New Mexico v. Val Kilmer: Payback Time

wsj ^ | June 21, 2010 | STEPHANIE SIMON

[I still care]

Bygones are not always bygone amid the limestone cliffs and piñon groves of northern New Mexico.

When actor Val Kilmer recently applied for permits to turn his 6,000-acre ranch outside Santa Fe into an upscale bed-and-breakfast, several of his neighbors protested.

Alleged trash talk is holding up a permit Val Kilmer wants for his ranch.

They weren't worried about traffic or noise or the prospect of intruding tourists. They were incensed about comments attributed to Mr. Kilmer in magazine articles dating to 2003 and 2005. And they didn't want him to get his way on the ranch unless he apologized.

"That's all he has to do, come and apologize," said Jose Garcia, who runs horses on a 50-acre ranch next to Mr. Kilmer's. "We're not intimidated by him."

[I still care]

I think this is hysterically funny. Classic liberal leftist who disparages red country is taken out for a lesson by the neighbors. You know, those pathetic types that cling to their guns and religion.

Top of google trends right now.

[mamelukesabre]

“An apology isn’t good enough. He’s insulted and hurt too many people,” said Abran Tapia, a veteran and local resident. “People here want him out of New Mexico.”
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There’s probably half a million or so non english speaking folks I’d like to see out of new mexico and into old mexico.

[NYTexan]

Interesting how quiet all the parties involved are suddenly quiet after the ACLU entered into the discussion...

[billorites]

Hi there!
I'm old.
And I'm fat.

[Trust but Verify]

Have you seen recent pictures of him? He’s a real porker now.

[pallis]

I’ll have to find out where his ranch is, and take a few pictures, preferably with Val in them, just to aggravate him. It is good to know he takes responsibility for himself by carrying a gun. Maybe he should move to Obamao’s Chicago where it is peaceful.

[MamaB]

I read this earlier and the thing that really stuck out for me was that he said that he knew more about the Vietnam War than the soldiers did since they could not get into college and were losers. Made me want to smack him.

[x]

Predictable that he'd irritate people there.

[Frantzie]

He is kind of a jerk and doper but I do not think he is a bad guy. He was fairly talented but he appears to have screwed up his career. The one person there in NM seems to be very “intolerant” in oh so tolerant Santa Fe.

[x]

Kilmers movie Conspiracy was awful.

First of all it was cheap, cheap, cheap. It looked like he filmed it on his own ranch and made the sets himself.

Second, it was liberal overkill. Also, it ripped off Billy Jack, which wasn't any good to begin with.

If Val had made a movie about Blackwater-type miltary contractors up to no good, or a movie about Minuteman-types turning on Latinos he just might have gotten away with it, for whatever the cheap and lousy movie was worth.

But making the Blackwater-type corporate paramilitaries into anti-Latino ethnic cleansers was going too far even for Hollywood. If there really are corporate conspirators out there, they wouldn't have any scruples about exploiting cheap labor and wouldn't be tied down by borders.

The irony is of course that Kilmer doesn't get along with the locals out there and gave them grief himself.

[Servant of the Cross]

Val Kilmer ... one of the long lost Huckabee boys?

[Frantzie]

I retract my comments that he is not a bad guy. He is spewing propaganda to get his dirt cheap movie funded. Harrison Ford did one like not long ago about noble illegals and evil white males.

[billorites]

I think one of those Huckabee boys ate Chris Christie.

[billorites]

Memo to the Huckabees:

Stripes are not slimming.

[ARepublicanForAllReasons]

This shouldn't be about what Val Kilmer said, or how fat he is, or how bad his movies have been recently.

It is a simple conception that a person's right to conduct business doesn't depend on how well some people like or how intensely others dislike him.

It sounds to me like some folks have decided a little butt-kissing is due to soothe their bruised egos. They should get over it. Van Kilmer is the one who has to live with himself, so let them take satisfaction in that.

[CrazyIvan]

Memo to the Huckabees:
Stripes are not slimming.

Especially when it takes about 50 rows of them
to cross you horizontally.

[Palter]

That, and the fact that you need a dam ‘permit’ to run a business.

[peggybac]

Separated at birth from Chaz Bono?

[Mac from Cleveland]

Hey, don't be hatin'

Chaz was awesome in all those Magnum PI episodes...remember....

[wally_bert]

I am slim and trim compared to him. I’m 6’3 250-sh and need to drop at least 20 more.

[HereInTheHeartland]

Iceman will need extra afterburner to get in the air it looks like.
Wow..

[donna]

It’s just a little etiquette lesson from the people that create the lovely local culture that he wants to make money off of. He’s getting some schooling.

[truthguy]

I didn't even know who Val Kilmer was until I Googled him. Turns out he was one of the pilots in Top Gun with Tom Cruise. I remember him as being tall (although I'm tall standing next to Cruise) , thin and very good looking guy. Wow has he let it go. Now we all age and none of us look at good as we did at 25, but the difference with this guy is striking. Maybe he's one of those guys who won't go under the knife. I admire that. Anyway I could care less about his problems in New Mexico. I need at least one frivolous post a day and this is it.

[goldfinch]

Oh My Goodness. I was still picturing him in the beach volleyball scene in Top Gun...

[I still care]

To me its about the elite making a ton of money off “the little people” and at the same time holding them in scorn.

If it wasn’t for plain folk (the type that like to see movies like Top Gun) he would be working in an office somewhere.

I’ll agree with you that his right to conduct business shouldn’t have anything to do with what people think. But remember, he probably voted for the type of people who made these zoning laws. I wouldn’t have.

[I Buried My Guns]

I liked him in the movies Salton Sea and Red Planet.

I hate him in real life.

[dfwgator]

He was great in Top Secret!

[ARepublicanForAllReasons]

Top Secret! was good if you like cows singing ‘Ach, Du Lieber Augustine’. With phoney moving lips like from the ‘50s.

[dfwgator]

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Skeet Surfin’...
If everybody had a 12 gauge
With a sufboard too.
You see em shootin and surfin’
From here to Malibu.
Because it’s totally bitchin’
Ridin waves and blastin’ pigeons.
And its a’ neat shootin’ skeet when youre ridin’ on the heavies all day.

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Skeet Surfin’ (it’s all right)

Waxin’ down our surfboards
And loadin’ up our traps.
Tell the teacher we’re shootin’
And never comin’ back.

I’ve got a gun rack in my Chevy
For when the surf and the flak get heavy.
And we’ll have fun with our guns until the lifeguard takes our ammo away.

First wave (shoot shoot)
Don’t get tired.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Aim higher.
Third Wave (shoot shoot)
Pull it and fire.

Skeet Surfin’ (it’s all right)

First Wave (shoot shoot)
Man what a ‘natch.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Pullin’ that trap.
Third Wave (shoot shoot)
How was that?

Sharing sunsets with my favorite girl,
When we shoot the curl we really shoot the curl.

First wave (shoot shoot)
Don’t get tired.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Aim higher.
Third Wave (shoot shoot)
Pull it and fire.

Skeet Surfin’

First Wave (shoot shoot)
Man what a ‘natch.
Second Wave (shoot shoot)
Pullin’ that trap.
Third Wave Wave (shoot shoot)
How was that?

I wish they all could be double-barrel,
Wish they all could be double barrel guns.

Skeet surfin’ can’t you see?
Do you wanna come along with me?